Guild Wars 2

Today I wanted to re-read the rules of conduct of GW2 just for some fun. (yes… I have odd sense of fun) And then I noticed something quite interesting…..

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct/

The part 22.
“While participating in Plaver-vs-Player (PvP) gameplay, you will not participate in any form of match manipulation. Match manipulation is defined as any action taken to fix or manipulate the outcome of a match or alter or manipulate the rankings or ratings of the ladder. This also includes disrupting other people’s game experience by not actively participating in matches in good faith, a.k.a leeching.”

How many times have you seen this happen in pvp lately? There’s atleast one person in PvP or in tournament who refuses to play.

Atleast I will start reporting everyone who does not actively play in PvP (mainly solo and team queue) to support. I want them to do something about the fact that somebody refuses to play in these “competive” environment.

Another quote from the beginning:
“Please be aware that failure to comply with these rules of conduct may result in the termination of your Guild Wars 2 game account according to the Guild Wars 2 User Agreement.”

I also wanted to hear from the Anet itself – can we get that report button for AFK players in sPvP already so we can follow your rules of conduct better?

What do you think?

I’ve been reporting the farm servers for exploiting almost every day as well and sometimes even the players in it since the dev reply on the skyhammer farm thread.
That’s some serious manipulation in those servers.

Just like the old Red Resign day in gw1, people decide not to play pvp and just let the other team win, and arenanet was really clear about it not being allowed and they were banning people doing that as well.

Even after so many reports the servers are still there..
But have to do something while waiting in queue so it kind of became a daily routine

I get punished by Anet for standing up against afkers… So they’re not gonna do anything at all.

GW1 had the option to report leeching. Why can’t we be cool like a game made 10 years ago?

Anet invests in it’s PvP like minecraft invested in it’s graphics. I know that’s not what they said when they were in development, but it’s what they actually did.

It took a year for them to put in spectator, ladders, rankings… basics of esport PvP for this AAA esport PvP title. Most would argue the thing you’re asking for is yet another basic that should have probably been present at launch… so I’m going to say give them till the 3 year mark.

jakakettu.9083:

Today I wanted to re-read the rules of conduct of GW2 just for some fun. (yes… I have odd sense of fun) And then I noticed something quite interesting…..

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct/

The part 22.
“While participating in Plaver-vs-Player (PvP) gameplay, you will not participate in any form of match manipulation. Match manipulation is defined as any action taken to fix or manipulate the outcome of a match or alter or manipulate the rankings or ratings of the ladder. This also includes disrupting other people’s game experience by not actively participating in matches in good faith, a.k.a leeching.”

How many times have you seen this happen in pvp lately? There’s atleast one person in PvP or in tournament who refuses to play.

Atleast I will start reporting everyone who does not actively play in PvP (mainly solo and team queue) to support. I want them to do something about the fact that somebody refuses to play in these “competive” environment.

Another quote from the beginning:
“Please be aware that failure to comply with these rules of conduct may result in the termination of your Guild Wars 2 game account according to the Guild Wars 2 User Agreement.”

I also wanted to hear from the Anet itself – can we get that report button for AFK players in sPvP already so we can follow your rules of conduct better?

What do you think?

the link contains the word “legal”.

Probably won’t be enforced unless a lawyer starts a lawsuit because a player went AFK and cause emotional harm to their wealthy clients =]

jakakettu.9083:

Today I wanted to re-read the rules of conduct of GW2 just for some fun. (yes… I have odd sense of fun) And then I noticed something quite interesting…..

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct/

The part 22.
“While participating in Plaver-vs-Player (PvP) gameplay, you will not participate in any form of match manipulation. Match manipulation is defined as any action taken to fix or manipulate the outcome of a match or alter or manipulate the rankings or ratings of the ladder. This also includes disrupting other people’s game experience by not actively participating in matches in good faith, a.k.a leeching.”

How many times have you seen this happen in pvp lately? There’s atleast one person in PvP or in tournament who refuses to play.

Another quote from the beginning:
“Please be aware that failure to comply with these rules of conduct may result in the termination of your Guild Wars 2 game account according to the Guild Wars 2 User Agreement.”

I also wanted to hear from the Anet itself – can we get that report button for AFK players in sPvP already so we can follow your rules of conduct better?

What do you think?

Sorry but this manifest is crap, wroten in the early and naive days in which ArenaNet did belive that the game was tailored to make a huge success in the e-sport market -which, guess waht, didn’t happen at all!-.

As an example: the most blatant form of match manipulation is the matchmaking system, which is responsible of so many games started with 5 vs 4 even on Conquest mode. So Arenanet is responsible of a ton of matches played in unfair conditions (we were witness of some of them in the recent ToL matches).

Another example of match manipulating is to deliberately hide the ranks of the players, in order to prevent the players to known how much doomed is their fate from the start, due the matchmaking has no remorses in mixing low ranked random PvP players against high ranked conformed teams. The game hides those stats on purpose just to prevent intelligent players from leaving the countdown due they can easily notice when they just has no chance.

So, the game itself manipulates the matches in order to fill “x” slots, no matter how unfair is each roster and the disparity in dedicated time, w/l ratios, etc, between players, and end even don’t hesitates in starting a game with 1+ empty slots along minutes.

I didn’t saw too many leechers (at least in Conquest, in which I play 99% of the time). Instead which I mostly saw in terms of “afk’s” is mostly players which after 3-4 minutes palying in number disadvantage or being crushed by a much more experienced/organizated team just choses to drop the ball and no loger fight -which for me is FINE, given the current environment-.

To prevent this the best politics is to be crystal clear: let the players to see the ranks and stats of each player before the match, change the matchmaking to pair teams which can fight in fair conditions, refuse to start a mach if 1 or more slots are empty, and implement a surrender option to finish a match (with reward caps) for the ones in which the disparity is too large to be called “competitive” at all.

But don’t worry: probably none of those things will be done, so you can keep whinning about players in the forum instead of noticing the true origin of those faults (ArenaNet’s indifference).

ryston.7640:

Anet invests in it’s PvP like minecraft invested in it’s graphics. I know that’s not what they said when they were in development, but it’s what they actually did.

It took a year for them to put in spectator, ladders, rankings… basics of esport PvP for this AAA esport PvP title. Most would argue the thing you’re asking for is yet another basic that should have probably been present at launch… so I’m going to say give them till the 3 year mark.

Don’t insult minecraft graphics like this…

OP, we know you’re frustrated and your motives are good, but what kind of rule or enforcement would you make, and how would it improve the game (keyword “would”, not “could”/“should”)?

Ban AFKers and those people start putting in 1% effort to get around it. Ban 1% and people will now give 2%, along with the subjectivity of whether they were slacking, lagging, new, or bad. Along with the possibility of a false report.

Do you propose some minimum standard of performance or minimum Actions Per Minute or something? Have fun dealing with the casual camp if you do that.

data.4093:

GW1 had the option to report leeching. Why can’t we be cool like a game made 10 years ago?

Because it never did any good. The massive amounts of leechers that kept getting the Dishonorable hex turned into massive amounts of obvious bots. Nothing more fun then realizing most, or all, of your team in the Jade Quarry arena were bots. Every. Single. Match. PVP in GW1 wound up being unoffically dubbed “Bot Wars”.

GW1 PVP ruined all PVP for me in any MMO I might play. And judging by this thread, I’m glad I decided when I bought GW2 that I will never in a million years even attempt any kind of PVP in this game. Not even for special achievements and/or rewards.