Threads like these frustrate me. You need exclusivity in a PvP to bolster competition and facilitate an environment where people have something over the horizon to reach for. If you just give everything to everyone, your players are just going to get bored and quit. Seeing good players wearing this armor around in the mist is going to give the casuals something to aim for. Maybe they know that they won’t get it in a month or even a year, but it’s something that could keep them interested in the game for an extended period of time. (think like glad mounts in WoW or ranked summoner icons in LoL).
Furthermore, I don’t think you understand the amount of resources required for drawing/modeling an armor set into a video game. Design and texturing takes artistic skill, but it doesn’t take a whole lot of people or time to actually put a single item together in a 3d modeling software and render it into the game (I used to play around with 3d modeling/printing software a bit when I was in high school, made some pretty l33t swords). So stop crying like they pulled 1/2 of the entire art team off of living world for a year to create 2 armor sets.
A casual will never get it. Most non-casuals will never get it either.
If they do 2 of those tournaments per year, each with giving out 15 of those then there will be less than 100 in 3 years from now.
It is content created for for 90 people by then. You won’t even see it ingame.
Comparing it to an icon is rediculous. Your previous expertise is also not helping as a weapon is much easier to create than an armor. And they created 8-10 armors not 2. 8 if Sylvari can use the same armor as humans otherwise 10.
The PvP community got 2 armor sets in 2 years, and 50% of those is locked behind those rediculous requirements.
If we have gotten like 100 different things in PvP and they add number 101 as an exclusive reward for tournaments… fine. But we don’t get alot of content. That few bits we get should not be locked away from the majority.
Pve’ers will just join the skyhammer farm servers to hit eachother and fall down repeatedly to get their special pvp armor. Anet really has to do something about those servers.
I just made a post about this, and as someone who has a high chance of winning it, I agree with the OP but would like to reword it differently. There do need to be exclusive armor sets for those who do well at their mode of choosing, such as PvP.
What needs to be done is, tournies should be focused more on cash prizes/some exclusive items/exclusive finishers/exclusive anything. But anet needs to really try to let such items with high prestige be obtained in game by using Leagues/Good Leaderboards/Ladders and NOT tournaments. A few of the top teams will win the tourney most of the time which will get stale and almost a waste of exclusive items. So items such as these would’ve been better implemented if there is some sort of way they can be obtained by doing well in team que/solo que with a good system, which would give those who do not wish to participate in tournies, or want to get better overtime to possibly win these. It will also give top teams who maybe don’t wish to obtain the armor anymore to not team que anymore if there is no need, and let other teams win to obtain it.
“Morfeus X” || Team: Apex Prime
“Best Guardian NA”
Like I’m pretty good and think I should have a shot at some armor. But I can’t, cause Morfeus here is gonna have like 10 sets from the next 10 tourneys.
Like I’m pretty good and think I should have a shot at some armor. But I can’t, cause Morfeus here is gonna have like 10 sets from the next 10 tourneys.
And this is exactly what I want to avoid
I think if they want to keep doing or having sets for tournies, there needs to be a middleground. A set for winning tournies but ALSO a set doing well in team ques with a good system, and then a set for the reward track. That would suffice for now I think.
“Morfeus X” || Team: Apex Prime
“Best Guardian NA”
I will likely never own a Lamborghini or Ferrari in my lifetime. It doesn’t mean I’ll stop working hard at my job, or write the CEOs of each company to complain about that fact…
Hackkz/Riggamaroll
I’ve stayed at this party entirely too long
I will likely never own a Lamborghini or Ferrari in my lifetime. It doesn’t mean I’ll stop working hard at my job, or write the CEOs of each company to complain about that fact…
Your comparison is terrible. Pvp is a competition in order achieve something whether that be prestige, items, etc…for being good at it.. But there is nothin to work for unless you are the top, and this is only when tournies are around, which is so stupid. This is an MMO and not the NBA playoffs. You rely on people to play your game as an MMO developer, so you need to give them reason to. They don’t have a community therefore they need to work on getting one by also catering, but I’m a competitive way, to casual, semi competitive, and hardcore.
“Morfeus X” || Team: Apex Prime
“Best Guardian NA”
I will likely never own a Lamborghini or Ferrari in my lifetime. It doesn’t mean I’ll stop working hard at my job, or write the CEOs of each company to complain about that fact…
Your comparison is terrible. Pvp is a competition in order achieve something whether that be prestige, items, etc…for being good at it.. But there is nothin to work for unless you are the top, and this is only when tournies are around, which is so stupid. This is an MMO and not the NBA playoffs. You rely on people to play your game as an MMO developer, so you need to give them reason to. They don’t have a community therefore they need to work on getting one by also catering, but I’m a competitive way, to casual, semi competitive, and hardcore.
The analogy was in reference to the OP, where they essentially asked that the most exclusive reward PvP is going to offer to be made available simply for showing up – which is, as I see it, exactly why this game doesn’t have a lot of competitive play at the moment. None of the rewards actually require winning or playing well.
my apologies for not making that more clear
Hackkz/Riggamaroll
I’ve stayed at this party entirely too long
I will likely never own a Lamborghini or Ferrari in my lifetime. It doesn’t mean I’ll stop working hard at my job, or write the CEOs of each company to complain about that fact…
Your comparison is terrible. Pvp is a competition in order achieve something whether that be prestige, items, etc…for being good at it.. But there is nothin to work for unless you are the top, and this is only when tournies are around, which is so stupid. This is an MMO and not the NBA playoffs. You rely on people to play your game as an MMO developer, so you need to give them reason to. They don’t have a community therefore they need to work on getting one by also catering, but I’m a competitive way, to casual, semi competitive, and hardcore.
The analogy was in reference to the OP, where they essentially asked that the most exclusive reward PvP is going to offer to be made available simply for showing up – which is, as I see it, exactly why this game doesn’t have a lot of competitive play at the moment. None of the rewards actually require winning or playing well.
my apologies for not making that more clear
Where did I write this? Please quote where I wrote that you should just show up to obtain that armor.
I will likely never own a Lamborghini or Ferrari in my lifetime. It doesn’t mean I’ll stop working hard at my job, or write the CEOs of each company to complain about that fact…
Your comparison is terrible. Pvp is a competition in order achieve something whether that be prestige, items, etc…for being good at it.. But there is nothin to work for unless you are the top, and this is only when tournies are around, which is so stupid. This is an MMO and not the NBA playoffs. You rely on people to play your game as an MMO developer, so you need to give them reason to. They don’t have a community therefore they need to work on getting one by also catering, but I’m a competitive way, to casual, semi competitive, and hardcore.
The analogy was in reference to the OP, where they essentially asked that the most exclusive reward PvP is going to offer to be made available simply for showing up – which is, as I see it, exactly why this game doesn’t have a lot of competitive play at the moment. None of the rewards actually require winning or playing well.
my apologies for not making that more clear
Where did I write this? Please quote where I wrote that you should just show up to obtain that armor.
Or are there plans to actually make really big open tournaments. And with big I mean in the 100k+ participants, and everyone gets the armor regardless of whether they came far or not.
Hackkz/Riggamaroll
I’ve stayed at this party entirely too long
I will likely never own a Lamborghini or Ferrari in my lifetime. It doesn’t mean I’ll stop working hard at my job, or write the CEOs of each company to complain about that fact…
Your comparison is terrible. Pvp is a competition in order achieve something whether that be prestige, items, etc…for being good at it.. But there is nothin to work for unless you are the top, and this is only when tournies are around, which is so stupid. This is an MMO and not the NBA playoffs. You rely on people to play your game as an MMO developer, so you need to give them reason to. They don’t have a community therefore they need to work on getting one by also catering, but I’m a competitive way, to casual, semi competitive, and hardcore.
The analogy was in reference to the OP, where they essentially asked that the most exclusive reward PvP is going to offer to be made available simply for showing up – which is, as I see it, exactly why this game doesn’t have a lot of competitive play at the moment. None of the rewards actually require winning or playing well.
my apologies for not making that more clear
Where did I write this? Please quote where I wrote that you should just show up to obtain that armor.
Or are there plans to actually make really big open tournaments. And with big I mean in the 100k+ participants, and everyone gets the armor regardless of whether they came far or not.
And everyone can see that this was exaggeration as a 100k participants tournament would never work… well except you.
