Guardian never took skill to begin with

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Posted by: Solori.6025

Solori.6025

I don’t understand why people think this class is hard. During launch, everyone agreed that Guadian was broken. That hasn’t changed today and even in the Cele meta, it was only UP because the Cele classes were just as easy and more effective to play.

Now lets talk about mechanics. For starters? Guardian has so many things that can bait/punish dodges. BURNING, Blocks, Symbols ,Knockbacks. ALL of those baits/punishes dodges easy. And guess what? Most of what Guardian can do that is threatening is INSTANT CAST. That’s why if I random dodge and you don’t do anything crazy, I will die in the next few seconds because instant cast mechanics from Guardian take no skill to land.

Now the next problem? They can do all of these things while spamming Blocks and Burning

Meditation plays? That’s just rotation awareness, ANYONE can apply rotation awareness to all class. It’s not something relevant to Guardians only. Meditation plays just make rotations EASIER. In which case, Guardian is an easy class and I rest my case.

Guardian isn’t hard to play people. Even [Inset good Guardian player here] is realistically just getting carried by easy mechanics. Decent player and all but my point is Guardian can actually carry bad players because of how easy they bait dodges for no effort. NOW even Elementalist can’t really counter a Guardian 1v1.

TL;DR Guardian is and was always an easy class even when Elementalist countered them. The only time Guardian will EVER be a skill-based class is if their Blocks get cut in half and they get something extremely telegraphed + rewarding.

P.S.
I wonder if I should have made this about engineer instead :I


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Posted by: Necrotize.2974

Necrotize.2974

I for one am outraged by [insert whiny reason] and think the exact opposite of everything you posted. Assume that everything you said is wrong and it’ll save us some time.

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Posted by: Nagato no Kami.4980

Nagato no Kami.4980

I see what you did here… XD

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Posted by: Darknicrofia.2604

Darknicrofia.2604

horrible copy/paste, how does blocks bait dodges?

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Posted by: Necrotize.2974

Necrotize.2974

horrible copy/paste, how does blocks bait dodges?

Obviously it baits dodges so that you don’t accidentally auto attack into a block and get burned.

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Posted by: Oslaf Beinir.5842

Oslaf Beinir.5842

teach us how to copy/paste please

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Posted by: abclemons.7093

abclemons.7093

teach us how to copy/paste please

Bwhahahahaahahahahaha!

Oh, +1.

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Posted by: Solori.6025

Solori.6025

You are all supposed to be hostile..
I am dissappoint :I


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Posted by: Lucentfir.7430

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+1 guardians are so skilless deserve be nerfed into the ground with their skilless play nerf damage by 70% and give all meditations half sec cast times. Engi is not up to par yet in any game mode but requires many skill pls buff. Anet not nerf grenade barrage pls, engi need to b viable. mezmer and teef can do same damage. Don’t nerf or I am cry.

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Posted by: Solori.6025

Solori.6025

horrible copy/paste, how does blocks bait dodges?

Obviously it baits dodges so that you don’t accidentally auto attack into a block and get burned.

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Posted by: Nagato no Kami.4980

Nagato no Kami.4980

You are all supposed to be hostile..
I am dissappoint :I

Fine.

Guards too powerful all meta no skill. Anet plz reduce medi heal to 2hp and add 50 sec cast time. Eliminate virtues replace with self-damaging, suicide move that destroys armor and cancels anet account. All symbols reduce to 1/2 second and inflicts 100 stacks burn to own team.

Also make mes shatters hit for triple damage and all inflict stun so mes can be competitive.

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Posted by: DaShi.1368

DaShi.1368

This pretty much proved my point.

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Posted by: Nier.8741

Nier.8741

The sad part is, even though this is supposed to be a troll thread that mimics the format of my other thread, what the OP is saying is true.

Guardian and Mesmer are like one in the same, they really never took skill to begin with because of attack while evading (in this case block spamming/blind spamming) mechanics XD

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Posted by: Solori.6025

Solori.6025

The sad part is, even though this is supposed to be a troll thread that mimics the format of my other thread, what the OP is saying is true.

Guardian and Mesmer are like one in the same, they really never took skill to begin with because of attack while evading (in this case block spamming/blind spamming) mechanics XD

……I hate you right now….

I’m goin to bed..I can’t..

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Posted by: serenke.4806

serenke.4806

No class ever took skill to begin with. They are all alike because they can evade/dodge/block and go invulnerable when i attack them so that my attacks are not doing damage. Then they just hit back and it hurts. And all of this is INSTA CAST, no way to counter at all.
Nerf all classes plz.
But start with ranger, i’m tired of getting one-shot by bear pets.

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Posted by: Chase.8415

Chase.8415

I’m confused, the guardian meta is not meditations… it’s pretty much a glass cannon. A Bunker guardian that focuses on burns is far more deadly and it appears to be ran a lot in the top 1000 (at least when I play).

Especially since you can give 15% endurance regen to all allies, and being that a lot of classes are projectile based, the concentration trait with the light wall is quite deadly as well; it can literally nullify an entire fight for 12 seconds.

Some of them take the signet specialization and take signet of resolve, for a 32 second heal. If you trait into smite a condition while healing, and have the meditation heal trait it will add an additional 2k healing to the signet and grant you fury.

You should also be using runes of Melandru, they are the best runes to wear right now.

Meditation guardian is not the way to run right now, it does not offer much team support and has too much downtime.

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Posted by: serenke.4806

serenke.4806

Don’t be confused. He copy/pasted a QQ post about mesmers.

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Posted by: Lucentfir.7430

Lucentfir.7430

The sad part is, even though this is supposed to be a troll thread that mimics the format of my other thread, what the OP is saying is true.

Guardian and Mesmer are like one in the same, they really never took skill to begin with because of attack while evading (in this case block spamming/blind spamming) mechanics XD

Truth be told though if they got nerfed to the point of free kill then people will move onto another profession to complain about. No one will be happy until everything gets nerfed to a 1 button attack game with 2 dodges. The person who dies obviously got outplayed. :]

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Redgen Furyblaze – Charr Guardian – [SHD]Shade Warband – Tarnished Coast
Lerious Warhowl – Charr Warrior – [SHD] Shade Warband – Tarnished Coast

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Posted by: SlayerSixx.5763

SlayerSixx.5763

Waitwhaaaaat. Sounds like a salty mesmer.

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Posted by: Necrotize.2974

Necrotize.2974

I’m like 90% sure that some people don’t even read the first post before replying. They just look at the title and type the first thing that comes into their mind.

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Posted by: Ragnarox.9601

Ragnarox.9601

Nerf death knights! So op much wow.