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Glory for WvW gear
Get anet to set something up so players can trade glory for gems and glory for gold. Problem solved?
Well, admittedly the glory to anything conversion rate would probably be kitten all though.
They mean it to be a completely separate game.
I think it’s weird, myself, but there it is.
If people can’t trade in their WvW and PvE “experience” for better sPvP gear, why should the opposite be true?
I’d frankly much prefer they just had a battlegrounds/scenario system like WoW or Warhammer Online. (And also they need to stop pretending this is the most important part of the game because most people aren’t going for it…) But they ripped this out of MOBA-land where everything’s supposed to be “fair”-ish and it has it’s own seperate progression for that reason.
Having done both WvW and sPvP/tPvP I also wish there was a way to have my glory transfer over. I’ve already completely geared my thief for WvW but I would have had FAR more fun doing it with glory as I prefer PvP to PvE completely. Glory→Gold/gems would be ideal, but until then I guess I have to settle for dyes. The problem with that is I get tired of spamming the forge. I wish we could just ‘save’ a recipe and make it without having to manually place the parts in the forge! /lazy
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Get anet to set something up so players can trade glory for gems and glory for gold. Problem solved?
Well, admittedly the glory to anything conversion rate would probably be kitten all though.
Yes something like this would be ideal.
Its great that spvp/tpvp is a totalled gear-normalized forum for pvp- that is one of the defining things about guild wars and is the main reason I bought the game. However, cutting the spvp game off completely from the rest of the game is not fun and a disincentive for me to play.
You’re moving into WvW without reaching above level 22 and you think your gear and level are the big barriers to being competitive? Level to 80 in WvW, in that time you will learn the basics of the arena, become familair with your server guilds, commanders and coverage times and accumulate enough badges to be well on your way to having a full set.
Already it’s easier to obtain some skins and stats via WvW than it is in normal PvE, I don’t want more incentives to abandon PvE for PvP arenas. WvW uses PvE gear, you shouldn’t be earning PvE gear in PvP.
Expecting them to treat WvW the same as sPvP shows how little you understand the purpose of WvW. I can’t buy sPvP gear with PvE currency, it shouldn’t be the other way around.
Just glory for gold or gems. Problem solved…pve/wvsw ppl have lots of gold and gems and they can shop stuff with them, and we’re still fighting for worthless glory and we can’t do kitten with it since gems are the universal currency and we can’t get them in any way..
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You’re moving into WvW without reaching above level 22 and you think your gear and level are the big barriers to being competitive? Level to 80 in WvW, in that time you will learn the basics of the arena, become familair with your server guilds, commanders and coverage times and accumulate enough badges to be well on your way to having a full set.
Already it’s easier to obtain some skins and stats via WvW than it is in normal PvE, I don’t want more incentives to abandon PvE for PvP arenas. WvW uses PvE gear, you shouldn’t be earning PvE gear in PvP.
Expecting them to treat WvW the same as sPvP shows how little you understand the purpose of WvW. I can’t buy sPvP gear with PvE currency, it shouldn’t be the other way around.
You are acting as if there even are any reasons to do sPvP over PvE. If it’s about “showing off armor” which is supposedly the endgame for GW2 you can’t even do that. You can’t walk around in your armor earned in sPvP in a big city or something. Also, you can’t transmute it onto PvE gear. The only “showing off” you can do as a sPvPer is to those 5 people in Heart of the Mists.
They need to integrate the different game modes more so people actually interact with each other rather than keeping it completely separate. I’m sure it’s doable without giving any unequal advantage to someone (For example requiring a certain rank before you can wear your armor in PvE world, and having PvP and PvE sets separate) That way you only get people that have put in the amount of time that it takes to get exotics anyways to walk around in PvP armor
IMO glory acquisition should be changed before glory becomes anything remotely serious, otherwise it’s just gonna reward hotjoin heroes for zerging instead of tournament PvP.
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IMO glory acquisition should be changed before glory becomes anything remotely serious, otherwise it’s just gonna reward hotjoin heroes for zerging instead of tournament PvP.
this, right now, glory dont have very high value…
Get anet to set something up so players can trade glory for gems and glory for gold. Problem solved?
Well, admittedly the glory to anything conversion rate would probably be kitten all though.
Yeah I think anet should do this.
I was going to mention glory for levels but that might be too far.
But its kinda sad when you want to spend pvp glory on PvE stuff, it just shows you that pvp stuff is really easy to get, or theres not much incentive to actually buy whats available.
You’re moving into WvW without reaching above level 22 and you think your gear and level are the big barriers to being competitive? Level to 80 in WvW, in that time you will learn the basics of the arena, become familair with your server guilds, commanders and coverage times and accumulate enough badges to be well on your way to having a full set.
Already it’s easier to obtain some skins and stats via WvW than it is in normal PvE, I don’t want more incentives to abandon PvE for PvP arenas. WvW uses PvE gear, you shouldn’t be earning PvE gear in PvP.
Expecting them to treat WvW the same as sPvP shows how little you understand the purpose of WvW. I can’t buy sPvP gear with PvE currency, it shouldn’t be the other way around.
Yes my gear and level is what stops me from being competative in WvW. There is of course great value in having a deep understanding and experience of how WvW works overall, but without level cap and good gear/food etc I am just a fly on the wall no matter how skilled or experienced I am.
You can’t buy spvp gear with wvw currency, but that does not stop you from competing on a level playing field when you decide to enter spvp. I never even spent one bit of glory until last month after playing spvp/tpvp constantly since launch. I think it would be fine if you could buy spvp “gear” (skins) with your pve currency. I don’t care one iota about it.
I don’t know what your problem is to be honest. There are people like you that enjoy pve and that’s great; then there are people like me that just go insane when we are forced to do that crap so we can pvp competitively. I love pvp but my 5-600 or so hours of playing spvp/tpvp has absolutely no impact on my progress on the rest of the game. If you can’t relate to that I wonder why you are even on the spvp forum, go troll the pve ones.
When you’re low level, grinding in wvw isn’t optimum. The rewards are scaled to your level, so in the end it takes the same amount of time to go from level 9 to 10 as it is to go from 79-80. I’d recommend you do crafting at low level if you have the gold to spend, which will let you skip out all the boring low level stuff, then get some map completions for the level 30-50 zones. After that, grind the rest in wvw, and also complete the orr maps because they are fast and easy and give good rewards. You can level up a new toon to 80 within a week or two doing this and come out 5-6g richer. The rest of your gear can be bought with karma which is really easy to earn from the wvw grind. If you’re level 80 and really need gold, you can just find a group farming CoF path 1 at gw2lfg.com and within an hour, you can easily get up to 3-5g without much effort.
The point I’m trying to make is, pve is incredibly easy especially for someone already skilled at spvp. It shouldn’t be an issue for you to be quickly geared if you ever decide to venture out into the pve world, and more importantly the levelling experience is fun and rewarding as well.
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I also don’t see a problem for pvp currency to buy pve gear or pve currency to buy pvp skins.
When you’re low level, grinding in wvw isn’t optimum. The rewards are scaled to your level, so in the end it takes the same amount of time to go from level 9 to 10 as it is to go from 79-80. I’d recommend you do crafting at low level if you have the gold to spend, which will let you skip out all the boring low level stuff, then get some map completions for the level 30-50 zones. After that, grind the rest in wvw, and also complete the orr maps because they are fast and easy and give good rewards. You can level up a new toon to 80 within a week or two doing this and come out 5-6g richer. The rest of your gear can be bought with karma which is really easy to earn from the wvw grind. If you’re level 80 and really need gold, you can just find a group farming CoF path 1 at gw2lfg.com and within an hour, you can easily get up to 3-5g without much effort.
The point I’m trying to make is, pve is incredibly easy especially for someone already skilled at spvp. It shouldn’t be an issue for you to be quickly geared if you ever decide to venture out into the pve world, and more importantly the levelling experience is fun and rewarding as well.
This is good advice. But hard for me because I get so bored with pve. At least now at level 40 there are some people that I can beat in wvw (players that have absolutely no clue or are lower level/gear than me).
Those 5-600 hours in spvp/tpvp were the most fun I’ve had in any mmo. I just wish that there was something, someway, that those hours transferred across to the other elements of the game. What about some crafting? Like you get special tokens from spvp/tpvp that let you craft great wvw gear.
The thing is you can come into spvp after spending 100s of hours in pve/wvw and immediately enjoy the game-you will have picked up most of the fighting skills and learning the maps and spvp strategies only takes 10 hours or so. But the opposite is not true. All those hours in spvp mean nothing to the rest of the game.
Sure for me the main reason I played so much spvp was that is great fun; but it would be nice to have some reward to go with the fun and it would be great to see spvp tied in with the rest of the game in a sensible way, not just as an isolated/ tacked on mini game.
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Well, admittedly the glory to anything conversion rate would probably be kitten all though.
It would only be bad because players spent all this time accumulating it since there was nothing to use it on. Anet “economists” would make their decision based on a huge influx, rather than how slow it is to actually grind. At best, glory is 2k an hour? That’s an over-estimate in my opinion.
[quote=1567239;Lexie.5894:] My PVP experience is very consistent. I run around,
I fight people, sometimes they kill me, sometimes I kill them. Fun is had by all. [/quote]
I fight people, sometimes they kill me, sometimes I kill them. Fun is had by all. [/quote]
Well, admittedly the glory to anything conversion rate would probably be kitten all though.
It would only be bad because players spent all this time accumulating it since there was nothing to use it on. Anet “economists” would make their decision based on a huge influx, rather than how slow it is to actually grind. At best, glory is 2k an hour? That’s an over-estimate in my opinion.
I guess if you really tried you could do that, which may be a reason why Anet decided to cut the spvp game off from the rest of the game.
The point is atm there seems to be no real incentive to keep playing spvp- yes it is awesome fun and for the first 5-600 hours that was enough to carry me-so kudos for doing such a great job there devs!
However, it is depressing when you spend that much time in spvp/tpvp and cannot leverage anything from that time to help you in other aspects of the game- particularly the other pvp game mode.
This is actually a really good idea to me, PvP players should have a fighting chance in WvW because it’s also PvP, but they don’t because of the amount of gold you have to raise.
HOWEVER: The glory system needs an overhaul first. Game needs to reward winning with glory because getting glory and winning are not in cohesion right now; prime example is that you only need one person to cap a point but you have to be on that point the whole time to get the rank points/glory, resulting in a bunch of people sitting on the point. God forbid if they actually made glory USEFUL, all you’d see is people zerging about in a merry-go-round.
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You’re moving into WvW without reaching above level 22 and you think your gear and level are the big barriers to being competitive? Level to 80 in WvW, in that time you will learn the basics of the arena, become familair with your server guilds, commanders and coverage times and accumulate enough badges to be well on your way to having a full set.
Already it’s easier to obtain some skins and stats via WvW than it is in normal PvE, I don’t want more incentives to abandon PvE for PvP arenas. WvW uses PvE gear, you shouldn’t be earning PvE gear in PvP.
Expecting them to treat WvW the same as sPvP shows how little you understand the purpose of WvW. I can’t buy sPvP gear with PvE currency, it shouldn’t be the other way around.
You are acting as if there even are any reasons to do sPvP over PvE. If it’s about “showing off armor” which is supposedly the endgame for GW2 you can’t even do that. You can’t walk around in your armor earned in sPvP in a big city or something. Also, you can’t transmute it onto PvE gear. The only “showing off” you can do as a sPvPer is to those 5 people in Heart of the Mists.
They need to integrate the different game modes more so people actually interact with each other rather than keeping it completely separate. I’m sure it’s doable without giving any unequal advantage to someone (For example requiring a certain rank before you can wear your armor in PvE world, and having PvP and PvE sets separate) That way you only get people that have put in the amount of time that it takes to get exotics anyways to walk around in PvP armor
If that is the case, then you certainly understand that PvE players want their PvE skins to be usable in sPvP…right? Okay good!
PvE players get to use all their skins in sPvP, and sPvP players get to use all their skins in PvE after a certain rank. Sounds like a glorious plan!
If that is the case, then you certainly understand that PvE players want their PvE skins to be usable in sPvP…right? Okay good!
PvE players get to use all their skins in sPvP, and sPvP players get to use all their skins in PvE after a certain rank. Sounds like a glorious plan!
Personally I don’t care about skins.
I care about being able to play the game, and having my hundreds of hours of gameplay rewarded across the game.
The point is if I had spent 600 hours in PVE or WvW I would likely have a couple of toons at level cap, heaps of gold, the best weapons and armor and crafting skills levelled up. All of which has a huge impact on what you can do and the fun you can have in WvW and PvE. The skins have no impact on spvp-you can play on equal terms and have equal fun in your starter skin or your paid tourney skins.
I have had a great time in spvp, which is most important of course, but nothing to show for it. When I try and do WvW I have as much resources as someone who just started the game. It is weird, disheartening, and demotivating that someone who has played regularly since launch and put nearly all their time into spvp has one gold and 300,000 of useless glory to their name.
Its the way GW1 was structured too though, kind of a key part of the model and system that defines guild wars franchise. In GW1 you picked either PVP or PVE char. Your PVP char would get instant max level, gear, and be able to roll with people in pvp without handicap. Your PVE toon actually was handicapped in PVP until he got max level, skills, etc. The catch was your PVP toon could never participate in PVE.
They basically improved on that concept here by allowing you to use 1 character for both roles, and separating the playing area with heart of the mists. However, anything you earn in Spvp/heart of the mists is not supposed to be transferable to GW2 PVE side. The whole system of instant level 80, free runes, etc, is meant to allow players to jump in and play the game without grind, its a huge selling point. I understand the desire, and wish in one hand too, to be able to take some of that Spvp effort and move it into Pve realm but its just not this game.. on the bright side you still get to /rank and show off!
Its the way GW1 was structured too though, kind of a key part of the model and system that defines guild wars franchise. In GW1 you picked either PVP or PVE char. Your PVP char would get instant max level, gear, and be able to roll with people in pvp without handicap. Your PVE toon actually was handicapped in PVP until he got max level, skills, etc. The catch was your PVP toon could never participate in PVE.
They basically improved on that concept here by allowing you to use 1 character for both roles, and separating the playing area with heart of the mists. However, anything you earn in Spvp/heart of the mists is not supposed to be transferable to GW2 PVE side. The whole system of instant level 80, free runes, etc, is meant to allow players to jump in and play the game without grind, its a huge selling point. I understand the desire, and wish in one hand too, to be able to take some of that Spvp effort and move it into Pve realm but its just not this game.. on the bright side you still get to /rank and show off!
Thanks for pointing that out, I won’t go on about it anymore in that case.
Just a quick question though-I tried to /rank in wvw (so I could show off) but nothing happened, does it work in pve/wvw or only in spvp? (Maybe I’m doing it wrong?)
You’re moving into WvW without reaching above level 22 and you think your gear and level are the big barriers to being competitive? Level to 80 in WvW, in that time you will learn the basics of the arena, become familair with your server guilds, commanders and coverage times and accumulate enough badges to be well on your way to having a full set.
Already it’s easier to obtain some skins and stats via WvW than it is in normal PvE, I don’t want more incentives to abandon PvE for PvP arenas. WvW uses PvE gear, you shouldn’t be earning PvE gear in PvP.
Expecting them to treat WvW the same as sPvP shows how little you understand the purpose of WvW. I can’t buy sPvP gear with PvE currency, it shouldn’t be the other way around.
You are acting as if there even are any reasons to do sPvP over PvE. If it’s about “showing off armor” which is supposedly the endgame for GW2 you can’t even do that. You can’t walk around in your armor earned in sPvP in a big city or something. Also, you can’t transmute it onto PvE gear. The only “showing off” you can do as a sPvPer is to those 5 people in Heart of the Mists.
They need to integrate the different game modes more so people actually interact with each other rather than keeping it completely separate. I’m sure it’s doable without giving any unequal advantage to someone (For example requiring a certain rank before you can wear your armor in PvE world, and having PvP and PvE sets separate) That way you only get people that have put in the amount of time that it takes to get exotics anyways to walk around in PvP armor
If that is the case, then you certainly understand that PvE players want their PvE skins to be usable in sPvP…right? Okay good!
PvE players get to use all their skins in sPvP, and sPvP players get to use all their skins in PvE after a certain rank. Sounds like a glorious plan!
Yes, I think that’s a good plan. Would allow a person to progress whichever way he/she wants to.
This is a HORRIBLE idea. Do you realize how many bots there are in wow battlegrounds? If Anything is made significant in any other part of the game, the same thing would happen here.