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Posted by: SILENCE.3967

SILENCE.3967

Always 4up lose in a row and my fried got 13 win in a row, what kind match system is this????

Can someone explain this?

And for the new system, when people got 2 lose, they just afk for 3rd lose so can get 2 pip at next win, anet….your great system make people afk you know? what are you thinking about.

When I get my legendary back, I’ll quit pvp forever…..FOREVER!!!

MAKE SENSE PLEASE or you just making people quit this game!!!

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Posted by: Firebird Gomer.9563

Firebird Gomer.9563

Least your having mostly close competitive matches about 80% of the time

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Posted by: Torafugu.1087

Torafugu.1087

there is a known problem with spirals, once you start winning/losing you keep doing the same due to MMR effecting team quality, and team quality effecting MMR.

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Posted by: Exciton.8942

Exciton.8942

Well, given that you have so many close game loss, there are definitely something you could have done differently to make a better result./

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Posted by: nicknamenick.2437

nicknamenick.2437

When I get my legendary back….

Thats is your problem and allot of those complaining here.
PVE players that joined PVP for stuff like the legendary backpack… and because of there low MMR they get matched with the same skilled players (mostly new/bad) they QQ about the matchmaking system being bad. (good players will be there also but quickly go up in division)

I got news for you and other PVE players, dont expect to even reach high in the PVP league or to aim for the legendary backpack if that is your goal but dont even care about PVP at all.

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Posted by: Valentine.4089

Valentine.4089

For those people who would lose the 3rd match intentionally after 2 losses, I don’t know why they think it would be worthy. Unless you are in Amber, the 2 pip win compensation after 3 loss will not cover up your loss and give you a boost to your pip and tier progression. You would still need maximum a 3 Win streak to get you to next tier.

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Posted by: SILENCE.3967

SILENCE.3967

10 lose in a row now lol

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Posted by: lead.7543

lead.7543

When I get my legendary back, I’ll quit pvp forever…..FOREVER!!!

/facepalm

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Posted by: Pedrobz.2908

Pedrobz.2908

When I get my legendary back, I’ll quit pvp forever…..FOREVER!!!

You won’t.

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Posted by: SILENCE.3967

SILENCE.3967

When I get my legendary back, I’ll quit pvp forever…..FOREVER!!!

You won’t.

Sorry to disappoint you, I still got these thing.

Now all I need to do is keep doing daily match.

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Posted by: tom.7468

tom.7468

Queue with warrior then go back to necro here is my ratio

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Posted by: Pakkazull.6894

Pakkazull.6894

Queue with warrior then go back to necro here is my ratio

Lol, it doesn’t matter which profession you queue with. It’s 100% placebo. Also that’s not your “ratio”, that’s just your last ten games.

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Posted by: claytonmorby.3751

claytonmorby.3751

I know why you’re losing, you’re running MM necro.

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Posted by: Nikola.3841

Nikola.3841

Queue with warrior then go back to necro here is my ratio

I had similar experience in WVW in 1st season (Blackgate player)

I quit for more than 2 years and went back to DAOC because at least there was some challenge there (would still stay, but $30/month is kind of stupid at this day and age)

Yesterday by some odd chance my first two matches were wins by 500:50 or similar, it was as stupid and boring as losing by same result, only difference been I’d get pip at the end…then I went back on my usual 500:50 loses, but at least I saw how it looks from other side for 2 matches, and it felt like chasing headless chicken

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Posted by: SILENCE.3967

SILENCE.3967

I know why you’re losing, you’re running MM necro.

I take that photo after a 4 necro game, so you see I’m using MM necro.

Mostly I use Chill or Corrup necro, but it doesn’t matter, I got 6 win in a row with MM necro.

I don’t know that means MM necro good or just match system too awesome lol

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Posted by: Ragion.2831

Ragion.2831

Honestly i thought this type of post was just people trolling but apparently not. Why are people blaming their losses on the system? Its not like everyone just pushes a button and gets a score.

Don’t you think it is kinda silly to say that your friend won so you should win too?

Even before this system people would lose 6 times in a row then win the next 9. So unless you just started playing PvP or are constantly getting matched againt a team of mostly diamond level players or something (which you wont even be able to tell since this is the second season), your complaint makes no sense.

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Posted by: LordOtto.2650

LordOtto.2650

People can’t rotate, can’t speak in team chat, can’t even stronghold, there are some idiots in sapphire division that only go for supply no mater what, non-stop..in sapphire division… they were just carried…and I end up with my ruby division with idiots like these… if you can’t get out from 1-2-3 division, sorry mates you …. big time, your place is there, don’t f us up to by going to ruby or diamond! Even ruby players like me struggle to carry idiots from sapphire, it’s very hard… remain at your places, if you couldn’t get out by now from that division u are weak!
And yes, solo queue-ing is kittened up! I rarely get team mates who think and play like me… I have to say I play like a diamond player, never considered my self legendary, but this season just kittened up, 10% of the player base can even be considered diamond players, 5% legendary, rest is really noobs, or pre-made kittenings!
There are players with 300 matches played in ranked and cry?! Play 2000-3000, and I Belive you will not cry, you will end up minimum in ruby! After ruby is a pre-made Anet thing..you get good team mates or you will not progress..

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Posted by: Torafugu.1087

Torafugu.1087

Honestly i thought this type of post was just people trolling but apparently not. Why are people blaming their losses on the system? Its not like everyone just pushes a button and gets a score.

Don’t you think it is kinda silly to say that your friend won so you should win too?

Even before this system people would lose 6 times in a row then win the next 9. So unless you just started playing PvP or are constantly getting matched againt a team of mostly diamond level players or something (which you wont even be able to tell since this is the second season), your complaint makes no sense.

Because the system is a slot machine at the moment there isn’t even a point playing the matches.

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Posted by: Nikola.3841

Nikola.3841

Honestly i thought this type of post was just people trolling but apparently not. Why are people blaming their losses on the system? Its not like everyone just pushes a button and gets a score.

Don’t you think it is kinda silly to say that your friend won so you should win too?

Even before this system people would lose 6 times in a row then win the next 9. So unless you just started playing PvP or are constantly getting matched againt a team of mostly diamond level players or something (which you wont even be able to tell since this is the second season), your complaint makes no sense.

But now they lose 66 times without winning 9…even you should be able to spot the difference

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Posted by: Sirbeaumerdier.3740

Sirbeaumerdier.3740

Honestly i thought this type of post was just people trolling but apparently not. Why are people blaming their losses on the system? Its not like everyone just pushes a button and gets a score.

Don’t you think it is kinda silly to say that your friend won so you should win too?

Even before this system people would lose 6 times in a row then win the next 9. So unless you just started playing PvP or are constantly getting matched againt a team of mostly diamond level players or something (which you wont even be able to tell since this is the second season), your complaint makes no sense.

What you say is true but not seeing a systemic problem is almost as bad a troll to tell you the truth. The problem of this system is how you are paired with people when you go solo.

In his case, if his friend his of relative equal strength to him I imagine it can be frustrating and puzzling to witness the result he gets.

However, people who only care about the legendary and otherwise never pvp are a pain in my side this season. I wish they had their own special league…

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Posted by: Ragion.2831

Ragion.2831

What you say is true but not seeing a systemic problem is almost as bad a troll to tell you the truth. The problem of this system is how you are paired with people when you go solo.

In his case, if his friend his of relative equal strength to him I imagine it can be frustrating and puzzling to witness the result he gets.

However, people who only care about the legendary and otherwise never pvp are a pain in my side this season. I wish they had their own special league…

“In his case if his friend is of relative equal strength?” Well you can’t say that now can you? How exactly do you know they have the same skill level? Another question, how do you know for sure it is the system that causes losing streaks?

A couple other factors go into losing streaks:

Are you or anyone else on the team making an average or less than average contribution to the team or are you a legitimate threat on whatever point you are on and are you interfering with their caps. If you are just average then chances are that you will lose a few times in a row because maybe there is someone on the other that is an absolute force.

Are you or people on your team having a bad day? Sometimes you might be a great player but you are just not feeling it or you are playing with people in that position. This is actually a thing especially in a game where you are constantly required to play at your absolute best.

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Posted by: Kekkei Genkai Kage.5930

Kekkei Genkai Kage.5930

Looking at your skill utilities, could explain why..

[Rekz] Another Dead WvW Guild

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Posted by: Sirbeaumerdier.3740

Sirbeaumerdier.3740

What you say is true but not seeing a systemic problem is almost as bad a troll to tell you the truth. The problem of this system is how you are paired with people when you go solo.

In his case, if his friend his of relative equal strength to him I imagine it can be frustrating and puzzling to witness the result he gets.

However, people who only care about the legendary and otherwise never pvp are a pain in my side this season. I wish they had their own special league…

“In his case if his friend is of relative equal strength?” Well you can’t say that now can you? How exactly do you know they have the same skill level? Another question, how do you know for sure it is the system that causes losing streaks?

A couple other factors go into losing streaks:

Are you or anyone else on the team making an average or less than average contribution to the team or are you a legitimate threat on whatever point you are on and are you interfering with their caps. If you are just average then chances are that you will lose a few times in a row because maybe there is someone on the other that is an absolute force.

Are you or people on your team having a bad day? Sometimes you might be a great player but you are just not feeling it or you are playing with people in that position. This is actually a thing especially in a game where you are constantly required to play at your absolute best.

Let’s be honest a second here. If you play enough pvp/wvw roaming with others you have a pretty good idea of how good you are relative to them.

It is also the same in a match when you can instantly tell which players have enough pvp experience or not. Or when they can or not clearly carry their weight.

More importantly, you are a team. You represent 20% of that entity and therefore, all things being equal, 20% of it’s success or failure. Yet, you inherit 100% of the burden or the boon of the victory in the form of the TEAM MMR. That MMR is actually not really your MMR. Its the team.

If you fall under a certain threshold for a reason or another you will get, all things being equal, a worse team than you previously had meaning you will have to carry even more on your shoulder to break out of the death spiral.

The idea that a player with 5k+ hours on his profession and thousands of pvp matches get to be paired with someone with f2p or the like as if they were equal is ludicrous. Sometimes you just happen to play at a bad time and the available pool of players is your doom. A bad luck you might pay for a very long time. There is absolutely no questions a lot of the people I had on my teams were FAR below my skill both in profession mastery and pvp 101 (what to go for, rotation, etc.).

I had loosing streaks I could eventually break out of and, suddenly, I got partners that didn’t need to be babysit and ended up winning 20 matches in a row only for the day after to try my luck beyond what I should have and get 7-8 lost matches, 2 wins and then more losses. 95% of the time I can easily say that it’s the ppl I get that make all the difference. It is obvious when you do not need to say anything and when you have to beg ppl to do or not to do something very stupid or important..

You also have the example of the people that pvp on 2 accounts and have spectacularly different experiences in how difficult their road are. If they are supposed to be the main problem then how is it they don’t get a similar experience? The system and how it pair you with others will pampered you or doomed you. If you have it easy it will get easier. If you had it hard too often it will be a long road.

I’ve seen both sides of the medal so far and from my POV the system does play a big role in how hard or easy you surf the wave. You better be well placed when the wave comes for you or be prepared to hold your breath a long time.

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Posted by: Warcry.1596

Warcry.1596

http://imgur.com/0aE7iNx

Been like this for 15 games now.

Yes it’s Stronghold, it’s my preferred mode.

“He shall make whole that which was torn asunder.
Restore that which was lost. And all shall be as one.”

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Posted by: Sirbeaumerdier.3740

Sirbeaumerdier.3740

http://imgur.com/0aE7iNx

Been like this for 15 games now.

Yes it’s Stronghold, it’s my preferred mode.

I too can show images of my winning streaks… but what is your point?

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Posted by: Warcry.1596

Warcry.1596

That I am on the opposite side of him. I don’t know why, what I did, or anything like that I just genuinely do not understand why I am streaking like this, or why others have losing streaks

“He shall make whole that which was torn asunder.
Restore that which was lost. And all shall be as one.”

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Posted by: Krysard.1364

Krysard.1364

Minionmancer, lich, plays pvp only cause backpack, still have some close matchups, not that bad imo

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