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Posted by: Zanthrax.6538

Zanthrax.6538

Hey guys, I’m currently working on an ongoing series to guides to help out newer guild wars 2 players take their first steps into sPvP. Having started out on stomping guides and with only one profession left to do I thought I’d share these videos here in the hope that they’d find their way into the hands of newer pvp’ers.

With that in mind once these stomping videos are done I want to branch into more in depth analysis of spvp from pre-game tips to map rotations, profession mechanics and more. So to start us off here are the links for content so far. ( Earlier videos came out louder apologies )

Warriors – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXNdcxNr5c4
Mesmers – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxUR9QX2J7g
Rangers – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k93Ck5i-bdw
Guardians – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdcYL6oPAX8
Elementalists – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd-TUu6vTSA
Thieves – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZN_nMSwy1Q
Engineers – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp5smxsjJQM
Necromancers – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1N5dTyUk5Y

I’ll update this thread when I do the necromancer, hopefully some new players out there will learn a lil something something, thanks for your time and have a great holidays!

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Posted by: Sensotix.4106

Sensotix.4106

Hey there
I just found this thread and watched some of the “how to stomp certain classes” videos and I have to say I am impressed I really enjoyed the way you made them and since I was looking for someone to make a video series with I am asking you if you would be up for joining me to start working on a series called:
How to Guild Wars 2 Pvp:
1. Basics
2. Maps
3. Heart Of The Mists
4. Runes
5. Sigils
etc etc etc

:)

Looking forward to hearing from you!

cheers,
sensotix

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Posted by: Zanthrax.6538

Zanthrax.6538

First off appreciate the positive feedback! Thanks man, and I’d definitely love to discuss ideas for other videos in collab etc. I’ll add you in-game or you can contact me etc. I had some ideas of my own for once these stomping guides were finished but yea. Hit me up! =)

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Posted by: hooma.9642

hooma.9642

well how about looking for already existing guides? like the one from woddenpotatoe? he covers a lot of that stuff sensotix want to make a video for. but i guess some just need attention.

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Posted by: Dahkeus.8243

Dahkeus.8243

Awesome job on all the vids Killchained! I frequently pass on links to a lot of your videos to many of my friends who are new to the game.

@ hooma: The videos WoodenPotatoes did to introduce PvP were good, but he never really finished the series and a good bit of it is outdated, so I don’t think there’s any danger of redundancy.

Something you may want to include for any intro vids is an explanation of general roles in things like solo Q as well as general strategy (going for home, mid, etc.) as well as the terminology.

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Posted by: hooma.9642

hooma.9642

Awesome job on all the vids Killchained! I frequently pass on links to a lot of your videos to many of my friends who are new to the game.

@ hooma: The videos WoodenPotatoes did to introduce PvP were good, but he never really finished the series and a good bit of it is outdated, so I don’t think there’s any danger of redundancy.

Something you may want to include for any intro vids is an explanation of general roles in things like solo Q as well as general strategy (going for home, mid, etc.) as well as the terminology.

the outdated part is just minor in his guide, but he covers a lot esp with a newb on hand. any new guide will be outdated soon in the same way. if a person havent the brain to adapt to minor changes to ui then i guess all the work is useless. and even if he havent finished it, it already covers all sensotix wants a guide make for.

i see no point of a new guide, esp not from this person. another fanboy collecting video to back up stupid suggestions and elitsm attitude? no thx.

we have a lot of guides. about roles and rotation too, in text and videoform.

the problem with outdated guides will also hit u. so if u really want to make guides, how about no video and no long wall of text and an implementation of a wiki and some graphical instructions. easy to get updated. but i guess, u dont get the most attention and fanboys out of it, so i guess, what would help the most will not be done.

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Posted by: Sensotix.4106

Sensotix.4106

well how about looking for already existing guides? like the one from woddenpotatoe? he covers a lot of that stuff sensotix want to make a video for. but i guess some just need attention.

what eh come on man thats not fair..
i didnt see the guides but i will check them out for sure

thanks for being like this i love my image… :/
i am not like this

edit: what do you think i would need the fanboys for..seriously i dont get it..
second of all dont you think making such guides would consume a lot of my time and i dont get anything out of it so please rethink that it makes me sad knowing that people think i do this for fame..if i wanted fame or whatever i would go record wildstar videos or gta 5 i just love this game and i want to support the community
about elitism: i think you mean the “anet is listening to the wrong players thread” the point of this thread was to get anet to talk to the players that participate in esl tournaments, are actively playing pvp on a high lvl etc so they can work on a nice balance with them and not listen to guys that come from pve to pvp and dont understand the concept yet…

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Posted by: Romek.4201

Romek.4201

can never be enough guides when i see the people every day ingame^^

but video ONLY i dont care for

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Posted by: hooma.9642

hooma.9642

well how about looking for already existing guides? like the one from woddenpotatoe? he covers a lot of that stuff sensotix want to make a video for. but i guess some just need attention.

what eh come on man thats not fair..
i didnt see the guides but i will check them out for sure

thanks for being like this i love my image… :/
i am not like this

edit: what do you think i would need the fanboys for..seriously i dont get it..
second of all dont you think making such guides would consume a lot of my time and i dont get anything out of it so please rethink that it makes me sad knowing that people think i do this for fame..if i wanted fame or whatever i would go record wildstar videos or gta 5 i just love this game and i want to support the community
about elitism: i think you mean the “anet is listening to the wrong players thread” the point of this thread was to get anet to talk to the players that participate in esl tournaments, are actively playing pvp on a high lvl etc so they can work on a nice balance with them and not listen to guys that come from pve to pvp and dont understand the concept yet…

no not only this thread. all your threads u create. its always the same. some wild suggestions without argumentation why.. then someone is against it and use a logical argumentation without any insults and all u respond is “another pve / wvw noob … blah blah”..
the same other way around. some bob just quote and says “good ideas… blah blah” and u respond “oh another pro player who think the same blah blah…”..

u dont even understand that a community needs different levels of balancing. thats why all ur suggestions are crap, your attitude is bad and your argumentation for any suggestion is not existant. you are one without any logic process behind your suggestions. thats why u cant argument for and only insult argumentation against. all u seek is attention. supporting community looks different.

or i should just make the same stupid threads.. my opinions on balance, my suggestion without argumentation, my vids showing my wins but never my looses and so one. and to back it up i could use my ladderposition blah blah.. that is helping the community? oh and dont forget the insulting of other ideas and suggestions and players. and oh hell i could also ignore all that what devs say like that what allie mentioned pretty early in your thread “anet listen to all and nobody!”. but that hasnt stopped your writing urge. if u really want to help i suggest following points to u:
1. stop insulting players
2. stop thinking the brain or understand of the game is related to some ladderpositions
3. stop evalute suggestions by ladderpositions and gamepart
4. understand how the game and balancing works and different positions and then start find a common point and start merging suggestions into it.
or just do the same like before and dance in circles of suggestions and insults. good work u done so far.

well you know create your guide and do what u always do. insult and seek for praise. or if u really want to help the community. u know there is a wiki where u can actual edit and upload stuff and so one. so its your choice, throw another vid out or some wall of text or something usefull.

@rest. u can create guides as much as u want. the real person u want adress will not be in this forum and will not be using youtube to get to know how to play this game.

thats why woddenpotatoe done more for tpvp as sensotix will be in 10 years. his videos where watched by pve-players.

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Posted by: Muchacho.2390

Muchacho.2390

Mhhh necro is missing…
Well its not difficult to stomp a necro so what ever…

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Posted by: GrandmaFunk.3052

GrandmaFunk.3052

well how about looking for already existing guides?

The problem with pre-existing guides, especially video-based ones, is that they quickly become less relevant over time as the game gets updated and the meta shifts.

So there’s always a need for new guides (and/or frequently updated ones).

If someone is willing to put in the time and effort to make new ones, I really don’t see the value in discouraging them.

GamersWithJobs [GWJ]
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Posted by: Sensotix.4106

Sensotix.4106

so basically i dont need to make a guide on pvp because you guys dont need or want it anyways?

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Posted by: hooma.9642

hooma.9642

well how about looking for already existing guides?

The problem with pre-existing guides, especially video-based ones, is that they quickly become less relevant over time as the game gets updated and the meta shifts.

So there’s always a need for new guides (and/or frequently updated ones).

If someone is willing to put in the time and effort to make new ones, I really don’t see the value in discouraging them.

well if u read guides like u read my post, yeah not needed.

if read further i said the problem of the old guides in the past is the problem of new guides in the future. so i suggest not making a video or wall of text, i suggested using the wiki or create one. so its easier to keep it updated and always on place.

so basically i dont need to make a guide on pvp because you guys dont need or want it anyways?

no not from u. esp the points u want to cover are basic for spvp player writing or reading in this forum. for the rest provide some links to woddenpotatoe, he already covered this.

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Posted by: Zanthrax.6538

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For me personally I plan to make guides regardless of what happens. For the whole elitist thing….I’m going to step away from that whole ordeal, I’m not interested in getting involved. As for WP’s stuff, I’m hoping to cover different material to what he is. Regardless I make videos because I enjoy making videos, and I intend to keep doing what I enjoy! =)

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Posted by: Zanthrax.6538

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@ dahkeus tyvm man appreciate it and definitely raised a good point

@romek thanks again to you too, what do you mean by video only as in, within the video I make I could include more graphics and explain stuff that way? Or refering to written guides too?

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Posted by: Sassyjay.3645

Sassyjay.3645

PLS PLS PLS do make a new pvp guide that is up to date. I am subscribed to sensotix and pvp locker so I try to keep up with new builds through your channel but a real comprehensive introduction to pvp with some greater detail than woodenpotatoes guide would be great. Particularly as his builds part of the video in reality barely explored anything at all.

“no not from u. esp the points u want to cover are basic for spvp player writing or reading in this forum. for the rest provide some links to woddenpotatoe, he already covered this”
what the ….??? did we watch the same video guides? sensotix points are basic ? you do realise its completely the reverse?

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Posted by: Sensotix.4106

Sensotix.4106

PLS PLS PLS do make a new pvp guide that is up to date. I am subscribed to sensotix and pvp locker so I try to keep up with new builds through your channel but a real comprehensive introduction to pvp with some greater detail than woodenpotatoes guide would be great. Particularly as his builds part of the video in reality barely explored anything at all.

“no not from u. esp the points u want to cover are basic for spvp player writing or reading in this forum. for the rest provide some links to woddenpotatoe, he already covered this”
what the ….??? did we watch the same video guides? sensotix points are basic ? you do realise its completely the reverse?

thanks for the support man i will start a guide series for sure!

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Posted by: Romek.4201

Romek.4201

@Zanthrax
ye some written+video guide would be nice

something like
Combo
5 2 65 2 ->8 9 0
link.video

ppl tend to have guide on second screen or build or whatever and scroll up and down to read important things and video should be just a link to can see how it works – my english not good enough for this^^

edit: talking bout guides like on this side

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Posted by: Zanthrax.6538

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@ Romek yea I see what you mean, I did do a written guide in combination with a video for some gold making guides. So something like this romek?

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/86540-gw2-gold-making-tips/

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Posted by: Romek.4201

Romek.4201

yea perfect – thats the guide im talking bout^^

so i can watch the video and can have the guide open on other screen and scroll up/down and read whatever im looking for

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Posted by: Zanthrax.6538

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Awesome I’ll keep that in mind romek! =)

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Posted by: Zanthrax.6538

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Updated with necromancer video. I plan to start really kicking off solid weekly videos for sPvP have some ideas jot down now that new years etc is over. =)