Guild Wars 2

I’ve been doing a lot of unranked games recently, something I’d stopped doing months ago, if not years. What follows is some feedback on my experience – some of it is probably common, sorry about it.

I would like to know and track my MMR over time (figures and graphs). It is simply a factual measure of my progress as a player. If I pour efforts into the game, then I want to see this figure increase. If the figure stops increasing, then I can seek advice from stronger players. Without this figure, there’s no way to know if I’m making progress or stagnating, and this is a bit disheartening.

In a game, I would like to know the MMR of my team mates and opponents. I don’t mind seeing it after the game, nor if it is made anonymous, so as to avoid bad manners between players. What I care for, though, is a factual measure of the strength of the different teams, to get a hint of whether the game was favorable or not, and how I should have dealt with it (play more aggressively or conservatively).

I would like the MMR of each player I play with to be closer than mine, if possible. I understand that other match-making parameters should compensate for the level discrepancy between players, and that tactics should be adjusted during the game. Still, I believe that the individual strength of players is more significant in the general outcome than is currently considered.

I only played one class. This is because my mastery of other classes is significantly inferior. I would love to play other classes – but a single attempt resulted in a spectacular defeat, because the level of my opponents was the same as usual (and my own level with the secondary class was bad). I am perplexed: how am I supposed to improve in other classes – grinding hotjoin?

The overall experience was positive and enjoyable. I don’t know how many matches I had in the last few days – maybe fifty (there’s unfortunately no game history available?). I remember having maybe 5 RQs or AFKs (10%), and the same ratio of toxic players (but my block list is huge). Queues times were between one or two minutes, even during the night.

Thanks for the well-articulated post.

I definitely agree with point #1. The league system isn’t exactly reflective of my skill level, so I’d like to know what my MMR actually is (for all the reasons you’ve stated).

I’m indifferent about #2.

While I agree with point #3, this has the balanced between similarity of player skill level and Q times… Different people have different concerns, so this will always be up for dispute.

As for point #4, I don’t think there’s much you can do. Should your MMR be reset for each class? Good players will pick up new classes 10x faster than newer players, they also have knowledge of all the map mechanics. Should a good player playing a new class have their “MMR” bumped down (how far)? I don’t know of any competitive game that does this.

Other than that… Yeah, play unranked until your defeats aren’t as spectacular and grind hotjoin (try dueling rooms to work on your mechanics).

Glad you’re having a good time in PvP though. Hit me up in-game if you want someone to play with (NA time zone)

Hi,

AlexPan.8614:

While I agree with point #3, this has the balanced between similarity of player skill level and Q times… Different people have different concerns, so this will always be up for dispute.

I understand that, it’s just that the more I play, the more I feel that players in the games are way stronger than I am, and I don’t get what I’m doing in such games (although I’m having lots of fun). I did a few more games yesterday, and queues times went up from my usual 1-2 minutes to 3-4 minutes.

AlexPan.8614:

Other than that… Yeah, play unranked until your defeats aren’t as spectacular and grind hotjoin (try dueling rooms to work on your mechanics).

Thanks for the advice. I’m actually a former heavy hotjoin hero, who wanted to try unranked games for a while. I cannot seem to progress in hotjoin with these classes, but I’ll persist. I’ll try dueling rooms too.

AlexPan.8614:

Glad you’re having a good time in PvP though. Hit me up in-game if you want someone to play with (NA time zone)

I’m on EU, but thanks very much for the invitation, appreciate it. Happy PvP to you.

Please continue to give us great post like this.

I agree fully with you.

I would add that people you blocked should not see your MMR for obvious reason.

I would like to have a “public, friend, private” switch, that way all player could do whatever they want with their own MMR.

But TEAM MMR should always been shown, so we can say if we did perform well for that MMR level (even after a lost).

And since MMR is used across the board (in league too), I want this for all QUEUE that use MMR.