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Posted by: Demon.7832

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I’ve been playing a tanky sidepoint kind of ranger build for awhile now and it seems to work okay for free tournaments but I’ve realized that the greatsword #1 skill causes you to be counted as off the point when you evade on the third part of the chain has anyone else noticed this? Basically I can be standing on the point the whole time attacking an enemy and they still neutralize it. Maybe rangers are further from being fixed than I thought, ended up changing my build around a lot after I realized this.

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Posted by: Gintoki.6405

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yeah its frustrating but it seems that almost all evades, stealths,invulnerables count as not on the point.. a fairly silly decision in my point of view in spvp, since it basically promotes standing like a lemon and using screen type spells for defence rather then trying to evade and skillfully keep a point or stop a point being taking just for a few seconds by using invulnerables or stealths.. i dunno though.. seems like a random “fix” to simplify the game.

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Posted by: Demon.7832

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After looking at it closer there seems to be a lot of random things that cause me to be “off point” while im on the point so I’m not sure if its the GS or something else. “Protect Me” seems to be the biggest obvious one but it just seems ridiculous to me that it causes me to be off point for 6 seconds if I want to use it. wtf fix this please.

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Posted by: Panther Chameleon.8465

Panther Chameleon.8465

Guard takes you off point, too. This whole game is ridiculous. Oh, you’re not allowed to stomp players when you use Signet of the Wild. That’s fair, right? But, it’s fine for players to be stealth stomped. I’m in a raging mood because I downed a Thief after blocking and evading the burst…couldn’t stomp her because I was perma crippled, but I can’t use Signet of Wild either. Teamate rezzed her and BOOM! Hide in Shadows/Steal/Cnd/Backstab burst ready to go again.

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Posted by: Knote.2904

Knote.2904

Woah, since when do invulns/evades count as off the point? Oo

Is this new, I do NOT remember this ever being the case.

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Posted by: Gintoki.6405

Gintoki.6405

im sure they are being looked at, in case of stomps it does seem abit weird, as far as im aware deathshroud stomp no longer works, stealth stomp does work, mist form stomp? im pretty sure that still works, engis have that elixr that gives them either stealth or stability for stomps, i suggest using “quickness on pet swap” for stomps if finishing it quickly is an issue.

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Posted by: Shukran.4851

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next patch: jumping will count as off point.
btw i agree stealth count as off point..but evade..really…

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Posted by: Panther Chameleon.8465

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im sure they are being looked at, in case of stomps it does seem abit weird, as far as im aware deathshroud stomp no longer works, stealth stomp does work, mist form stomp? im pretty sure that still works, engis have that elixr that gives them either stealth or stability for stomps, i suggest using “quickness on pet swap” for stomps if finishing it quickly is an issue.

Don’t even get me started on Mist Form. They were talking about how kittening broken it is on the live discussion or whatever the kitten. Even if I were to try and quickness stomp I guarantee she could have just popped stealth. I was crippled, and if I used my signet for stability means I can’t stomp the Thief so I was downed and melted since Rangers don’t get +50% damage when downed…they get to “throw dirt” and pets can lick us, yay!

Anyways, there’s a thread suggesting we give Thieves the greatsword and I’m all for it. It’s the only reason why I’m still using ranger with gs… I hate using a pet, but don’t want to hundred blades anymore. I love the skill set the ranger has for gs, but the god awful pets and forced into defense tree for better cool downs just wrecks it.

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Posted by: BlueprintLFE.2358

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How about a guardians Renewed Focus? Is that now counting them as off the point? Seems only fair.

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Posted by: TheZeus.8617

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Yes guards renewed focus counts as off point… I know it sucks at times lol

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Posted by: JonPeters.5630

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Thanks for this catch. I will look at it on Monday.

Invuln and invis are intended to stop you from capping, but simple evades are not.

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Posted by: Vlad Morbius.1759

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Thanks for this catch. I will look at it on Monday.

Invuln and invis are intended to stop you from capping, but simple evades are not.

Jon

Good to see you here Jon, our guild thought you had moved on , happy that’s not the case!

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Thanks for this catch. I will look at it on Monday.

Invuln and invis are intended to stop you from capping, but simple evades are not.

Jon

Good to see you here Jon, our guild thought you had moved on , happy that’s not the case!

Its just Thanksgiving/holiday times. As frustrating as it is we do have to take some time off. I’ll be playing some PvP sometime this weekend. Hope to see you on there…

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Posted by: Demon.7832

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To be honest I think I may have jumped the gun and blamed it on the greatsword too quickly. I noticed I was going off point a lot though while still actually being on the point and asked some people about it and someone told me they heard one of the greatsword skills might cause it and they thought it was from the #1 skill and it seemed to make since at the time. I’d have to actually test it closer to be sure but I think I may have been wrong on this one and it was actually “protect me” although it’s still really annoying that “protect me” takes you off point its definitely more understandable than if it was the greatsword. Thank you for your response though Jon Peters as its always nice to see communication.

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Posted by: Khyras.8021

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Example: few days ago there was a bug in swtor making your companion not benefit from equipment bonuses after you summon him.That bug was fixed within 24 hours.Here, they cannot fix a game breaking bug and it has been a month since it appeared.Moreover, this is not first time that bug has occurred. And i am ignorant for criticizing ? Are you kidding me? Its time to put some pressure on these people, my respect for A-net is gone,

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Posted by: Nikkle.4013

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Example: few days ago there was a bug in swtor making your companion not benefit from equipment bonuses after you summon him.That bug was fixed within 24 hours.Here, they cannot fix a game breaking bug and it has been a month since it appeared.Moreover, this is not first time that bug has occurred. And i am ignorant for criticizing ? Are you kidding me? Its time to put some pressure on these people, my respect for A-net is gone,

I remember whole guilds on my server quitting swtor because of the massive amount of bugs it had 2-3 months after launch. Interesting that it has become the example of quick fixes.

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Posted by: Xom.9264

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Example: few days ago there was a bug in swtor making your companion not benefit from equipment bonuses after you summon him.That bug was fixed within 24 hours.Here, they cannot fix a game breaking bug and it has been a month since it appeared.Moreover, this is not first time that bug has occurred. And i am ignorant for criticizing ? Are you kidding me? Its time to put some pressure on these people, my respect for A-net is gone,

Well swtor was one of the worst released games I have ever seen glad they finally got caught up with the bugs. Anet release was one of the best I have seen and we can look forward to it being a great game when the bugs are fixed because it has a great foundation. swtor was built on a terrible foundation old gameplay and combat you would expect in a 8 year old MMO.

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