Guild Wars 2

I bought this game about 4 days ago. Have to say pvp in this game favors stealthers and ranged classes only. The amount of dodges, escapes, stealth and healing for ranged classes in this game is insane compared to other mmorpgs.

I try to learn how to pvp as a melee warrior. I cannot close the distance and i rarely land a hit. I have no freaking idea which buffs, abilities my foes are using because they are all instant abilities and there aren’t enough visual indicators to know which ones they turned on. So far only abilities i know how to dodge are aoe abilities. Other than that i have no idea what the hell is going on. Unless there is a detailed guide to teach new players how to pvp in this game, i am done with this game.

That isnt that weird if youre new to an MMO right? It takes some time to get to know the game and its classes. Ive been playing GW2 since beta and i still dont know everything. Thats a part of the fun/challenge when playing an MMO.

Most people have a bit more experience than you have in this game. So they figured out when to use defensives or how to kill you while you are still learning. Its a part of the learning process when being new to an MMO.

Warriors are actually really good right now with the right build and if played well. So there is light at the end of the tunnel!

A few tips:

- Dont join 8v8 hotjoins. You can manually join the servers that are numbered 100 or higher or you can create a filter so it shows only 5v5 servers. 5v5 is a lot less chaotic and the prefered format for pretty much all pvpers.
- Builds are a huge part of your succes and failure in pvp. If you whent with your own build its very likely that that is a big part of your problem.
- In the pvp hub (the mists) youll find relatively challenging practice NPCs of every single profession (class) that hit just as hard as real players. If you open the map youll see orange fists. The NPCS are at the top one. These NPCs are excellent practice and give you an idea of other classes.
- If you struggle with certain opponents who play a certain class, try it out for yourself. Its relatively easy to roll a new class -> level past the starting quest -> practice some on the practice NPCs -> enter (hotjoin) pvp. That way you can find out what their strengths and weaknesses are.
- Use spectate if you see certain good players (especially others who play your own class). Check what their build is, what their rotations are etc.
- Talk to players who have experience with pvp in this game. The GW2 community is great and there are a lot of nice people that are willing to help you out.
- Watch some streams of other people playing warrior. The most popular one that comes to mind is: http://www.twitch.tv/shinryuku_ku. He does everything in GW2 (including pvp), is quite friendly and helpful and has been playing warrior since beta.
- Read grouches beginner guide (if you didnt allready): https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/New-to-PvP-Start-here/first#post3420542

Really good tips from Locuz.

I just want to add, that currently the warrior is considered as one of the strongest professions out there.

If you want to see how it all looks at the competitive level maybe take a look at the latest ESL matches on Blues Channel www.youtube.com/user/DocterBlu/

On Jebros YouTube Channel ( www.youtube.com/user/UnityJebro/ ) you can find “GW2: Jebro’s Warrior DPS Hammer/Longbow build” this will help you getting started with a common good build for your warrior.

If you have problems against a specific profession, try to play it too. This will give you a lot of insight.

Teehee, I see what you did there, OP.
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you’re playing warrior wrong, consider rolling your face across the keyboard instead

Toraden.5321:

I bought this game about 4 days ago. Have to say pvp in this game favors stealthers and ranged classes only. The amount of dodges, escapes, stealth and healing for ranged classes in this game is insane compared to other mmorpgs.

I try to learn how to pvp as a melee warrior. I cannot close the distance and i rarely land a hit. I have no freaking idea which buffs, abilities my foes are using because they are all instant abilities and there aren’t enough visual indicators to know which ones they turned on. So far only abilities i know how to dodge are aoe abilities. Other than that i have no idea what the hell is going on. Unless there is a detailed guide to teach new players how to pvp in this game, i am done with this game.

Op go on youtube and watch some videos warriors are one of the strongest professions in spvp atm.

Teutos.8620:

Really good tips from Locuz.

I just want to add, that currently the warrior is considered as one of the strongest professions out there.

If you want to see how it all looks at the competitive level maybe take a look at the latest ESL matches on Blues Channel www.youtube.com/user/DocterBlu/

On Jebros YouTube Channel ( www.youtube.com/user/UnityJebro/ ) you can find “GW2: Jebro’s Warrior DPS Hammer/Longbow build” this will help you getting started with a common good build for your warrior.

If you have problems against a specific profession, try to play it too. This will give you a lot of insight.

of course you just couldn’t help but point him at the Cheese Build right off the bat.

I am not new to mmo. I am new to this type of dodging, blocking and kiting mmo where you can swap weapon whenever you want. My first mmo was SWTOR. I was pretty good at playing melee classes there. I was never good at ranged because i absolutely hate and suck at kiting. In this game melee classes rarely hit and you waste your skills if your target is out of range or they use dodge. I tried GS, hammer and dual wielding swords. None of them worked for me. I die in like only 2 or 3 hits from other classes. With healing signet on there is absolutely no way of healing yourself in such situation.

I’ve seen threads saying warrior is OP or viable. To me thief, phantasm mesmer are OP. Warrior seems like totally useless right now.

Writetyper.1985:

you’re playing warrior wrong, consider rolling your face across the keyboard instead

Bahahahaha, I’m sorry but that made me literally laugh out loud. I just pictured him actually rolling his face across his keyboard and winning.

Anyways, its because you’re new man, this game is SO different than SWTOR. You actually have to hit with your abilities and dodge to have them miss. So you have to take time to get used to that. I really sucked in the begi king as well. I’d first get into some PvE and WvW before you jump into PvP to get used to how the game plays and your class. You’ll soon be stomping everyone’s face with your warrior. Lookup different builds for warrior. You really have to take some time to get used to everything first, can’t expect to jump in and start owning everyone from the start. Warriors are the most powerful class at the moment and the easiest to learn so you picked a good first class. Stealth is not that great in sPvP as it doesn’t allow you to cap points. Thieves are nowhere near op and aren’t that great. Just give it some time to get used to and don’t jump into sPvP right away. Check out the warrior forums and ask for some pointers and you’ll get a bunch of help from them.

Well, the closest thing to a detailed guide is: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/New-to-PvP-Start-here/first#post3420542

After reading both your posts, I honestly think, not trying to be jerk, straight up, you just need to play more games and get used to the combat /all profession abilities. But if you are this frustrated already, probably GW 2 PvP is not for you.

I have meet and helped a LOT of players new to PvP, none of them have come back in the last 1.5 years. The brutal truth is the PvP in GW 2 is not that good (for various reasons), most people will not stick around after trying it.

Toraden.5321:

I bought this game about 4 days ago. Have to say pvp in this game favors stealthers and ranged classes only. The amount of dodges, escapes, stealth and healing for ranged classes in this game is insane compared to other mmorpgs.

I try to learn how to pvp as a melee warrior. I cannot close the distance and i rarely land a hit. I have no freaking idea which buffs, abilities my foes are using because they are all instant abilities and there aren’t enough visual indicators to know which ones they turned on. So far only abilities i know how to dodge are aoe abilities. Other than that i have no idea what the hell is going on. Unless there is a detailed guide to teach new players how to pvp in this game, i am done with this game.

So, you bought the game 4 days ago and you think you already fully understand what is broken or not? You are struggling as a new player and you want to quit already? What were you expecting, to come to the game and be beating people that have been playing 1 and half year? After playing for 4 days? Dumbest thread I’ve seen in awhile. Oh and guess what, warrior is the STRONGEST pvp class at the moment and the class with the most healing (non bunker). That alone should tell how much you really know about the game. The game has some flaws and is in a pretty bad shape, but saying you’re quitting after playing for 4 days because you are struggling to beat ranged players is ridiculous lol

Toraden.5321:

I bought this game about 4 days ago. Have to say pvp in this game favors stealthers and ranged classes only. The amount of dodges, escapes, stealth and healing for ranged classes in this game is insane compared to other mmorpgs.

I try to learn how to pvp as a melee warrior. I cannot close the distance and i rarely land a hit. I have no freaking idea which buffs, abilities my foes are using because they are all instant abilities and there aren’t enough visual indicators to know which ones they turned on. So far only abilities i know how to dodge are aoe abilities. Other than that i have no idea what the hell is going on. Unless there is a detailed guide to teach new players how to pvp in this game, i am done with this game.

I feel for ya, man. I had only played Warhammer online before coming to GW2 and PvP was a massively steep learning curve for me. It’ll take a little time to get used to watching for and recognizing boons or conditions on you and your opponent, and understanding what kind of build your going up against based on the class/weapons/etc your opponent uses, and the little tricks you’ll develop for taking on each of those with your chosen class/build. With that being said though, it’s totally worth it. The combat is addictive and fast paced, and it costs nothing to reroll a new class in PvP so the learning and experimenting never has to stop.

Some advice I might give would be:
- start slow – pick up a bunker or duelist build to begin with so you can slow down the game and give yourself time to recognize what you’re doing and what’s going on around you.
- try the other classes – anytime a class is giving you troubles/grief, make one of your own. Like i said it costs nothing, and you don’t have to master the class, just play a few matches with the build they were using just to get a sense of what they do, how they do it, how often they can do it, and what the animations looks like. This above all else will help you improve and understand the game play.

hang in there, and good luck

My entertainment for GW2 now is to troll skyhammer making new PVPer /uninstall the game.