Guild Wars 2

26th of February

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/february-2013/

and

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/upcoming-changes-to-pvp-tournaments/

Summary:

• New PvP map – Spirit Watch – secondary mechanic – capture the orb.
• Individual and team’s aggregate PvP rating – no info if it’s hidden and only used for matchmaking and whether any ladders come with it (probably not).
• No Custom Arenas

Discuss. I’m surprised with the lack of more content, especially because it comes late on 26th. I was really expecting more. No info on balance though.

this info may prove useful during today’s SOTG.

Two Team Rated Play in PvP

It’s time to prove your skill! In this new type of competitive PvP, two teams of equal average rating are pitted against each other in a quick, intense match. The ratings for every member of each team is then adjusted after the match. "

I’m liking the rating part

Also, hopefully that post is a tiny snapshot of what’s to come, because my warped mine is expecting some big things from February/March updates.

i hope it is kinda like random arena so anyone can join in without having to form a team first.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

i hope it is kinda like random arena so anyone can join in without having to form a team first.

I think you may be underestimating how bad that would be if they allowed that in a same paid queue as full teams on VOIP. You would pay to get farmed. To get into paids I think it needs to be full pre-made teams against the same.

Frees with ranking should have a duo/solo only option with matchmaking. Then this game is in a happy place.

My prediction for what the new game mode will be like:

Regular conquest
Buffs [like temple buffs or similar] will appear on time intervals
Capture buff → run to point you currently own → receive point bonus

^^

yep, it’s “Eye of the Storm” for WoW aficionados ( sans purple ).

great gametype imo. best of both worlds. can make for roller coaster matches, great comeback potential.

in order for it to be really awesome though, the Orb can’t be on a timer, it needs to spawn as soon as it has been capped & should be waiting when the match begins. the reason is to incentivize protecting the Orb without capping it to attempt to force your opponents into a bad position, which they then have options for counterplay.

felivear.1536:

I think you may be underestimating how bad that would be if they allowed that in a same paid queue as full teams on VOIP. You would pay to get farmed. To get into paids I think it needs to be full pre-made teams against the same.

Frees with ranking should have a duo/solo only option with matchmaking. Then this game is in a happy place.

no underestimate. i know how it feels like to be “farmed” hahaah. i met up with “hunting high and low” guild in free tourney two times.

current free tourny already works regardless of the party size you enter.

i.e. enter alone, the system pairs u up with 4 others.
enter as 2 players, system finds 3 more.
enter as 3, system finds 2 more.
etc.
currently it works like this. i hope it stays that way at least.

if they add ranking / matching to it, it would be great i guess?

faeral.7120:

^^

yep, it’s “Eye of the Storm” for WoW aficionados ( sans purple ).

great gametype imo. best of both worlds. can make for roller coaster matches, great comeback potential.

in order for it to be really awesome though, the Orb can’t be on a timer, it needs to spawn as soon as it has been capped & should be waiting when the match begins. the reason is to incentivize protecting the Orb without capping it to attempt to force your opponents into a bad position, which they then have options for counterplay.

Yes, it sounds exactly like Eye of the Storm from WoW. That was actually one of my favorite maps there, but jeeesh … you have to admit that it took zero creativity on Anet’s part to come up with that. It is pure copycat in every way, and if they were going to put that little thought into it they could have at least ripped off a few more from WoW instead of only giving us one.

every artist is a thief. it will be a great addition b/c it doesn’t undermine the Conquest theme & also fulfills the requests for CTF.

ANet has still made a suite of unique conquest maps that haven’t been seen elsewhere.

It’s funny that everyone is hyped up because of :
“It’s time to prove your skill! In this new type of competitive PvP, two teams of equal average rating are pitted against each other in a quick, intense match. The ratings for every member of each team is then adjusted after the match.”

Unless a dev says otherwhise, I am 99.99% sure it is only matchmaking – which they are currently testing ingame. No ladder, no visible rating, no leaderboards – same old crap with the worst leaderboard system in the history of games called Qualifying Points.

This is completely awesome. The devs have given us two of the most requested features for spvp- a map with a new mechanic (if it like eye of the storm it will be great) and ranked matchmaking for teams.

The 1 map per tourney system was a brilliant idea, really made the game more enjoyable. With this new content spvp is going to be a blast. Good work imo.

i just hope they will add new reward system soon too, so it will be dependant on rating and not on glory farming like a crazy kitten…

anyway, this patch looks good and we are finally moving forward

Please anet, make those ratings visible in form of a ladder. We need LONG TIME MOTIVATION. At Least, everyone should be able to see his own ranking. In the next step make it visible for everyone

So this is the major pvp update? A new pvp map ? Gz PVP department seems to work hard. I remember an interview where one of you said that creating a new map dont need much manpower (the interview was regards to silent storm map). And Matchmaking is already implemented in my opinion because I mainly fight against players of the same level.

Ah and Anet: Regards to the Free Tournaments -> Congratulations you totally killed them. You want that people train maps in PAIDS? Training should be done in free tournaments or hot join. Since you totally messed up the Paid system my motivation is totally gone because everyone has orian gear and qualfication points are the new honor. Ah and thanks to god you also removed gems from PVP. Now you dont get any benefits in PVP for PVE. Niceeeee

And every WEEK a different map in Paids? You really want that people get tired of all of your maps. Common it cant be that hard to program a random selector for each queue.

we need more class balancing!

JS, could u write sth more about matchmaking?

How is it works? Rank or win/lose ratio is the most important thing? Do u plan create GUILD ratting soon? Do u plan balanced rewards? For low ratio lower than for higher? How do u see it? Do u think that gems should be part of reward?
Because its important to not waste another half year for bad/not working matchmaking.

MarkedOne.1309:

I am waiting to see 40 gems as a reward to the winner. I don’t have a reason to play paids anymore until I get some reward for playing it. Some QP is not gonna cut it since it is a useless currency and shows only how good and stable team you have (had). Next thing is, the rating better be good and not pug vs team, or based solely on ranks. Also, pug who do not use TS will get crushed over and over.

So gl in wait, nobody give 40 gems for a winer 1 round paid, because gems lose their value. I think reward should depence from actually position in ladder(normal ladder, not qp ladder), and only top teams should get gems from paid and it should be sth like 5 gems for a win.

You overthinking this guys.First lets see how it would go and then you can say what do you think.I find the February update very exciting…And the paid system 1v1 team was a blast for me.Im a casual player and i had a chance in playing some quick competetive games with randoms..And when we got randoms too,we got so much fun.I know some “pros” are now QQing cause ppl from randoms nuked em but i dont care.This was a success as Anet said cause it attracked more players to play pvp..Everyday someone was spamming for paids and you could find a decent random team in about half an hour.So i dont care what do you say the numbers says that was a success so it must stay that way.
I want to stay this system cause i had so much fun in some paids.So simple

So if thats gonna be the whole pvp patch im gonna leave this game.
This is even less then the january patch for pve. Like WTF ?

Really shocked anyone can moan about these changes. They are significant and prove that the devs know what is needed.

This game is a lot of fun but the main thing lacking is matchmaking and ratings. Getting stomped or stomping people is no fun. Honestly thats the only critism of the 1v1 team system I have seen by non-trolls on this forum. They want to play vs teams their standard. With this system they can do this.

The new map is another map to keep things fresh and hopefully they will have a full rotation of maps for this 1v1 system.

The devil is in the detail of course and they need to keep the cost to 1 ticket or (even better) remove the cost altogether.

But all in all the major thing needed sounds like it is being added to the game. If its coupled with a fixing of the score system (to make hotjoin less lame) then all the better. And sure there are some balance changes that are needed but presuming aoe tones down ranger traps and some of the dagger ele skills that will help (although I would rather eles getting a healing power nerf along with guardians). Traps obviously need some hate given how powerful they are on such short CD’s.

Let me informe you all who are asking for Traps nerf that Traps had been this way since the release.But in the last month ppl started asking to nerf em cause they became too strong.Its just that Rangers learned how to use em not that its powerfull.
And i believe that the 90% of the complains are Shatter Mesmers with no cond removal skills,cause if you got some good cond removal skills its easy to counter a trap Ranger.
I used to cry out for nerfs too,but we are still in the learning state so any big nerf or big buff it might destroy the game right now.I come to understand devs for not making haste moves.Its better to focus in stuff like match making and this new map-game mode than balancing “OP” classes

Nothing again for casual/solo queue players, just a new iteration of same ol, same ol… Oh well, Neverwinter and Teso are almost here, no need to keep beating a dead horse with a stick.

Khyras.8021:

Nothing again for casual/solo queue players, just a new iteration of same ol, same ol… Oh well, Neverwinter and Teso are almost here, no need to keep beating a dead horse with a stick.

On your bike then lad.

And yet we will have no private servers.

Dardamaniac.1295:

Let me informe you all who are asking for Traps nerf that Traps had been this way since the release.But in the last month ppl started asking to nerf em cause they became too strong.Its just that Rangers learned how to use em not that its powerfull.
And i believe that the 90% of the complains are Shatter Mesmers with no cond removal skills,cause if you got some good cond removal skills its easy to counter a trap Ranger.
I used to cry out for nerfs too,but we are still in the learning state so any big nerf or big buff it might destroy the game right now.I come to understand devs for not making haste moves.Its better to focus in stuff like match making and this new map-game mode than balancing “OP” classes

Ranger is easy mode and the main problem is that increase in arrow speed thing enhances their damage.

Seriously a ranger can just kite, use their pet and a few traps and just melt anyone else. Its easy mode completely.

Lordrosicky.5813:

Dardamaniac.1295:

Let me informe you all who are asking for Traps nerf that Traps had been this way since the release.But in the last month ppl started asking to nerf em cause they became too strong.Its just that Rangers learned how to use em not that its powerfull.
And i believe that the 90% of the complains are Shatter Mesmers with no cond removal skills,cause if you got some good cond removal skills its easy to counter a trap Ranger.
I used to cry out for nerfs too,but we are still in the learning state so any big nerf or big buff it might destroy the game right now.I come to understand devs for not making haste moves.Its better to focus in stuff like match making and this new map-game mode than balancing “OP” classes

Ranger is easy mode and the main problem is that increase in arrow speed thing enhances their damage.

Seriously a ranger can just kite, use their pet and a few traps and just melt anyone else. Its easy mode completely.

Play a ranger then, lad.

Lordrosicky.5813:

Dardamaniac.1295:

Let me informe you all who are asking for Traps nerf that Traps had been this way since the release.But in the last month ppl started asking to nerf em cause they became too strong.Its just that Rangers learned how to use em not that its powerfull.
And i believe that the 90% of the complains are Shatter Mesmers with no cond removal skills,cause if you got some good cond removal skills its easy to counter a trap Ranger.
I used to cry out for nerfs too,but we are still in the learning state so any big nerf or big buff it might destroy the game right now.I come to understand devs for not making haste moves.Its better to focus in stuff like match making and this new map-game mode than balancing “OP” classes

Ranger is easy mode and the main problem is that increase in arrow speed thing enhances their damage.

Seriously a ranger can just kite, use their pet and a few traps and just melt anyone else. Its easy mode completely.

Im sorry but i think that you are totally wrong.The arrow speed is just to avoid the obstructed bug that happened all the time.It didnt enchanced the dmg but the reliability.
heres an example what was the problem before patch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPEbzNl_mDE
And now believe this bug havent disapear 100%
It has a part II and III that you can see how problematic was the pets and still these problems havent gone 100%.
This thread is not a Ranger thread but because is mentioned about balancing in February update im using the Ranger example for 2 reasons:
1.Its the class i mainly play,so i know more things about it
2.All the arguement is to point that we dont need that much balancing

Khyras.8021:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Dardamaniac.1295:

Let me informe you all who are asking for Traps nerf that Traps had been this way since the release.But in the last month ppl started asking to nerf em cause they became too strong.Its just that Rangers learned how to use em not that its powerfull.
And i believe that the 90% of the complains are Shatter Mesmers with no cond removal skills,cause if you got some good cond removal skills its easy to counter a trap Ranger.
I used to cry out for nerfs too,but we are still in the learning state so any big nerf or big buff it might destroy the game right now.I come to understand devs for not making haste moves.Its better to focus in stuff like match making and this new map-game mode than balancing “OP” classes

Ranger is easy mode and the main problem is that increase in arrow speed thing enhances their damage.

Seriously a ranger can just kite, use their pet and a few traps and just melt anyone else. Its easy mode completely.

Play a ranger then, lad.

Lord is right. Ranger actually has only a small learning curve. The damage output is great for fights 1 v 1. Aoe for leeching glory in hotjoin.

Well I don’t actually think there’s a lack of content I thought Guild Missions arepretty exciting- oh wait I forgot where I was.

The most depressing part of the entire gw2 forums.

Move along, move along….

Miko.5726:

Khyras.8021:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Dardamaniac.1295:

Let me informe you all who are asking for Traps nerf that Traps had been this way since the release.But in the last month ppl started asking to nerf em cause they became too strong.Its just that Rangers learned how to use em not that its powerfull.
And i believe that the 90% of the complains are Shatter Mesmers with no cond removal skills,cause if you got some good cond removal skills its easy to counter a trap Ranger.
I used to cry out for nerfs too,but we are still in the learning state so any big nerf or big buff it might destroy the game right now.I come to understand devs for not making haste moves.Its better to focus in stuff like match making and this new map-game mode than balancing “OP” classes

Ranger is easy mode and the main problem is that increase in arrow speed thing enhances their damage.

Seriously a ranger can just kite, use their pet and a few traps and just melt anyone else. Its easy mode completely.

Play a ranger then, lad.

Lord is right. Ranger actually has only a small learning curve. The damage output is great for fights 1 v 1. Aoe for leeching glory in hotjoin.

I disagree completely, ranger is no easier than any other class.It may seem easy to you because rangers have been underdog in PvP since release and they had to work hard and learn how to adapt and overcome that, so now when they are balanced properly you start losing to skilled rangers and you think its easy. Because it MUST be easy, there is no way that someone who plays a ranger can be skilled player, all “skilled” players already play mesmers and thieves, right?

Funny … I find ele way easier than ranger. The only class I find to be more challenging than ranger is engineer . I should probably add, that I haven’t really dived into warrior gameplay, and I am most likely a horrible thief.
I think rangers reputation as a faceroll-class is a stigma inherited from another game … and completely undeserved.

Khyras.8021:

Miko.5726:

Khyras.8021:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Dardamaniac.1295:

Let me informe you all who are asking for Traps nerf that Traps had been this way since the release.But in the last month ppl started asking to nerf em cause they became too strong.Its just that Rangers learned how to use em not that its powerfull.
And i believe that the 90% of the complains are Shatter Mesmers with no cond removal skills,cause if you got some good cond removal skills its easy to counter a trap Ranger.
I used to cry out for nerfs too,but we are still in the learning state so any big nerf or big buff it might destroy the game right now.I come to understand devs for not making haste moves.Its better to focus in stuff like match making and this new map-game mode than balancing “OP” classes

Ranger is easy mode and the main problem is that increase in arrow speed thing enhances their damage.

Seriously a ranger can just kite, use their pet and a few traps and just melt anyone else. Its easy mode completely.

Play a ranger then, lad.

Lord is right. Ranger actually has only a small learning curve. The damage output is great for fights 1 v 1. Aoe for leeching glory in hotjoin.

I disagree completely, ranger is no easier than any other class.It may seem easy to you because rangers have been underdog in PvP since release and they had to work hard and learn how to adapt and overcome that, so now when they are balanced properly you start losing to skilled rangers and you think its easy. Because it MUST be easy, there is no way that someone who plays a ranger can be skilled player, all “skilled” players already play mesmers and thieves, right?

What you´re telling/teaching me? I play also a ranger. The thing is → You have a pet, fast stacking conditions and great range + aoe ! Ranger isn´t hard . Play a warrior and be competive, that´s hard.

Miko.5726:

Khyras.8021:

Miko.5726:

Khyras.8021:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Dardamaniac.1295:

Let me informe you all who are asking for Traps nerf that Traps had been this way since the release.But in the last month ppl started asking to nerf em cause they became too strong.Its just that Rangers learned how to use em not that its powerfull.
And i believe that the 90% of the complains are Shatter Mesmers with no cond removal skills,cause if you got some good cond removal skills its easy to counter a trap Ranger.
I used to cry out for nerfs too,but we are still in the learning state so any big nerf or big buff it might destroy the game right now.I come to understand devs for not making haste moves.Its better to focus in stuff like match making and this new map-game mode than balancing “OP” classes

Ranger is easy mode and the main problem is that increase in arrow speed thing enhances their damage.

Seriously a ranger can just kite, use their pet and a few traps and just melt anyone else. Its easy mode completely.

Play a ranger then, lad.

Lord is right. Ranger actually has only a small learning curve. The damage output is great for fights 1 v 1. Aoe for leeching glory in hotjoin.

I disagree completely, ranger is no easier than any other class.It may seem easy to you because rangers have been underdog in PvP since release and they had to work hard and learn how to adapt and overcome that, so now when they are balanced properly you start losing to skilled rangers and you think its easy. Because it MUST be easy, there is no way that someone who plays a ranger can be skilled player, all “skilled” players already play mesmers and thieves, right?

What you´re telling/teaching me? I play also a ranger. The thing is -> You have a pet, fast stacking conditions and great range + aoe ! Ranger isn´t hard . Play a warrior and be competive, that´s hard.

You play a ranger yet here you are badmouthing your own class ? Yeah, right. Necros and mesmers have even more pets, fast stacking conditions, better aoe and same range as rangers what is your kittening point?

S H A K U R AS.9536:

JS, could u write sth more about matchmaking?

How is it works? Rank or win/lose ratio is the most important thing? Do u plan create GUILD ratting soon? Do u plan balanced rewards? For low ratio lower than for higher? How do u see it? Do u think that gems should be part of reward?
Because its important to not waste another half year for bad/not working matchmaking.

This is also what I think.. Im no friend of stupid player ratings and average team ratings based on the player ratings for matchmaking.. Imagine: I always play with my guild and we all have the same player rating. Then I guest in my friend’s guild and we lose a couple of matches so MY OWN player rating decreases. Then I play again with my guild mates and our average team rating is lower than before because my player rating is lower through losing with a DIFFERENT team… but this affects our team rating —> that makes no sense imo

/vote for GUILD ladder

took them long enough to grasp the obvious. Over all it’s moving in the right direction for sure. I hope it’s not too late.

Khyras.8021:

Miko.5726:

Khyras.8021:

Miko.5726:

Khyras.8021:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Dardamaniac.1295:

Let me informe you all who are asking for Traps nerf that Traps had been this way since the release.But in the last month ppl started asking to nerf em cause they became too strong.Its just that Rangers learned how to use em not that its powerfull.
And i believe that the 90% of the complains are Shatter Mesmers with no cond removal skills,cause if you got some good cond removal skills its easy to counter a trap Ranger.
I used to cry out for nerfs too,but we are still in the learning state so any big nerf or big buff it might destroy the game right now.I come to understand devs for not making haste moves.Its better to focus in stuff like match making and this new map-game mode than balancing “OP” classes

Ranger is easy mode and the main problem is that increase in arrow speed thing enhances their damage.

Seriously a ranger can just kite, use their pet and a few traps and just melt anyone else. Its easy mode completely.

Play a ranger then, lad.

Lord is right. Ranger actually has only a small learning curve. The damage output is great for fights 1 v 1. Aoe for leeching glory in hotjoin.

I disagree completely, ranger is no easier than any other class.It may seem easy to you because rangers have been underdog in PvP since release and they had to work hard and learn how to adapt and overcome that, so now when they are balanced properly you start losing to skilled rangers and you think its easy. Because it MUST be easy, there is no way that someone who plays a ranger can be skilled player, all “skilled” players already play mesmers and thieves, right?

What you´re telling/teaching me? I play also a ranger. The thing is -> You have a pet, fast stacking conditions and great range + aoe ! Ranger isn´t hard . Play a warrior and be competive, that´s hard.

You play a ranger yet here you are badmouthing your own class ? Yeah, right. Necros and mesmers have even more pets, fast stacking conditions, better aoe and same range as rangers what is your kittening point?

I compare the classes only in their handling. And yes, ranger isnt´hard to play.

no ladder again ….. kitten ….. YOU HAVE EXCEEDED THE MAXIMUM EXTENT OF PATIENCE

We will surely have an opportunity to ask them today.

I’m just hoping the SOTG doesn’t turn into useless mumble like the first one with guys praising the PvP and debating one or two of their biggest gripes without getting the questions answered.

Don’t get me wrong, I have nothing against topQP players invited, but it really should be a community event, not a situation where they talk about only one profession or one skill for 30 minutes.

Miko.5726:

Khyras.8021:

Miko.5726:

Khyras.8021:

Miko.5726:

Khyras.8021:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Dardamaniac.1295:

Let me informe you all who are asking for Traps nerf that Traps had been this way since the release.But in the last month ppl started asking to nerf em cause they became too strong.Its just that Rangers learned how to use em not that its powerfull.
And i believe that the 90% of the complains are Shatter Mesmers with no cond removal skills,cause if you got some good cond removal skills its easy to counter a trap Ranger.
I used to cry out for nerfs too,but we are still in the learning state so any big nerf or big buff it might destroy the game right now.I come to understand devs for not making haste moves.Its better to focus in stuff like match making and this new map-game mode than balancing “OP” classes

Ranger is easy mode and the main problem is that increase in arrow speed thing enhances their damage.

Seriously a ranger can just kite, use their pet and a few traps and just melt anyone else. Its easy mode completely.

Play a ranger then, lad.

Lord is right. Ranger actually has only a small learning curve. The damage output is great for fights 1 v 1. Aoe for leeching glory in hotjoin.

I disagree completely, ranger is no easier than any other class.It may seem easy to you because rangers have been underdog in PvP since release and they had to work hard and learn how to adapt and overcome that, so now when they are balanced properly you start losing to skilled rangers and you think its easy. Because it MUST be easy, there is no way that someone who plays a ranger can be skilled player, all “skilled” players already play mesmers and thieves, right?

What you´re telling/teaching me? I play also a ranger. The thing is -> You have a pet, fast stacking conditions and great range + aoe ! Ranger isn´t hard . Play a warrior and be competive, that´s hard.

You play a ranger yet here you are badmouthing your own class ? Yeah, right. Necros and mesmers have even more pets, fast stacking conditions, better aoe and same range as rangers what is your kittening point?

I compare the classes only in their handling. And yes, ranger isnt´hard to play.

Agreed. Its probably the only class (maybe thief too) where somebody with literally no idea can pick it up…google a build and be able to win almost all 1v1s instantly even vs better players.

Lay a few aoe traps in front of u. Get ur pet to attack and then click some buttons from range. Its so basic lol

I’m having a hard time understanding Anet’s priorities.

While many voiced the opinion about how unattractive conquest mode is and the lack of diversity, investing resources in creating a new map instead of working on bringing together the PvP community doesn’t make much sense to me.

You have two issues here, really:

- Combat mechanics and PvP maps/mode that don’t appeal to everyone

- a complete lack of PvP community due to the above, but also, and dare I say mainly due to the lack of tools to follow players, teams, create the gossip, the atmosphere – the mix of taunts, rivalries, inspiration that make PvP so awesome and alive- and all these things necessary for the competitive scene to blossom.

Decision was made to ship the game without any of the features from the second batch, namely no matchmaking, no ladder, no obs mode. As a consequence there’s absolutely no way to know how good one is which leads to no excitement in the PvP scene. Quite the irony for a competitive game.

I understand implementing a competitive system with ladder and tournaments is quite complex, especially when in the shadow of Starcraft 2 and LoL season 3. But at least make it your top priority:(

Lordrosicky.5813:

Miko.5726:

Khyras.8021:

Miko.5726:

Khyras.8021:

Miko.5726:

Khyras.8021:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Dardamaniac.1295:

Let me informe you all who are asking for Traps nerf that Traps had been this way since the release.But in the last month ppl started asking to nerf em cause they became too strong.Its just that Rangers learned how to use em not that its powerfull.
And i believe that the 90% of the complains are Shatter Mesmers with no cond removal skills,cause if you got some good cond removal skills its easy to counter a trap Ranger.
I used to cry out for nerfs too,but we are still in the learning state so any big nerf or big buff it might destroy the game right now.I come to understand devs for not making haste moves.Its better to focus in stuff like match making and this new map-game mode than balancing “OP” classes

Ranger is easy mode and the main problem is that increase in arrow speed thing enhances their damage.

Seriously a ranger can just kite, use their pet and a few traps and just melt anyone else. Its easy mode completely.

Play a ranger then, lad.

Lord is right. Ranger actually has only a small learning curve. The damage output is great for fights 1 v 1. Aoe for leeching glory in hotjoin.

I disagree completely, ranger is no easier than any other class.It may seem easy to you because rangers have been underdog in PvP since release and they had to work hard and learn how to adapt and overcome that, so now when they are balanced properly you start losing to skilled rangers and you think its easy. Because it MUST be easy, there is no way that someone who plays a ranger can be skilled player, all “skilled” players already play mesmers and thieves, right?

What you´re telling/teaching me? I play also a ranger. The thing is -> You have a pet, fast stacking conditions and great range + aoe ! Ranger isn´t hard . Play a warrior and be competive, that´s hard.

You play a ranger yet here you are badmouthing your own class ? Yeah, right. Necros and mesmers have even more pets, fast stacking conditions, better aoe and same range as rangers what is your kittening point?

I compare the classes only in their handling. And yes, ranger isnt´hard to play.

Agreed. Its probably the only class (maybe thief too) where somebody with literally no idea can pick it up…google a build and be able to win almost all 1v1s instantly even vs better players.

Lay a few aoe traps in front of u. Get ur pet to attack and then click some buttons from range. Its so basic lol

You need to sacrifice utility skills to have traps, you “genius”.

regarding the announcement they did after the Christmas holidays the additional seem a bit low imo. maybe and hopefully they did not find it necessary to give the costume arenas a separate section.

hmm :-/

i lay my hopes in a ladder system. a working matchmaking is also a must. but PLEASE. Increase the reward for this effort greatly. r4x is so painfull.