Guild Wars 2

Seriously I can only play PvP in 1 hour bursts now before I get too angry at the game and stop.

I’ve never in any point of my GW2 life had this issue, the game is at a massive all-time low and lots of people are going to be leaving the game – even those who don’t certainly aren’t going to be recommending the game to anyone.

And everyone knows what problems there are with the game because there have been non-stop complaints on the forums since leagues.

Yup, looking at Pro Leagues stream alone, its quite cancerous to watch..

Almost no EU game comes to a 500-point ending, just because this meta is superduper stalemate.

Yeah… I was just thinking that. It used to be that I couldn’t wait to play every day and now I can’t even be bothered to log on. I’m trying to force myself to at least do the three matches for the daily thing, but honestly, I cba.

This game is horrible in the state it’s in, I don’t even see the Abjured members stream solo queue anymore, because it’s gotten that bad there really isn’t any skill left besides getting to a node before someone else does. The fights are pretty much always stalemate unless someone messes up. I didn’t expect to buy Fallout4 while it’s at 50$, but finally a game that I can play until this horrible meta gets fixed. I’ve never been so disappointed with the PvP staff of this game, and I’d almost say to fire them, with the amount of money they’ve wasted on their crappy meta. It didn’t help with advertising, and it definitely didn’t make any people who were playing before want to continue to play.

Last 20 games I’ve played I lost 13, the 7 I won were a miracle. No I was not on a win streak before this happened, I was maybe 55% win rate. Ruby is such a kitten fest, I hate it. Constantly being matched up against premades with 5 solo’s with an awful comp and getting smashed.

This is why you don’t play it. I don’t.

Anybody with even basic observational skills could have guessed that the game would become a fustercluck as soon as the expac launched. This is because history has shown that Anet is not very good at PvP balance. The game took 3 whole years to even reach a decent state. They take months and months to fix problems even while Leagues are out (lol).

It’s a joke. If the devs don’t care, I don’t see why the players should, either.

They’ve literally destroyed everything I enjoyed doing in this game.
PvP is dull and frustrating, WvW is empty and has turned into an extension of PvE, they killed solo/duo dungeons (which I very occasionally did if I needed gold).

Time to dig up my steam account…

^ PvP too has turned into an extension of PvE if we’re honest. The people I see having the most fun are pve players trying it for the backpack.

Worst part, there’s nothing else really decent to play until Overwatch comes out and Anet knows it and abuses it.

Yup, I used to love pvp, would solo queue all day, pick up with random people and just play.. But this Meta is just not fun. PvP is a miserable, painful experience. I want my money back

I don’t mind playing an underpowered spec, I really don’t. I’d just like a fighting chance with my spec (which used to be viable). I only go in for dailies now.

Half the builds I enjoyed playing died with the core specs update, and the other half died when HoT launched. If I didn’t want that kitten backpiece I don’t think I’d be logging in at all most days. PvP just isn’t fun anymore.

Yeah, no whining included, it’s lost a certain addictive nature to the pvp. When certain elements become frustrating, it’ll have an obvious negative outcome. Got about 3.5k games in and I have yet to log into mists in about 2 weeks.

I have to agree, PvP has never been as bad as it is now.

Totaly!! I am the angriest I have ever been in my life playing PvP right now. It is broken beyond belief. And I refuse to play the cheap kittening meta builds that everyone else runs because I have standard. Its broken! I’m not interested in killing DHs, I want to stand on the control point, but I cant without dying because of the traps. If I didn’t “have to” stand there it would be fine.

They need moving control points or something. right now that style of play is way to over powered because of the point system. sorry to say this but, Anet for kitten sacks fix this kittening piece of kitten game play so I can play for fun again and not hate everything and everyone, your game is destroying my mental well being. If I was not in a guild I would have given this up as soon as HoT came out.

I used to enjoy logging in, then June 23rd I was apprehensive of logging in, and post HoT I was terrified. Now I’m done. I’m finally at the point I log in, play 3, idgaf win or lose, then I log out. If I feel like playing PvE or trying something, I log in again but atm….. GG Thief is dead for players like me who aren’t even half decent at this game. Because we don’t play builds that play themselves. Yaaaay.

As frustrating as things have become in PvP, I still think you lot are being overly dramatic.
If you force yourself to play through something that infuriates you so much ~ You have only yourself to blame.

You people are ridiculous. The reason i never bought the expansion is because it was obvious that it would be against how i think the game should develop. The net effect of the devs efforts over the last 2 years has been extremely negative.

They have removed the ability to queue outside the mists
They removed mmr leaderboards
They removed solo queue
They removed the ability to see player ranks
They removed amulet jewels
They removed any rank progression when someone at anet (WHO must have no design experience) decided to just make everyone rank 80
They removed in game tournaments

And balance got worse and worse. And it will continue to get worse. Because they design things which are cool, not which are balanced and fun for the long term.

Your best hope should be anet never balance again. Because any maj8r changes they make will make things worse.

Gw2 is an interesting case study. Such a brilliantly designed game by the original devs. But butchered by the live team

You should of all predicted this and never bought the expansion. All you had to do was watch a few ready ups last year

Random Weird Guy.3528:

Seriously I can only play PvP in 1 hour bursts now before I get too angry at the game and stop.

I’ve never in any point of my GW2 life had this issue, the game is at a massive all-time low and lots of people are going to be leaving the game – even those who don’t certainly aren’t going to be recommending the game to anyone.

And everyone knows what problems there are with the game because there have been non-stop complaints on the forums since leagues.

1)There have been complaints since the launch of the game

2)There has been a doomsday prophet every week

3)Previous meta is always better in people eyes

And the universal law of MMO doesn’t change and never will :
What beats me is OP and what I play is balanced or UP always, when I lose I go on the forum asking for nerfs

It was Oct 2012..and there was already somebody saying

the game is at a massive all-time low

I thought the game was worse back when teams just stacked D/D Ele and shoutbow.

This is much better. Buff Thief and Warr some and slap some nerfs on Chrono and Tempest and its as good as its going to get.

Edit: Actually just Warr needs a buff, nerfing Chrono and Tempest should be enough of an indirect buff to Daredevil that it should warrant a spot on a team again.

this game is a snoozefest, double tempest double chronobunkers it’s a just a cluster kitten of immunes and cc’s with heals back to 100%, anyone who feels different either plays one of those classes or is a sadist.

Random Weird Guy.3528:

Seriously I can only play PvP in 1 hour bursts now before I get too angry at the game and stop.

I’ve never in any point of my GW2 life had this issue, the game is at a massive all-time low and lots of people are going to be leaving the game – even those who don’t certainly aren’t going to be recommending the game to anyone.

And everyone knows what problems there are with the game because there have been non-stop complaints on the forums since leagues.

I’m right there with you.

I have always kept my cool in games.. With GW2 PvP it’s been a very difficult to do that. I’ve had what was my favorite PC gaming experience completely destroyed. Got so angry I left the guild I was in. Essentially quit the game and returned to solo queue very casually only to deal with fits of rage. Will get 3-4 games of good teams, competent players then end up one pip away with some horrible configuration

E.g. three rangers, 1 warrior and me a dragon hunter, I asked if any of the rangers/druids would mind swapping to something else. They all refused, then they all refused to follow any strategy… I had the most points for our team and we still lost by over 150 points). When we got 60 points behind I pleaded with the team to follow a strategy (any strategy) but no one responded in team chat. Then at 120 points behind, again I tried. Nothing.. At that point I realized a few on my team were either trying to toss the match to lower MMR or were just horrible players.

We lost and I lost two pips. Then I knew MMR had determined we should have won that, at least one team member was trying to tank the match, no doubt. I cursed every member of the team. Then had to step away from the game. This happens to me every day.

We have every right to HATE ArenaNet for this meta and these poor decisions that got us here. Yes, the appropriate response is to just leave the game but when you love what the game was it’s very difficult to do that.

I’ve never experienced this level of rage in any game and that is not to ArenaNet’s credit. I really do hate the company for these changes. I do not believe it will ever get the priority it needs and I suspect I’ll keep going though this horrible cycle until I finally rage quit one last time and never sign back in.

I do acknowledge I’m the outlander, being one who loves the PvP side of the game much more than the PvE side, but I think ArenaNet should show more respect for this side of the game. I think the game studio should love it as much as we do.

If they did then they would be right there with us feeling the rage and hate and they would be more communicative. They have not been so I’m no longer hopeful.

Snorcha.7586:

this game is a snoozefest, double tempest double chronobunkers it’s a just a cluster kitten of immunes and cc’s with heals back to 100%, anyone who feels different either plays one of those classes or is a sadist.

Whenever I see this I switch to reaper. Otherwise the game is just tedious, win or lose I’m not having fun.

SamTheGuardian.2938:

Random Weird Guy.3528:

Seriously I can only play PvP in 1 hour bursts now before I get too angry at the game and stop.

I’ve never in any point of my GW2 life had this issue, the game is at a massive all-time low and lots of people are going to be leaving the game – even those who don’t certainly aren’t going to be recommending the game to anyone.

And everyone knows what problems there are with the game because there have been non-stop complaints on the forums since leagues.

I’m right there with you.

I have always kept my cool in games.. With GW2 PvP it’s been a very difficult to do that. I’ve had what was my favorite PC gaming experience completely destroyed. Got so angry I left the guild I was in. Essentially quit the game and returned to solo queue very casually only to deal with fits of rage. Will get 3-4 games of good teams, competent players then end up one pip away with some horrible configuration

E.g. three rangers, 1 warrior and me a dragon hunter, I asked if any of the rangers/druids would mind swapping to something else. They all refused, then they all refused to follow any strategy… I had the most points for our team and we still lost by over 150 points). When we got 60 points behind I pleaded with the team to follow a strategy (any strategy) but no one responded in team chat. Then at 120 points behind, again I tried. Nothing.. At that point I realized a few on my team were either trying to toss the match to lower MMR or were just horrible players.

We lost and I lost two pips. Then I knew MMR had determined we should have won that, at least one team member was trying to tank the match, no doubt. I cursed every member of the team. Then had to step away from the game. This happens to me every day.

We have every right to HATE ArenaNet for this meta and these poor decisions that got us here. Yes, the appropriate response is to just leave the game but when you love what the game was it’s very difficult to do that.

I’ve never experienced this level of rage in any game and that is not to ArenaNet’s credit. I really do hate the company for these changes. I do not believe it will ever get the priority it needs and I suspect I’ll keep going though this horrible cycle until I finally rage quit one last time and never sign back in.

I do acknowledge I’m the outlander, being one who loves the PvP side of the game much more than the PvE side, but I think ArenaNet should show more respect for this side of the game. I think the game studio should love it as much as we do.

If they did then they would be right there with us feeling the rage and hate and they would be more communicative. They have not been so I’m no longer hopeful.

I so recognize this too. It is so frustrating to show good will toward your teammate only for them to ignore questions like ‘who goes home’ or polite request like ‘plz let’s focus mid and home forget far’ (and one goes far) or ‘ignore beast plz’. When I see this and the -2pip I know someone kittened us up.

I so recognize this too. It is so frustrating to show good will toward your teammate only for them to ignore questions like ‘who goes home’ or polite request like ‘plz let’s focus mid and home forget far’ (and one goes far) or ‘ignore beast plz’. When I see this and the -2pip I know someone kittened us up.

When it happens I just see the smiling faces of Colin Johansen and Mike O’Brien. The thoughts that follow are from a pretty dark place….. Don’t want to feel this way, not even sure those are the right two people to be projecting towards but someone is certainly responsible.

Soooo glad i didnt pre-order HoT to “support the devs”. I barely do 2/3 games every few days, I miss playing this game but it aint fun anymore, sure i can pay $50 and play the kittenedly bloated new specs, but all the elements that make this game no longer fun are still there.

Lordrosicky.5813:

They have removed the ability to queue outside the mists
They removed mmr leaderboards
They removed solo queue
They removed the ability to see player ranks
They removed amulet jewels
They removed any rank progression when someone at anet (WHO must have no design experience) decided to just make everyone rank 80
They removed in game tournaments

Spot on…

I know I complain a lot, there was a time I tried to pour some positive feedback here, in fact I was enjoying HoT until Leagues. Losing progress is something incredibly rage inducing especially seeing players I walk all over in higher divisions then me.

I know I am not the best, I know I am not going to hit legendary. But I want something to show that I am not to be trifled with. I wanted to know where I stood in PvP as a whole. But exploits, people paying for carries, MMR Tankers, Premades vs Pugs and any sort of “status” I could obtain mean nothing. And the PvE crowed or new players wont know any difference.

In fact, my whole backing behind pvp was to find respect and hopefully a friend or two. I have mostly made enemies.

Supreme.3164:

And the universal law of MMO doesn’t change and never will :
What beats me is OP and what I play is balanced or UP always, when I lose I go on the forum asking for nerfs

So your going to hide behind your signature and ignore that classes are broken?Where is Thief? Crying in Shadow Refuge because the DH stole his lunch money and made fun of him for liking anime.

Where is Chronobunker, Rev and Ele? On point in the cool kidz club hanging out and telling everyone else they aren’t invited. Literally its high school all over….

Honestly I took a break of guild wars 2 im waiting for Black Desert to release i only hope they make the meta better by the end of January. The leauges did mess up balancing in away cause now that there is Esports matches they dont want to mess up the current meta to cater to the ESL Players

Aylpse.6280:

I know I complain a lot, there was a time I tried to pour some positive feedback here, in fact I was enjoying HoT until Leagues. Losing progress is something incredibly rage inducing especially seeing players I walk all over in higher divisions then me.

I know I am not the best, I know I am not going to hit legendary. But I want something to show that I am not to be trifled with. I wanted to know where I stood in PvP as a whole. But exploits, people paying for carries, MMR Tankers, Premades vs Pugs and any sort of “status” I could obtain mean nothing. And the PvE crowed or new players wont know any difference.

In fact, my whole backing behind pvp was to find respect and hopefully a friend or two. I have mostly made enemies.

Supreme.3164:

And the universal law of MMO doesn’t change and never will :
What beats me is OP and what I play is balanced or UP always, when I lose I go on the forum asking for nerfs

So your going to hide behind your signature and ignore that classes are broken?Where is Thief? Crying in Shadow Refuge because the DH stole his lunch money and made fun of him for liking anime.

Where is Chronobunker, Rev and Ele? On point in the cool kidz club hanging out and telling everyone else they aren’t invited. Literally its high school all over….

Thief is exactly where is supposed to be, nobody pity thieves except thieves themselves because remember that 3/4 of the professions can’t run a burst build in pvp because of thieves

This was the beginning, remember??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beHJkv5gaIU...the ele community surely does or do you want to ask top players the reason no other class other than thief was ever used as burst?

So the fact that thief “suffers” against tanky builds mean zero to me…if thieves would lose their apex predator of zerker status…things then would change

In the past I used PvP to relax, to pass time, now I can’t stop the ANGER, I am NOT having fun on mostly of matches, losing when I was 100% of the win, just because some crap builds that should not exist in the game, making everything extremely unfair and unbalanced, like being fighting for 2 minutes to see one noob wipe us with a crappy trap and spamming skill 1.

This is the WORST moment in GW2 PvP history for serious players than want to really play and enjoy the game, and not exploit unfair builds.

Supreme.3164:

Random Weird Guy.3528:

Seriously I can only play PvP in 1 hour bursts now before I get too angry at the game and stop.

I’ve never in any point of my GW2 life had this issue, the game is at a massive all-time low and lots of people are going to be leaving the game – even those who don’t certainly aren’t going to be recommending the game to anyone.

And everyone knows what problems there are with the game because there have been non-stop complaints on the forums since leagues.

1)There have been complaints since the launch of the game

2)There has been a doomsday prophet every week

3)Previous meta is always better in people eyes

And the universal law of MMO doesn’t change and never will :
What beats me is OP and what I play is balanced or UP always, when I lose I go on the forum asking for nerfs

It was Oct 2012..and there was already somebody saying

the game is at a massive all-time low

Thats because the game has got worse and worse. The previous meta was always slightly less terrible because the more time they get to develop the more uncounterable lame bs they add

On same boat here, waiting for BnS to come out and then i am out of here.

Absolutely boring, disgusting meta that nobody enjoys but noob clickers that can’t press 2 buttons and prefer to be carried by passives.

Matches are boring and no fun at all (regardless weither you win or not), Pro League is only worth to watch to help you fall asleep.

Thieves got completely butchered for the sake of bunker meta.

Soloq removed.

MMR wasn’t reset and entire pvp system just sucks: favors low mmr players, grinding, cheating and exploiting (why couldn’t they just copy paste working pvp systems from other games?)

Can’t q outside of HotM.

MF removed from HotM.

Dungeons got nerfed.

WvW died.

There is nothing left to do once you got new legendary :/

I used to love this game so much. It was my second favorite game (after original FF7), HoT made me hate it. I really don’t understand devs. It is not like feedback wasn’t there, it is not like we didn’t warn them for months that this will happen (at least about leagues). I guess some posts about muffins on reddit are better feedback about this game heh.

Lordrosicky.5813:

Supreme.3164:

Random Weird Guy.3528:

Seriously I can only play PvP in 1 hour bursts now before I get too angry at the game and stop.

I’ve never in any point of my GW2 life had this issue, the game is at a massive all-time low and lots of people are going to be leaving the game – even those who don’t certainly aren’t going to be recommending the game to anyone.

And everyone knows what problems there are with the game because there have been non-stop complaints on the forums since leagues.

1)There have been complaints since the launch of the game

2)There has been a doomsday prophet every week

3)Previous meta is always better in people eyes

And the universal law of MMO doesn’t change and never will :
What beats me is OP and what I play is balanced or UP always, when I lose I go on the forum asking for nerfs

It was Oct 2012..and there was already somebody saying

the game is at a massive all-time low

Thats because the game has got worse and worse. The previous meta was always slightly less terrible because the more time they get to develop the more uncounterable lame bs they add

The meta become worst and worst because the devs keep listening to selfish QQ thread over the forum that leads always to overnerfs and overbuffs.
In their senseless quest for balance Anet always add some overbuffs to compensate overnerfs (elementalist is a clear example)

Im having a blast in PvP, i just sit in water and rotate my 7 auras while the team does the rest!

Supreme.3164:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Supreme.3164:

Random Weird Guy.3528:

Seriously I can only play PvP in 1 hour bursts now before I get too angry at the game and stop.

I’ve never in any point of my GW2 life had this issue, the game is at a massive all-time low and lots of people are going to be leaving the game – even those who don’t certainly aren’t going to be recommending the game to anyone.

And everyone knows what problems there are with the game because there have been non-stop complaints on the forums since leagues.

1)There have been complaints since the launch of the game

2)There has been a doomsday prophet every week

3)Previous meta is always better in people eyes

And the universal law of MMO doesn’t change and never will :
What beats me is OP and what I play is balanced or UP always, when I lose I go on the forum asking for nerfs

It was Oct 2012..and there was already somebody saying

the game is at a massive all-time low

Thats because the game has got worse and worse. The previous meta was always slightly less terrible because the more time they get to develop the more uncounterable lame bs they add

The meta become worst and worst because the devs keep listening to selfish QQ thread over the forum that leads always to overnerfs and overbuffs.
In their senseless quest for balance Anet always add some overbuffs to compensate overnerfs (elementalist is a clear example)

Irrelevent. They are the professionals, they should be good enough at game design to create specs that are fun to play with and against.

Lordrosicky.5813:

Supreme.3164:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Supreme.3164:

Random Weird Guy.3528:

Seriously I can only play PvP in 1 hour bursts now before I get too angry at the game and stop.

I’ve never in any point of my GW2 life had this issue, the game is at a massive all-time low and lots of people are going to be leaving the game – even those who don’t certainly aren’t going to be recommending the game to anyone.

And everyone knows what problems there are with the game because there have been non-stop complaints on the forums since leagues.

1)There have been complaints since the launch of the game

2)There has been a doomsday prophet every week

3)Previous meta is always better in people eyes

And the universal law of MMO doesn’t change and never will :
What beats me is OP and what I play is balanced or UP always, when I lose I go on the forum asking for nerfs

It was Oct 2012..and there was already somebody saying

the game is at a massive all-time low

Thats because the game has got worse and worse. The previous meta was always slightly less terrible because the more time they get to develop the more uncounterable lame bs they add

The meta become worst and worst because the devs keep listening to selfish QQ thread over the forum that leads always to overnerfs and overbuffs.
In their senseless quest for balance Anet always add some overbuffs to compensate overnerfs (elementalist is a clear example)

Irrelevent. They are the professionals, they should be good enough at game design to create specs that are fun to play with and against.

This is historical moment when i actually agree with Lord for once.

I don’t find it that bad after fixes to bunker chrono. Was way worse.

It’s kitten.

Seriously, If I knew PvP in this game sucks so bad, I’d never buy it and I’ll probably never recommend it to the friends now, unless all they want is PvE which is awesome in this game. I mained thief before HoT release and decided to try out revenant just because I liked the overall theme of the class…gotta admit if I didn’t I’d probably go crazy with thief in sPvP by this time. Boring, template copy-paste kittenfest of the same classes with the same builds with kitten ton of autoprocs and invulnerabilities. So mean
We used to have two or even three teams for spvp last season, this season however…I find myself playing it alone most of the time because so many people just ragequit and refuse to play those cheesy broken builds.

Oh well finishes 3 daily matches, opens up a PS4 and plays some fighting games

Random Weird Guy.3528:

Seriously I can only play PvP in 1 hour bursts now before I get too angry at the game and stop.

I’ve never in any point of my GW2 life had this issue, the game is at a massive all-time low and lots of people are going to be leaving the game – even those who don’t certainly aren’t going to be recommending the game to anyone.

And everyone knows what problems there are with the game because there have been non-stop complaints on the forums since leagues.

It’s pretty bad right now.
Might as well call it a career and play something that is actually fun.

All of these autodefenses, immune frames, and plain powercreep from some of the elite specs is really not fun to play against.

Will Stronghold be MLG? At least Doorbreakers don’t have that many evade frames.

Supreme.3164:

Aylpse.6280:

I know I complain a lot, there was a time I tried to pour some positive feedback here, in fact I was enjoying HoT until Leagues. Losing progress is something incredibly rage inducing especially seeing players I walk all over in higher divisions then me.

I know I am not the best, I know I am not going to hit legendary. But I want something to show that I am not to be trifled with. I wanted to know where I stood in PvP as a whole. But exploits, people paying for carries, MMR Tankers, Premades vs Pugs and any sort of “status” I could obtain mean nothing. And the PvE crowed or new players wont know any difference.

In fact, my whole backing behind pvp was to find respect and hopefully a friend or two. I have mostly made enemies.

Supreme.3164:

And the universal law of MMO doesn’t change and never will :
What beats me is OP and what I play is balanced or UP always, when I lose I go on the forum asking for nerfs

So your going to hide behind your signature and ignore that classes are broken?Where is Thief? Crying in Shadow Refuge because the DH stole his lunch money and made fun of him for liking anime.

Where is Chronobunker, Rev and Ele? On point in the cool kidz club hanging out and telling everyone else they aren’t invited. Literally its high school all over….

Thief is exactly where is supposed to be, nobody pity thieves except thieves themselves because remember that 3/4 of the professions can’t run a burst build in pvp because of thieves

This was the beginning, remember??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beHJkv5gaIU...the ele community surely does or do you want to ask top players the reason no other class other than thief was ever used as burst?

So the fact that thief “suffers” against tanky builds mean zero to me…if thieves would lose their apex predator of zerker status…things then would change

Lets start with the fact that A) I am not a Thief.
B) This seems like pent upThief QQ from pre HoT.

Supreme.3164:

And the universal law of MMO doesn’t change and never will :
What beats me is OP and what I play is balanced or UP always, when I lose I go on the forum asking for nerfs

C) Thief has been a staple of the meta due to mobility, seeing it pushed out is honestly depressing.
D) >Video from 2012

Your stance is defending Chronobunker and Ele then? Do you forget ESL so quickly? Unlike others here, I dont want a bust meta. I want a Balanced meta with multiple playstyles and verity. This meta is the “first cap is gg” meta. And “Heal Winions” meta. For respective gamemodes.

not letting this die, Anets needs to read this and fix it or 2016 will be known as the death of GW2, as far was PvP goes. I did love this game, I don’t want to see it put out to seed, or butchered to death.