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Posted by: childhoodtwo.7095

childhoodtwo.7095

Title says it all i dont want it to be nerfer to hell but i want some counter play to it right now it brings just way to much over all other classess discuss.

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Posted by: Curunen.8729

Curunen.8729

Remove portal and moa – watch all mesmers disappear instantly.

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Posted by: Asrat.2645

Asrat.2645

Dont worry. If they do their homework this time, you will get nerfed, but everything else as well. And you will only have some unfair skills tuned down, not get beheaded like other parts of the current meta hopefully do.

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Posted by: Belial.9350

Belial.9350

Remove portal and moa – watch all mesmers disappear instantly.

Nah you can’t remove portal, it actually takes a brain to use that properly. Remove the double block and double moa.

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Posted by: Maxodon.5243

Maxodon.5243

Yes, condi Mesmer is strong right now but not stronger than Revenant, Scrapper, Reaper or Tempest. They don’t stand above everyone else, people just hate Mesmer more than other classes or have given up hope that Anet will ever nerf Revenant or Scrapper to the extent that they aren’t amongst the strongest meta builds in the game anymore.

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Posted by: AivenPrimus.9184

AivenPrimus.9184

Correction,
All Condi builds (or Condi damage in general) is rather overpowered.

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Posted by: geekilo.8512

geekilo.8512

Correction,
All Condi builds (or Condi damage in general) is rather overpowered.

+1 there’s barely any counter play to condi build

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Posted by: MithranArkanere.8957

MithranArkanere.8957

Remove portal and moa – watch all mesmers disappear instantly.

Portal is always annoying. It lets people do things like sneaking people into Keeps or letting people skip jumping puzzle, or basically stay in a ‘quantum state’ between two capture points where you won’t know where the mesmer and any of their allies will end until the portal ends.

I’d rather have it work more like the ‘return to activation location’ teleports necromancers and thieves have, then at least it will only work for the mesmers themselves.

Moa only has one problem: It triggers on target. Being a signet, since most signet animations look the same, it’s harder to avoid than something so powerful should. Even if it mean reducing its recharge and making it affect 5 targets in exchange, Polymorph should have a better warning. Like an area that takes 1-2 seconds to charge up then pulse the effect on anyone that stays in the area. For example an empty circle is drawn on the floor, and then filled with a purple ethereal effect. When the circle is full, it snaps a purple dome like a trap. And anyone inside gets polymorphed.

SUGGEST-A-TRON says:
PAY—ONCE—UNLOCKS—ARE—ALWAYS—BETTER.
No exceptions!

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Posted by: Ravenmoon.5318

Ravenmoon.5318

It’s funny because mesmer became fotm without any buffs in the past few months. Infact they were a bit nerfed.

What’s happening actually is that condi can’t be countered, especially with class stacking. The moment you cleanse (which is the only counterplay, e.g. condis are unaffected by armor/toughness/blocks/invulns) you get the condi stacks right back up

Or a lot sooner than your typical condi cleanse cooldown.

Meanwhile the skills that apply conditions deal decent damage.

ANet should either nerf those to the ground and accept that they are broken in theory and in practice or add some actual counterplay to condis, be it using environment or skills (e.g. modify skills to cleanse a lot more condis a lot more frequently)

Either way, condis are not fun.

P.S: The least you could do is grey out the part of the healthpool that is going to be lost to conditions.

Chill needs to be looked at, again. You kittened it up when you buffed it the last time. Fix it.

P.P.S: Writing this while fishing in BDO relaxingly.

(edited by Ravenmoon.5318)

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Posted by: Curunen.8729

Curunen.8729

Remove portal and moa – watch all mesmers disappear instantly.

Nah you can’t remove portal, it actually takes a brain to use that properly. Remove the double block and double moa.

It’s good portal takes a brain to use.

But I believe if portal (or moa) didn’t exist, no one would bring mesmers on their team over other classes.

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Posted by: Azukas.1426

Azukas.1426

Mesmer right now isn’t where it was last season. Thank god.

What we are seeing is the typical HoT power creep here that needs to be nerfed in general. Also condi needs to be looked into as well. They are to easily spammed and lack proper excitement for viewers

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Posted by: Loop.8106

Loop.8106

If they made it so that you can actually jump while in Moa form, aswell as maybe increase the animation tells of Moa. Mesmer would be in a great spot. I do however want power shatter back.

Optimise [OP]

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Posted by: Alex Shatter.7956

Alex Shatter.7956

they were a bit nerfed.

a bit?

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Posted by: Ravenmoon.5318

Ravenmoon.5318

they were a bit nerfed.

a bit?

Let’s not complain or ANet would nerf it like the thief. And boost the auto-attack afterwards as a fix to the nerf pls man