Guardians in pvp

Guardians in pvp

in PvP

Posted by: Pillows.1306

Pillows.1306

I just noticed that I don’t see many guardians in dueling pvp servers. Are guardians usually not good in duels?

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Posted by: KrisHQ.4719

KrisHQ.4719

Guardians are very easily kited, and deal not enough burst damage when they finally get close. Generally very bad at dueling, yes.
The reason you’re not seeing any QQ about guards being UP is because they are very strong at teamfights / bunkering.
There is a 10/30/30/0/0 build that can deal some decent dmg, but you’re sacrificing a lot of defense with it which makes it bad for duels.
Guardians will lose pretty much every 1v1, only standing a chance against warrior since they often have to get close as well.

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Posted by: Dirame.8521

Dirame.8521

They are, but people are more interested in playing classes that are more popular in 1v1s.

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Posted by: Dirame.8521

Dirame.8521

Guardians are very easily kited, and deal not enough burst damage when they finally get close. Generally very bad at dueling, yes.
The reason you’re not seeing any QQ about guards being UP is because they are very strong at teamfights / bunkering.
There is a 10/30/30/0/0 build that can deal some decent dmg, but you’re sacrificing a lot of defense with it which makes it bad for duels.
Guardians will lose pretty much every 1v1, only standing a chance against warrior since they often have to get close as well.

Question; Have you fought against a good burst guardian before? Because they literally work like this; it seems like you’re winning but your health is dropping either because of retal or burning and all of sudden you’re dead because you inadvertently put a condition on them and they activated Smite Condition.

I make guides to builds you may not have heard of;
http://www.youtube.com/user/ceimash
http://www.twitch.tv/ceimash

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Posted by: Jax.5261

Jax.5261

Guardians are designed for team support in tPvP and are generally balanced around that. This means that even their DPS/Burst builds are more suited towards team fight situations. I’ll just go through why each of the individual styles aren’t strong in some 1v1’s.

Bunker:

  • Condition damage will eventually wreck you no matter how you spec
  • Sustain builds will eventually kill you with sufficient damage
  • Your enemy has to be running low amounts of heals or armour or something to make it so you have enough damage to pressure them
  • Guardian Bunkers are all designed for tPvP teamfight support and only for dueling another Bunker 1v1

DPS:

  • The entire build is reliant on having other players in the area, the more players (from either side) the more damage and heals.
  • Much weaker vs conditions and sustain

Burst:

  • Extremely telegraphed, this isn’t roaming.
  • A lot of sustain classes have a lot of anti-burst
  • Burst isn’t easy to set up

Burst would be your best bet in a 1v1 setting, but definitely not 103030. 0303055 is much, much stronger for a meditation build, regardless of what format you are doing. It’s a bit hard to explain but basically some engi’s are impossible to beat with a Guard 1v1 (unless the mess up) and Ele’s will have to miss a dodge for you to kill them.

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Posted by: Stealth.9324

Stealth.9324

Oh hi Jax.. I miss your Burst Guardian Build.. You Burst me with my Bunker Eles literally from 100% to 60% in one Flash

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