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Posted by: Roe.3679

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I’ve been experiencing a lot more 4v5s in soloQ lately, a problem that is not an uncommon experience. While I find them annoying, I even caused one myself as real life came up at the same time as my match queue.

This is a big issue. It ruins games as they are almost never competitive, they are a waste of time, and it compromises the integrity of these “ranked” matches. It trivializes the whole thing down to somewhat-more-serious-because-of-the-rewards hotjoin. Plenty if people just queue alone in team queue to avoid some soloQ issues.

An idea came to me though. The queue for SoloQ should work like the queue for World vs. World. In case no one is familiar, the WvW queue pops and gives you 3 options – accept your queue pop, re-enter the queue, or leave the queue altogether, and it gives you about a minute to decide, and if no decision is made, they are removed from the queue. If the SoloQ queue worked this way it could address some of the biggest issues with SoloQ:

- Hate Skyhammer? Re-enter the queue
- AFK? You’ll be passed over
- Something come up (in game or IRL)? Leave the queue

This would improve population of soloQ by fixing issues and drawing people from teamQ to soloQ where they actually should be, if it were a better time. If this worked this way, it could speed up queue times as AFK players or people choosing not to enter a match would be passed over for players in waiting. The match timer could start with full 5 man teams on each side, each player willingly there. The queue pop itself would only need 15-30 seconds for someone to make a decision, then, the time before a match could be reduced. Players who accept but don’t have a full team see “waiting for players,” where the timer would be, which doesn’t start until they have a full team, while the queue runs through the best prospects for the match.

Another thing this could solve is that currently, people can get pushed into the game as soon as it starts with hardly any time to communicate, adjust their builds, switch characters, or anything. If this happened, people could have a minute after the teams are full to do these things.

I think this change, along with starting with 5 man teams because of it, would go a long way to make soloQ a more legitimate experience.

TL;DR: Give soloQ options to re-enter queue or leave queue like WvW to fix soloQ issues.

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Posted by: joonasp.9217

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All these have been suggested a million times. Anet just dun care.

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Posted by: Roe.3679

Roe.3679

All these have been suggested a million times. Anet just dun care.

I’ve seen these issues laid out, but I personally haven’t seen them related to the WvW queue system/options that are already in game.

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Posted by: Narkodx.1472

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We have suggested having all 10 people press the ready button before the match begins or everyone gets thrown back into que – seems too complicated

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

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All these have been suggested a million times. Anet just dun care.

Pretty much, I mean how hard is it to add an I’m ready button? Anet doesn’t care, and pvp is just on life support, they’re not trying to improve it what so ever. Just trying to keep the population they have.

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Posted by: Geiir.7603

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This would definitely fix solo queue! I really hope ANet see this thread and take action. Gonna keep bumping until they see ^^

Oh, and the queue pop should have a sound so that people getting their tea actually can react in time.

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Posted by: Geiir.7603

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Bumping because I think this should not go unnoticed.

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Posted by: Roe.3679

Roe.3679

All these have been suggested a million times. Anet just dun care.

Pretty much, I mean how hard is it to add an I’m ready button? Anet doesn’t care, and pvp is just on life support, they’re not trying to improve it what so ever. Just trying to keep the population they have.

I’m not sure an I’m ready button would help, since players currently can be pushed into a match even if they are AFK. What happens when someone is AFK, and not hitting the button? Then everyone is waiting and probably pushed back into the queue. Those people need to be weeded out before even joining the match.

This would definitely fix solo queue! I really hope ANet see this thread and take action. Gonna keep bumping until they see ^^

Oh, and the queue pop should have a sound so that people getting their tea actually can react in time.

Appreciate the kind words! I agree though, a sound would be good, and even if the game icon could blink if you have the game minimized, which was a suggestion from another thread by another poster. Who knows how many AFKs happen because someone was in a long queue, and didnt check for 2 minutes or so? A better queue would go a long way.

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

Harbinger.8637

All these have been suggested a million times. Anet just dun care.

Pretty much, I mean how hard is it to add an I’m ready button? Anet doesn’t care, and pvp is just on life support, they’re not trying to improve it what so ever. Just trying to keep the population they have.

I’m not sure an I’m ready button would help, since players currently can be pushed into a match even if they are AFK. What happens when someone is AFK, and not hitting the button? Then everyone is waiting and probably pushed back into the queue. Those people need to be weeded out before even joining the match.

This would definitely fix solo queue! I really hope ANet see this thread and take action. Gonna keep bumping until they see ^^

Oh, and the queue pop should have a sound so that people getting their tea actually can react in time.

Appreciate the kind words! I agree though, a sound would be good, and even if the game icon could blink if you have the game minimized, which was a suggestion from another thread by another poster. Who knows how many AFKs happen because someone was in a long queue, and didnt check for 2 minutes or so? A better queue would go a long way.

That’s the whole point of the I’m ready button. Everyone has to “accept” or “ready up” for the game to start. If not everyone does, then the players get thrown back into the queue. The player(s) that didn’t “accept” or “ready up” are not put back into the queue though.

Sure it’s not the prefect solution, but it works (CSGO and Dota2 are prefect example). You’re not going to stop every AFKer because no system can, but you will stop a majority of them.

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Posted by: Roe.3679

Roe.3679

All these have been suggested a million times. Anet just dun care.

Pretty much, I mean how hard is it to add an I’m ready button? Anet doesn’t care, and pvp is just on life support, they’re not trying to improve it what so ever. Just trying to keep the population they have.

I’m not sure an I’m ready button would help, since players currently can be pushed into a match even if they are AFK. What happens when someone is AFK, and not hitting the button? Then everyone is waiting and probably pushed back into the queue. Those people need to be weeded out before even joining the match.

This would definitely fix solo queue! I really hope ANet see this thread and take action. Gonna keep bumping until they see ^^

Oh, and the queue pop should have a sound so that people getting their tea actually can react in time.

Appreciate the kind words! I agree though, a sound would be good, and even if the game icon could blink if you have the game minimized, which was a suggestion from another thread by another poster. Who knows how many AFKs happen because someone was in a long queue, and didnt check for 2 minutes or so? A better queue would go a long way.

That’s the whole point of the I’m ready button. Everyone has to “accept” or “ready up” for the game to start. If not everyone does, then the players get thrown back into the queue. The player(s) that didn’t “accept” or “ready up” are not put back into the queue though.

Sure it’s not the prefect solution, but it works (CSGO and Dota2 are prefect example). Sure you’re not going to stop every AFKer, but there is no system that can.

I see, I misunderstood. I thought you were referring more towards something like the “I’m ready” button that you can press before a match that doesn’t do anything.

It’s essentially the same suggestion, though. It seems simple enough, and it works just fine for other games and WvW.