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Another month of feirce competition from across the globe, but here we are at the Go4GuildWars2 January Monthly Finals! The action begins February 4th at 19:00 CET/1:00pm EST, with the European Monthly Final. Then prepare yourself for the North American final, which will kick off around 01:00 CET/7:00pm EST.
Good luck to all sixteen teams, and have fun competing in the Go4GuildWars2 January Monthly Finals!
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Go4GuildWars2 January Monthly Finals Europe
Go4GuildWars2 January Monthly Finals North America
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I hope you guys learn how to seed better.
And again somebody from my team confirmed that we could play without me knowing about it. This seems to be a theme. Sigh.
And again somebody from my team confirmed that we could play without me knowing about it. This seems to be a theme. Sigh.
lol, not sure but I know by looking at brackets some games are like by’s, makes me think whoever is in charge of this just assumes teams are playing regardless of asking them, but who knows.
Also, another thing of note, some of those games don’t have a match score. That’s just pure laziness, that’s a basic no brainer thing to do, take a friggin screenshot.
See difference http://play.eslgaming.com/guildwars2/global/gw2/major/go4guildwars2-northamerica/cup-12/match/30965719/ SOMETHING PROVIDED — this is a non important match, nothing special here, no money on the line.
http://play.eslgaming.com/guildwars2/global/gw2/major/go4guildwars2-northamerica/cup-14/match/31018173/ NOTHING PROVIDED, NO MEDIA, NO SCREENSHOT, NOTHING, —btw this is the FINAL MATCH the BIG MONEY MATCH and nothing no media no nothing.
Bids on Abjured, 100 gold. Any takers?
Those other teams just don’t learn after getting spanked week after week.
I don’t even watch this, but if Abjured does same thing or whatever week after week you’d think they’d learnt by now.
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And again somebody from my team confirmed that we could play without me knowing about it. This seems to be a theme. Sigh.
lol, not sure but I know by looking at brackets some games are like by’s, makes me think whoever is in charge of this just assumes teams are playing regardless of asking them, but who knows.
Also, another thing of note, some of those games don’t have a match score. That’s just pure laziness, that’s a basic no brainer thing to do, take a friggin screenshot.
See difference http://play.eslgaming.com/guildwars2/global/gw2/major/go4guildwars2-northamerica/cup-12/match/30965719/ SOMETHING PROVIDED — this is a non important match, nothing special here, no money on the line.
http://play.eslgaming.com/guildwars2/global/gw2/major/go4guildwars2-northamerica/cup-14/match/31018173/ NOTHING PROVIDED, NO MEDIA, NO SCREENSHOT, NOTHING, —btw this is the FINAL MATCH the BIG MONEY MATCH and nothing no media no nothing.Bids on Abjured, 100 gold. Any takers?
Those other teams just don’t learn after getting spanked week after week.
I don’t even watch this, but if Abjured does same thing or whatever week after week you’d think they’d learnt by now.
Well abjured can’t compete in the EU finals…. the other games matter for prizes. It’s possible that for now no one is going to beat abjured regardless of meta just due to the skill level of the team. Would be cool to see them try something crazy though.
lol, not sure but I know by looking at brackets some games are like by’s, makes me think whoever is in charge of this just assumes teams are playing regardless of asking them, but who knows.
We don’t sign anyone up for the cup without confirmation from a team member.
And again somebody from my team confirmed that we could play without me knowing about it. This seems to be a theme. Sigh.
lol, not sure but I know by looking at brackets some games are like by’s, makes me think whoever is in charge of this just assumes teams are playing regardless of asking them, but who knows.
Also, another thing of note, some of those games don’t have a match score. That’s just pure laziness, that’s a basic no brainer thing to do, take a friggin screenshot.
See difference http://play.eslgaming.com/guildwars2/global/gw2/major/go4guildwars2-northamerica/cup-12/match/30965719/ SOMETHING PROVIDED — this is a non important match, nothing special here, no money on the line.
http://play.eslgaming.com/guildwars2/global/gw2/major/go4guildwars2-northamerica/cup-14/match/31018173/ NOTHING PROVIDED, NO MEDIA, NO SCREENSHOT, NOTHING, —btw this is the FINAL MATCH the BIG MONEY MATCH and nothing no media no nothing.Bids on Abjured, 100 gold. Any takers?
Those other teams just don’t learn after getting spanked week after week.
I don’t even watch this, but if Abjured does same thing or whatever week after week you’d think they’d learnt by now.Well abjured can’t compete in the EU finals…. the other games matter for prizes. It’s possible that for now no one is going to beat abjured regardless of meta just due to the skill level of the team. Would be cool to see them try something crazy though.
Ya you right,
See those guys on the NA wall in heart of the mist from 2013 none of them are from Abjured, but gotta nowhere, Abjured came… saw and spanked them out of 1st place for NA. Those players on the wall for 2013, no chance in hell coming back. I mean Abjured just too good for them. Those players skill ceiling has already been reached, Abjured skill ceiling, through the roof, cant mess with that.
Think I know why they don’t post scoreboard on the big money match. Its nothing but a spanking and they don’t want to show the team going against Abjured getting there kitten spanked.
Also, another thing of note, some of those games don’t have a match score. That’s just pure laziness, that’s a basic no brainer thing to do, take a friggin screenshot.
See difference http://play.eslgaming.com/guildwars2/global/gw2/major/go4guildwars2-northamerica/cup-12/match/30965719/ SOMETHING PROVIDED — this is a non important match, nothing special here, no money on the line.
http://play.eslgaming.com/guildwars2/global/gw2/major/go4guildwars2-northamerica/cup-14/match/31018173/ NOTHING PROVIDED, NO MEDIA, NO SCREENSHOT, NOTHING, —btw this is the FINAL MATCH the BIG MONEY MATCH and nothing no media no nothing.
It’s the players themselves that upload the screenshots to comply with ESL rules, and often it’s hard to clear your mind and remember a dumb screenshot when you’ve just won an exciting match 5 seconds ago.
I’m the guy who always does the screenshots, and I couldn’t make it this Sunday. It’s literally the only time there won’t be screenshots uploaded. Haha… peace and calm. We’re players, not robots.
The new incarnation of DoD or now Hail Mary or w/e their name is didn’t do too shabby against Abjured. Probably could’ve won the Foefire round off them but threw. Granted Abjured was playing with Bkpk instead of Chaith. Not to bash on Bkpk there, but I’d guess there’s more cohesion with Chaith.
And again somebody from my team confirmed that we could play without me knowing about it. This seems to be a theme. Sigh.
lol, not sure but I know by looking at brackets some games are like by’s, makes me think whoever is in charge of this just assumes teams are playing regardless of asking them, but who knows.
Also, another thing of note, some of those games don’t have a match score. That’s just pure laziness, that’s a basic no brainer thing to do, take a friggin screenshot.
See difference http://play.eslgaming.com/guildwars2/global/gw2/major/go4guildwars2-northamerica/cup-12/match/30965719/ SOMETHING PROVIDED — this is a non important match, nothing special here, no money on the line.
http://play.eslgaming.com/guildwars2/global/gw2/major/go4guildwars2-northamerica/cup-14/match/31018173/ NOTHING PROVIDED, NO MEDIA, NO SCREENSHOT, NOTHING, —btw this is the FINAL MATCH the BIG MONEY MATCH and nothing no media no nothing.Bids on Abjured, 100 gold. Any takers?
Those other teams just don’t learn after getting spanked week after week.
I don’t even watch this, but if Abjured does same thing or whatever week after week you’d think they’d learnt by now.
You’re completely right. All the teams should just not join any tournament the Abjured are in, what’s the point? Or we should just cancel them all and give the Abjured a year worth prizes. And when we’re at it we should just cancel pvp because they keep winning. Or how about…not. Why shouldn’t they try to get better? Why shouldn’t they try to beat them? You make no sense. The pvp community wants to increase the competition, not make it absolute zero.
As people pointed out you were wrong about the rest of your statements.
And again somebody from my team confirmed that we could play without me knowing about it. This seems to be a theme. Sigh.
lol, not sure but I know by looking at brackets some games are like by’s, makes me think whoever is in charge of this just assumes teams are playing regardless of asking them, but who knows.
Also, another thing of note, some of those games don’t have a match score. That’s just pure laziness, that’s a basic no brainer thing to do, take a friggin screenshot.
See difference http://play.eslgaming.com/guildwars2/global/gw2/major/go4guildwars2-northamerica/cup-12/match/30965719/ SOMETHING PROVIDED — this is a non important match, nothing special here, no money on the line.
http://play.eslgaming.com/guildwars2/global/gw2/major/go4guildwars2-northamerica/cup-14/match/31018173/ NOTHING PROVIDED, NO MEDIA, NO SCREENSHOT, NOTHING, —btw this is the FINAL MATCH the BIG MONEY MATCH and nothing no media no nothing.Bids on Abjured, 100 gold. Any takers?
Those other teams just don’t learn after getting spanked week after week.
I don’t even watch this, but if Abjured does same thing or whatever week after week you’d think they’d learnt by now.You’re completely right. All the teams should just not join any tournament the Abjured are in, what’s the point? Or we should just cancel them all and give the Abjured a year worth prizes. And when we’re at it we should just cancel pvp because they keep winning. Or how about…not. Why shouldn’t they try to get better? Why shouldn’t they try to beat them? You make no sense. The pvp community wants to increase the competition, not make it absolute zero.
As people pointed out you were wrong about the rest of your statements.
You’re right, but the thing is you can’t defeat The abjured lmao.
And again somebody from my team confirmed that we could play without me knowing about it. This seems to be a theme. Sigh.
lol, not sure but I know by looking at brackets some games are like by’s, makes me think whoever is in charge of this just assumes teams are playing regardless of asking them, but who knows.
Also, another thing of note, some of those games don’t have a match score. That’s just pure laziness, that’s a basic no brainer thing to do, take a friggin screenshot.
See difference http://play.eslgaming.com/guildwars2/global/gw2/major/go4guildwars2-northamerica/cup-12/match/30965719/ SOMETHING PROVIDED — this is a non important match, nothing special here, no money on the line.
http://play.eslgaming.com/guildwars2/global/gw2/major/go4guildwars2-northamerica/cup-14/match/31018173/ NOTHING PROVIDED, NO MEDIA, NO SCREENSHOT, NOTHING, —btw this is the FINAL MATCH the BIG MONEY MATCH and nothing no media no nothing.Bids on Abjured, 100 gold. Any takers?
Those other teams just don’t learn after getting spanked week after week.
I don’t even watch this, but if Abjured does same thing or whatever week after week you’d think they’d learnt by now.You’re completely right. All the teams should just not join any tournament the Abjured are in, what’s the point? Or we should just cancel them all and give the Abjured a year worth prizes. And when we’re at it we should just cancel pvp because they keep winning. Or how about…not. Why shouldn’t they try to get better? Why shouldn’t they try to beat them? You make no sense. The pvp community wants to increase the competition, not make it absolute zero.
As people pointed out you were wrong about the rest of your statements.
You’re right, but the thing is you can’t defeat The abjured lmao.
I disagree but there hasnt been a team with 5 great players besides abjured (theres always an anchor on a team, sometimes many)
And again somebody from my team confirmed that we could play without me knowing about it. This seems to be a theme. Sigh.
lol, not sure but I know by looking at brackets some games are like by’s, makes me think whoever is in charge of this just assumes teams are playing regardless of asking them, but who knows.
Also, another thing of note, some of those games don’t have a match score. That’s just pure laziness, that’s a basic no brainer thing to do, take a friggin screenshot.
See difference http://play.eslgaming.com/guildwars2/global/gw2/major/go4guildwars2-northamerica/cup-12/match/30965719/ SOMETHING PROVIDED — this is a non important match, nothing special here, no money on the line.
http://play.eslgaming.com/guildwars2/global/gw2/major/go4guildwars2-northamerica/cup-14/match/31018173/ NOTHING PROVIDED, NO MEDIA, NO SCREENSHOT, NOTHING, —btw this is the FINAL MATCH the BIG MONEY MATCH and nothing no media no nothing.Bids on Abjured, 100 gold. Any takers?
Those other teams just don’t learn after getting spanked week after week.
I don’t even watch this, but if Abjured does same thing or whatever week after week you’d think they’d learnt by now.You’re completely right. All the teams should just not join any tournament the Abjured are in, what’s the point? Or we should just cancel them all and give the Abjured a year worth prizes. And when we’re at it we should just cancel pvp because they keep winning. Or how about…not. Why shouldn’t they try to get better? Why shouldn’t they try to beat them? You make no sense. The pvp community wants to increase the competition, not make it absolute zero.
As people pointed out you were wrong about the rest of your statements.
You’re right, but the thing is you can’t defeat The abjured lmao.
I disagree but there hasnt been a team with 5 great players besides abjured (theres always an anchor on a team, sometimes many)
You new school?
And again somebody from my team confirmed that we could play without me knowing about it. This seems to be a theme. Sigh.
lol, not sure but I know by looking at brackets some games are like by’s, makes me think whoever is in charge of this just assumes teams are playing regardless of asking them, but who knows.
Also, another thing of note, some of those games don’t have a match score. That’s just pure laziness, that’s a basic no brainer thing to do, take a friggin screenshot.
See difference http://play.eslgaming.com/guildwars2/global/gw2/major/go4guildwars2-northamerica/cup-12/match/30965719/ SOMETHING PROVIDED — this is a non important match, nothing special here, no money on the line.
http://play.eslgaming.com/guildwars2/global/gw2/major/go4guildwars2-northamerica/cup-14/match/31018173/ NOTHING PROVIDED, NO MEDIA, NO SCREENSHOT, NOTHING, —btw this is the FINAL MATCH the BIG MONEY MATCH and nothing no media no nothing.Bids on Abjured, 100 gold. Any takers?
Those other teams just don’t learn after getting spanked week after week.
I don’t even watch this, but if Abjured does same thing or whatever week after week you’d think they’d learnt by now.You’re completely right. All the teams should just not join any tournament the Abjured are in, what’s the point? Or we should just cancel them all and give the Abjured a year worth prizes. And when we’re at it we should just cancel pvp because they keep winning. Or how about…not. Why shouldn’t they try to get better? Why shouldn’t they try to beat them? You make no sense. The pvp community wants to increase the competition, not make it absolute zero.
As people pointed out you were wrong about the rest of your statements.
You’re right, but the thing is you can’t defeat The abjured lmao.
I disagree but there hasnt been a team with 5 great players besides abjured (theres always an anchor on a team, sometimes many)
You new school?
is actually one of the weakest teams in this tourny, although theres a chance we could take 2nd since its POSSIBLE to trade games with DoD and the rest of them
And again somebody from my team confirmed that we could play without me knowing about it. This seems to be a theme. Sigh.
lol, not sure but I know by looking at brackets some games are like by’s, makes me think whoever is in charge of this just assumes teams are playing regardless of asking them, but who knows.
Also, another thing of note, some of those games don’t have a match score. That’s just pure laziness, that’s a basic no brainer thing to do, take a friggin screenshot.
See difference http://play.eslgaming.com/guildwars2/global/gw2/major/go4guildwars2-northamerica/cup-12/match/30965719/ SOMETHING PROVIDED — this is a non important match, nothing special here, no money on the line.
http://play.eslgaming.com/guildwars2/global/gw2/major/go4guildwars2-northamerica/cup-14/match/31018173/ NOTHING PROVIDED, NO MEDIA, NO SCREENSHOT, NOTHING, —btw this is the FINAL MATCH the BIG MONEY MATCH and nothing no media no nothing.Bids on Abjured, 100 gold. Any takers?
Those other teams just don’t learn after getting spanked week after week.
I don’t even watch this, but if Abjured does same thing or whatever week after week you’d think they’d learnt by now.You’re completely right. All the teams should just not join any tournament the Abjured are in, what’s the point? Or we should just cancel them all and give the Abjured a year worth prizes. And when we’re at it we should just cancel pvp because they keep winning. Or how about…not. Why shouldn’t they try to get better? Why shouldn’t they try to beat them? You make no sense. The pvp community wants to increase the competition, not make it absolute zero.
As people pointed out you were wrong about the rest of your statements.
You’re right, but the thing is you can’t defeat The abjured lmao.
I disagree but there hasnt been a team with 5 great players besides abjured (theres always an anchor on a team, sometimes many)
Abjured can be beaten. I think that if people figure out abjured’s strats, which is rush far every game, they could be countered. I also think a mes/thief comp will be the only comp to beat them, and NA isn’t exactly full of mes/thief comps right now. EU is running a TON of mes/thief comps right now so I think they have a good chance. After all, if abjured plays a 3 point game, what better comp is there then to have a 2 man death squad that can kill any d/d ele or cele engi in seconds and can be anywhere on the map due to thief mobility and portal?
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And again somebody from my team confirmed that we could play without me knowing about it. This seems to be a theme. Sigh.
lol, not sure but I know by looking at brackets some games are like by’s, makes me think whoever is in charge of this just assumes teams are playing regardless of asking them, but who knows.
Also, another thing of note, some of those games don’t have a match score. That’s just pure laziness, that’s a basic no brainer thing to do, take a friggin screenshot.
See difference http://play.eslgaming.com/guildwars2/global/gw2/major/go4guildwars2-northamerica/cup-12/match/30965719/ SOMETHING PROVIDED — this is a non important match, nothing special here, no money on the line.
http://play.eslgaming.com/guildwars2/global/gw2/major/go4guildwars2-northamerica/cup-14/match/31018173/ NOTHING PROVIDED, NO MEDIA, NO SCREENSHOT, NOTHING, —btw this is the FINAL MATCH the BIG MONEY MATCH and nothing no media no nothing.Bids on Abjured, 100 gold. Any takers?
Those other teams just don’t learn after getting spanked week after week.
I don’t even watch this, but if Abjured does same thing or whatever week after week you’d think they’d learnt by now.You’re completely right. All the teams should just not join any tournament the Abjured are in, what’s the point? Or we should just cancel them all and give the Abjured a year worth prizes. And when we’re at it we should just cancel pvp because they keep winning. Or how about…not. Why shouldn’t they try to get better? Why shouldn’t they try to beat them? You make no sense. The pvp community wants to increase the competition, not make it absolute zero.
As people pointed out you were wrong about the rest of your statements.
You’re right, but the thing is you can’t defeat The abjured lmao.
I disagree but there hasnt been a team with 5 great players besides abjured (theres always an anchor on a team, sometimes many)
Abjured can be beaten. I think that if people figure out abjured’s strats, which is rush far every game, they could be countered. I also think a mes/thief comp will be the only comp to beat them, and NA isn’t exactly full of mes/thief comps right now. EU is running a TON of mes/thief comps right now so I think they have a good chance. After all, if abjured plays a 3 point game, what better comp is there then to have a 2 man death squad that can kill any d/d ele or cele engi in seconds and can be anywhere on the map due to thief mobility and portal?
ellusive doesnt come very close
And again somebody from my team confirmed that we could play without me knowing about it. This seems to be a theme. Sigh.
lol, not sure but I know by looking at brackets some games are like by’s, makes me think whoever is in charge of this just assumes teams are playing regardless of asking them, but who knows.
Also, another thing of note, some of those games don’t have a match score. That’s just pure laziness, that’s a basic no brainer thing to do, take a friggin screenshot.
See difference http://play.eslgaming.com/guildwars2/global/gw2/major/go4guildwars2-northamerica/cup-12/match/30965719/ SOMETHING PROVIDED — this is a non important match, nothing special here, no money on the line.
http://play.eslgaming.com/guildwars2/global/gw2/major/go4guildwars2-northamerica/cup-14/match/31018173/ NOTHING PROVIDED, NO MEDIA, NO SCREENSHOT, NOTHING, —btw this is the FINAL MATCH the BIG MONEY MATCH and nothing no media no nothing.Bids on Abjured, 100 gold. Any takers?
Those other teams just don’t learn after getting spanked week after week.
I don’t even watch this, but if Abjured does same thing or whatever week after week you’d think they’d learnt by now.You’re completely right. All the teams should just not join any tournament the Abjured are in, what’s the point? Or we should just cancel them all and give the Abjured a year worth prizes. And when we’re at it we should just cancel pvp because they keep winning. Or how about…not. Why shouldn’t they try to get better? Why shouldn’t they try to beat them? You make no sense. The pvp community wants to increase the competition, not make it absolute zero.
As people pointed out you were wrong about the rest of your statements.
You’re right, but the thing is you can’t defeat The abjured lmao.
I disagree but there hasnt been a team with 5 great players besides abjured (theres always an anchor on a team, sometimes many)
Abjured can be beaten. I think that if people figure out abjured’s strats, which is rush far every game, they could be countered. I also think a mes/thief comp will be the only comp to beat them, and NA isn’t exactly full of mes/thief comps right now. EU is running a TON of mes/thief comps right now so I think they have a good chance. After all, if abjured plays a 3 point game, what better comp is there then to have a 2 man death squad that can kill any d/d ele or cele engi in seconds and can be anywhere on the map due to thief mobility and portal?
ellusive doesnt come very close
From what I’ve seen, ellusive always does what abjured wants them to because they always fight abjured’s 4 man squad at their home instead of just 4 man rushing abjured’s home. I haven’t seen a team try what abjured does except for DoD, and DoD can trade rounds with them.
No cheese mode?
Also it looks like TCG split into TCG and Orange Logo?
Double elimination for finals would be nice.
Though I’d like the NA scene to be more competitive, I don’t mind the predictability. I mean, the finals happen too late for me to watch them anyway and this way I don’t feel like I’m missing out on much (please prove me wrong, teams).
No cheese mode?
Also it looks like TCG split into TCG and Orange Logo?
I think Cheese Mode doesn’t exist anymore.
No cheese mode?
Also it looks like TCG split into TCG and Orange Logo?
I think Cheese Mode doesn’t exist anymore.
Frae and the poser with the pokemon names are in Orange Logo. The rest of Cheese Mode either wasn’t 18 or wasn’t from EU so they couldn’t have played as Cheese Mode in WTS.
Does someone know what hiba is doing? He deleted his twitch channel and I am not sure if he plays in NA
Does someone know what hiba is doing? He deleted his twitch channel and I am not sure if he plays in NA
Yeah, He’s on NA, I’ve seen him couple of times.
Does someone know what hiba is doing? He deleted his twitch channel and I am not sure if he plays in NA
Yeah, He’s on NA, I’ve seen him couple of times.
But he does not play the Go4 Cup? It should be easy for him to find a team.
Give Oeggs + Hiba combo please
Does someone know what hiba is doing? He deleted his twitch channel and I am not sure if he plays in NA
Yeah, He’s on NA, I’ve seen him couple of times.
But he does not play the Go4 Cup? It should be easy for him to find a team.
Give Oeggs + Hiba combo please
He does or did at least. Last time I’ve seen him he was on the team Literally Whatever.
Does someone know what hiba is doing? He deleted his twitch channel and I am not sure if he plays in NA
Yeah, He’s on NA, I’ve seen him couple of times.
But he does not play the Go4 Cup? It should be easy for him to find a team.
Give Oeggs + Hiba combo pleaseHe does or did at least. Last time I’ve seen him he was on the team Literally Whatever.
I believe this is the correct answer.
The competition is getting more fierce! Looks like Abjured has a target on their backs and it keeps getting bigger! LOL! Can I just say one thing which has been bugging me for a while. WTS passed can ANET do something about the Wall of Champions…… That is supposed to show the greatest players from the mist it should be a central piece in the mist and its put in a small corner… I say make a bigger statue or a statue with 5 sculptures SMACK in the middle of the mist.
The competition is getting more fierce! Looks like Abjured has a target on their backs and it keeps getting bigger! LOL! Can I just say one thing which has been bugging me for a while. WTS passed can ANET do something about the Wall of Champions…… That is supposed to show the greatest players from the mist it should be a central piece in the mist and its put in a small corner… I say make a bigger statue or a statue with 5 sculptures SMACK in the middle of the mist.
They should update it too.
The EU cup is now live!
OEggs always been an outcast on good teams.
When he does get on good teams… He wins WTS.
If OEggs wasn’t in Abjured during WTS, TCG would have won.
Abjured realized that how much was at stake and they got rid of weak link for a strong link like OEggs.
All other teams need to follow that moto.
Thing is, in business. One of the hardest things to do. Fire people. Fire weak links.
Tell people there kitten is crap when its crap is also tough.
Too many people kissing kitten , that’s easy to do.
OEggs always been an outcast on good teams.
When he does get on good teams… He wins WTS.
If OEggs wasn’t in Abjured during WTS, TCG would have won.
Abjured realized that how much was at stake and they got rid of weak link for a strong link like OEggs.
All other teams need to follow that moto.
Thing is, in business. One of the hardest things to do. Fire people. Fire weak links.
Tell people there kitten is crap when its crap is also tough.Too many people kissing kitten , that’s easy to do.
lol what
lol what
What indeed
Grats to 55hp!
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