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Posted by: Eater of Peeps.9062

Eater of Peeps.9062

Here’s my solution to the pvp debacle that anet has rained upon us.

Reset mmr ea season.

Make amber thru ruby 100% random, solo q, w/ no ability to reroll. Once in, you can’t leave ever. If you dc, game instantly stops and same game must be replayed until completion.

Once in dia, everyone/anyone can form teams (cuz u know, these are all the good players, and they should all team up – cuz if u lose, and lose a lot, u wont make it thru a random matchup in just one season, no matter how much u grind) and ts is allowed and rerolls and synchronicity, etc.

That way, the pros get to the top solo, but quick anyway cuz they’re so great. The other players only get to dia (if they do at all) when they eek their way up solo random.

That way, pros get truly good players (and new players) to go against since only the good ones can get thru that system in less than 1 season.

Also, bad players still can get occasional wins/carries but inevitably, they will be weeded out in the short season solo random punch out.

Pros will have more, new, good players (the lack of which they always complain about) and good, med, and even poor players will have the opportunity to improve, win a few, and not get horribly demoralized.

Why is this such a bad fix? Why is this such a horrible idea? I c absolutely no down side to it whatsoever.

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Posted by: Agemnon.4608

Agemnon.4608

Banning TS is unrealistic since it’s a third party program.

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Posted by: warbignime.4610

warbignime.4610

If mmr reset each season then you will see 20 post each day on forum complaining that they got unlucky at start and they were dragged down by team mates. I can gaurantee you way more people will be raging on forum.

Some must fight so that all may be free.

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Posted by: Eater of Peeps.9062

Eater of Peeps.9062

TS is harder to use in random solo q – that’s all I’m suggesting – not a ban.

Also, if mmr is reset, y would anyone complain? we all start on equal playing field. Everyone the same. Equality.

People will always complain about unluckiness, because team arena is a team of 5 and ur teammates might suck. That is a given. But it is much worse when ur negative mmr (cuz u tried out different classes/builds/dce’d etc in addition to ur sucky teammates and ur own lack of personal skill) will haunt u and follow u forever in pvp w/ the lack of a reset.

Ppl w/ low mmr cannot ever break out of playing w./ bad ppl, unless they pay someone to carry, or form a team w/ pros (hahahah – like theyre gonna take someone w/ low mmr). So um. What is the suggestion for ppl w/ low mmr? Getting gud doesn’t help, cuz u still r paired w/ 4 other ppl w/ low mmr (who may suck) each match, and ur pitted against winning/high mmr players. Its a recipe for endless disappointing pvp play. U know, mmr hell.

I actually cannot believe anet would betray its players in this manner.

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Posted by: Ellie.5913

Ellie.5913

TS is harder to use in random solo q – that’s all I’m suggesting – not a ban.

Also, if mmr is reset, y would anyone complain? we all start on equal playing field. Everyone the same. Equality.

People will always complain about unluckiness, because team arena is a team of 5 and ur teammates might suck. That is a given. But it is much worse when ur negative mmr (cuz u tried out different classes/builds/dce’d etc in addition to ur sucky teammates and ur own lack of personal skill) will haunt u and follow u forever in pvp w/ the lack of a reset.

Ppl w/ low mmr cannot ever break out of playing w./ bad ppl, unless they pay someone to carry, or form a team w/ pros (hahahah – like theyre gonna take someone w/ low mmr). So um. What is the suggestion for ppl w/ low mmr? Getting gud doesn’t help, cuz u still r paired w/ 4 other ppl w/ low mmr (who may suck) each match, and ur pitted against winning/high mmr players. Its a recipe for endless disappointing pvp play. U know, mmr hell.

I actually cannot believe anet would betray its players in this manner.

That’s why ranked isn’t worth playing anymore….the matches are fixed. If you’re not on the winning high mmr team or the organized premade you are just there to be farmed by others so THEY can get pips…wtf is the point in that. I’m not playing video games just to be some ones kitten farming material. No thanks, everyone who doesn’t have high mmr or a premade team should just quit and not give them the pleasure of fast matches and easy wins just because you are there to be farmed repeatedly.

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Posted by: Reaper Alim.4176

Reaper Alim.4176

TS is harder to use in random solo q – that’s all I’m suggesting – not a ban.

Also, if mmr is reset, y would anyone complain? we all start on equal playing field. Everyone the same. Equality.

People will always complain about unluckiness, because team arena is a team of 5 and ur teammates might suck. That is a given. But it is much worse when ur negative mmr (cuz u tried out different classes/builds/dce’d etc in addition to ur sucky teammates and ur own lack of personal skill) will haunt u and follow u forever in pvp w/ the lack of a reset.

Ppl w/ low mmr cannot ever break out of playing w./ bad ppl, unless they pay someone to carry, or form a team w/ pros (hahahah – like theyre gonna take someone w/ low mmr). So um. What is the suggestion for ppl w/ low mmr? Getting gud doesn’t help, cuz u still r paired w/ 4 other ppl w/ low mmr (who may suck) each match, and ur pitted against winning/high mmr players. Its a recipe for endless disappointing pvp play. U know, mmr hell.

I actually cannot believe anet would betray its players in this manner.

That’s why ranked isn’t worth playing anymore….the matches are fixed. If you’re not on the winning high mmr team or the organized premade you are just there to be farmed by others so THEY can get pips…wtf is the point in that. I’m not playing video games just to be some ones kitten farming material. No thanks, everyone who doesn’t have high mmr or a premade team should just quit and not give them the pleasure of fast matches and easy wins just because you are there to be farmed repeatedly.

Pretty kitten much GG! But some of this kitten can be mitigated a lot if ANet allowed players to fully customize their builds rather then have to play a handful of meta builds that might never suit their play style, just to even try to be competitive in these matches. Also ANet why are you so against giving us a ranked queue for only solo que’ers or make other rank modes like 1v1 or 2v2 or even 3v3, or even stop allowing players to class stack?

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Posted by: Burn.5401

Burn.5401

Pretty sure all of the above has been suggested all they way from season 1 so I doubt anet cares at this point. It’s a sinking ship that’s almost reached the bottom.

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Posted by: Bazooka.3590

Bazooka.3590

Pretty sure all of the above has been suggested all they way from season 1 so I doubt anet cares at this point. It’s a sinking ship that’s almost reached the bottom.

And this ship is sinking very fast sice June 23, 2015 and HoT has just accelerated this progress. They must have a very bad decision maker.

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Posted by: Wolfric.9380

Wolfric.9380

A speech chat integrated would be great.

The player can activate it after map roll. (auto if set in config or per activate button)
It will create a voice chat with the current team.
It´s closed after leaving the map.

So automatic, integrated temporary speach chat channels.

No clue if this will ever be done. Would require to add something like a converencing system to GW.

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Posted by: Ranael.6423

Ranael.6423

Pretty sure all of the above has been suggested all they way from season 1 so I doubt anet cares at this point. It’s a sinking ship that’s almost reached the bottom.

And your still standing on the bridge, knowing it is sinking? Not really how one win evolution….

As for OP, MMR reset would create much worse matches at beginning of the season. People complain on the forum, but that is what forums are for, most players don’t even know they can access the forum because they simply don’t care.
Unability to join as duo/group would also make the game unfriendly. I mean there is a social component in the game so if people cannot group in pvp the social part fails. There should be a compromise between strict solo and evry group size as we have now. In fact I tend to think that Legendary should only be a fix 5 man queue, because… well ….team based game.

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Posted by: Eagelseye.6312

Eagelseye.6312

Anet should do the opposite. They should “BAN” soloQ from Ranked games and make it mandatory for players to enter games as premades. PvP is a team game and should be played as a team. No SoloQ will ensure the same. Also if they remove PvE loot from Ranked games, it will take away a lot of bogus PvE players from it as well.

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Posted by: Weerus.3701

Weerus.3701

I agree on locking classes once you load into the map. Would benefit team diversity and fairness acroos all games.

REAL SOLUTION:
They really need to split ranked games in SOLOQ and PARTYQ!!!

SOLOQ: You progress to higher tiers and get same rewards as now, as it reflects your PERSONAL PVP SKILL!

PARTYQ: Your teaam progress only in divisions and get some special rewards for reaching specific division on the end of the season as to show your TEAMS PVP SKILL!

This would bring fair matches for everyone and make pvp more enjoyable. No more partyq abuse and ppl would start playing partyq simply to become the best team, NOT TO EXPLOIT DIVISION LVL UP REWARD SYSTEM!

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Posted by: Wolfric.9380

Wolfric.9380

Intresting suggestion to only allow teams to enter ranked. It will force a huge number to unranked because they won´t take the effort to build a team. No more enter the game for 15 minutes doing a fast ranked match after breakfast and then move on to work or whatever …

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Posted by: LordCody.6245

LordCody.6245

17 match loss streak 2 out of 25 overall solo queing terrible

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Posted by: Weerus.3701

Weerus.3701

no need for ranked to be teams only, just make solo and team ranked, simple really..

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Posted by: Reaper Alim.4176

Reaper Alim.4176

no need for ranked to be teams only, just make solo and team ranked, simple really..

But the truth is if that the pre mades and so called pros of GW2 didn’t have people to use as stepping stones/curbstomp for free divisions, then they would leave GW2 for another easier game that is just as brain dead and take just as little skill, just a crap ton of gimmicks to win and boost their already super low self esteem. Cause lets face it you don’t play GW2’s spvp seriously if you are looking for competitive PvP unless you are just blind, or just suck at actual skill based PvP games.

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Posted by: Razor.9872

Razor.9872

Pretty sure all of the above has been suggested all they way from season 1 so I doubt anet cares at this point. It’s a sinking ship that’s almost reached the bottom.

And this ship is sinking very fast sice June 23, 2015 and HoT has just accelerated this progress. They must have a very bad decision maker.

People have been saying this ship is sinking fast for so long, I’m starting to question exactly how large this ship is…

NSPride <3

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Posted by: Trigr.6481

Trigr.6481

Make amber thru ruby 100% random, solo q, w/ no ts ability and no ability to reroll.

A-net is already out of touch when it comes to SPvP, and you think they have the capability to magically ban every third party voip program? Get real.

Countless

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Posted by: Phaeton.9582

Phaeton.9582

Banning TS is unrealistic since it’s a third party program.

Preventing humans from talking is easier than implementing in-game voip though.


Phaatonn, London UK

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Posted by: Phaeton.9582

Phaeton.9582

Also was it just me that found (LB) ranked solo q fun?


Phaatonn, London UK

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Posted by: Weerus.3701

Weerus.3701

Ofc you keep division from last season or drop just 1 lower, to reset completely would bring tears to many ppl :P Then again such matches happen every time ppl from high division decide to join an unranked match so..

Also Phanteon, I do find solo q fun aswell. But sometimes you can’t help but ask yourself how can you be top player 10 games in a row and still loose. And I’m not talking about plain points, I mean ppl joining ranked and do things like off camp fighting, no target marking (literaly I have to do that 99.99% matches), 2 ppl or more point capping when one kitten is being ganked on far etc.

I can Understand that teams we play against were more or less premades, but thats why the only solution we have is to split ranked in solo q and team q.

I have rarely anyone to join me on pvp (most friends pve) and I would really love to be on the premade team for once..

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Posted by: Eater of Peeps.9062

Eater of Peeps.9062

Pretty sure all of the above has been suggested all they way from season 1 so I doubt anet cares at this point. It’s a sinking ship that’s almost reached the bottom.

And your still standing on the bridge, knowing it is sinking? Not really how one win evolution….

As for OP, MMR reset would create much worse matches at beginning of the season. People complain on the forum, but that is what forums are for, most players don’t even know they can access the forum because they simply don’t care.
Unability to join as duo/group would also make the game unfriendly. I mean there is a social component in the game so if people cannot group in pvp the social part fails. There should be a compromise between strict solo and evry group size as we have now. In fact I tend to think that Legendary should only be a fix 5 man queue, because… well ….team based game.

So what if mmr reset causes worse matches for everyone in beginning of seas. At least we are all on same level playing field. Isn’t that a better alternative than punishing players w/ low mmr (earned for whatever reasons – maybe personal skill, but maybe unlucky, or ppl afk or dcing, or brand new pvp players etc) forever? Forever. My low mmr follows me forever. I am paired w. brand new players who do not know how to pvp at all. I have to teach them all day, and still I lose. It is not fun. I paid the same amount for this game as everyone else. Why am I being so horribly punished forever because of the first week in seas 2 (I had 60 win/loss ratio going into first week seas 2, but lost to pros that 1st week, and tanked my mmr unwittingly).

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Posted by: Reaper Alim.4176

Reaper Alim.4176

Pretty sure all of the above has been suggested all they way from season 1 so I doubt anet cares at this point. It’s a sinking ship that’s almost reached the bottom.

And your still standing on the bridge, knowing it is sinking? Not really how one win evolution….

As for OP, MMR reset would create much worse matches at beginning of the season. People complain on the forum, but that is what forums are for, most players don’t even know they can access the forum because they simply don’t care.
Unability to join as duo/group would also make the game unfriendly. I mean there is a social component in the game so if people cannot group in pvp the social part fails. There should be a compromise between strict solo and evry group size as we have now. In fact I tend to think that Legendary should only be a fix 5 man queue, because… well ….team based game.

So what if mmr reset causes worse matches for everyone in beginning of seas. At least we are all on same level playing field. Isn’t that a better alternative than punishing players w/ low mmr (earned for whatever reasons – maybe personal skill, but maybe unlucky, or ppl afk or dcing, or brand new pvp players etc) forever? Forever. My low mmr follows me forever. I am paired w. brand new players who do not know how to pvp at all. I have to teach them all day, and still I lose. It is not fun. I paid the same amount for this game as everyone else. Why am I being so horribly punished forever because of the first week in seas 2 (I had 60 win/loss ratio going into first week seas 2, but lost to pros that 1st week, and tanked my mmr unwittingly).

Because my fellow players this is GW2 that’s why, it’s pretty simple. I having a blast on ESO as we speak in RvR. Smite is a still a very much fun and competitive alternative to GW2 sPvP plus you have more game modes then conquest and one map of stronghold, not to mention the many many hand fulls of builds and playstyles, and then the ability to counter play the opposing team during the match. Just saying is all.

But then again you probable are not looking for a competitive pvp game, but for GW2 to give you what some of the other players are getting… FREE WINS/handouts for legendary back piece. Which in my opinion is not my ideal in the slightest fun.

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Posted by: antichecker.1675

antichecker.1675


Once in, you can’t leave ever. If you dc, game instantly stops and same game must be replayed until completion…

this is where I stopped reading.

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Posted by: Crinn.7864

Crinn.7864

Also, if mmr is reset, y would anyone complain? we all start on equal playing field. Everyone the same. Equality.

People aren’t looking for equality.

People are looking for good matches and progression. It doesn’t matter how “fair” the system is if the matches are blowouts and a person can’t progress.

If you boil people’s complaints down you’ll notice that nearly all players value the following three points.
1. Good match quality. (note: whether a match is won or lost tends to bias people’s perception of the match quality)
2. Achieveable Progression (where the definition of “achievable” varies based on the player’s capabilities)
3. Meaningful reward for achieving/progressing. (basically exclusivity of rewards)

Season 1 worked well with points 1 and 2 but failed epically at point 3. Season 2 just failed at everything. Season 3 so far seems to just be “meh” in all categories.

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