Guild Wars 2

Caed v.s. Anas Tarcis
http://www.twitch.tv/tarcisanastasis/c/3038277

It’s even fights, no win no lose, just make this video as showing A-Net that Guild Wars 2 should be like this. All the builds should requiring skills to play effectively. Caed and I were both playing a really hard spec but really strong with high skill level cap. A lot duels in this video, recommended watches start from 5:00, shows highly reactions on both players.

In the current meta, I admin that warrior is broken with Healing Signet, but it only happens when a warrior is actually running a stun-lock spec. Healing Signet seems pretty legit and balance on a typical berserker none CC warrior. The reason why is because warriors don’t have any protection skills itself. (ex. protection boon, brainless dodging, stealth, tele-port, invulnerbility, etc…) So the regeneration from Healing Signet actually not broken unless a warrior is running a Hammer, or Mace Shield spec with Berserker Stance.

In order to tone down this issue, players in this game shouldn’t blame on warriors regan, or Stun lock. I think A-Net should set up a debuff call “Stun Duration Deduction” This thing works like this, first time you stun an enemy, enemy will receive an actual stun duration. After that, enemy will get a Stun Duration Deduction, which will make them have 1 minute duration to counter next stun. In other words, if this enemy get stun during the Stun Duration Deduction, the actual stun duration will drop 25% duration and so on.

This will prevent the stun-lock spec to spam their stun again and again. People might ask me why I suggest to do this when I play a Longbow Hammer build in actual tournament. My answer is that I want this game to have less reward to bad skill players, and it will force them to improve themselves on controlling skills.

Also the build I’m playing in the video is a really high skill required spec as a warrior. Only 2~3 warriors in this game can play it properly. As far as Caed did, he is playing a high skill required thief spec.

I run;
15-25-20-0-15 greatsword/longbow build (With typical traits taken for selected weapons) I use berserkers stance/bola’s/F.g.J/rage sig/healing sig

With this build most professions have fairly good odds at beating me, and I have fairly good odds beating them. With this set up healing sig doesn’t feel over powered at all. The main reason I take it is for +40 precision on signets. It kinda highlights how thew current stunlocking build is edging on over bearing. However in fairness though, if warrior stunlocking gets nerfed, then mesmer and engi interrupt chaining and knockdown chaining also has to go. Rules are only rules when they apply to everyone.

Stun must be tone down, no matter which profession is. The thing is if the system I mentioned actually apply, the impact will go through the current cheesy meta warrior builds. Mesmer and engi don’t even need to worry about it because they can’t spam their stun over and over again.

>skips to 5 min
>blows 3 head shots on nothing

What kind of warrior take that much damage? He probably don’t even have minimum 3k armor.

Junkpile.7439:

What kind of warrior take that much damage? He probably don’t even have minimum 3k armor.

he said high skilled. typically high skilled = more damage, more options, and less toughness.

I thought it was boring running around with over 20k hp, 3,300 armor and a regen of about 900-1000 a sec.

Not to mention warhorn can turn vuln into protection boon and remove conditions. . .

Anastasis.7258:

Stun must be tone down, no matter which profession is. The thing is if the system I mentioned actually apply, the impact will go through the current cheesy meta warrior builds. Mesmer and engi don’t even need to worry about it because they can’t spam their stun over and over again.

It is not so much about stun spamming, it is more about the dominating amount of control they can exert over a target. Stun is just what warrior uses. Mesmer can use interrupts and Engi exploit nades/rifle/turret..regardless of what method is used, it still results the same..they each have methods of grossly controlling the target over and over and over again with spam simplicity. It is brainless, annoying and can be found in abundance in all forms of PvP. At least in spvp we don’t have to suffer runes of perplexity also being added to the mix.

I just watched the whole video and you two are amazing. I can confirm Ana’s skill as I have personally 1v1ed him and he wrecked me… (except from that one time he messed up due to lag and my stun mace warrior one shotted him with HB>WW when he was out of his only stunbreak; a very proud moment for me :P).

This brings me to my next point, a stun shouldn’t be longer than 1 second, it should be there to either interrupt a foe or to set up the next attack, not a 3 second stun that lets you load out your full HB>WW combo.

I also enjoyed both your specs are they reward high level play and punish for mistakes. THIS is how the game should be played. NO PASSIVES, quick fights. For instance, countering someone’s non-passive heal would result in his death if he didn’t put up a block, bind, fear or stability before he healed.

An excellent example of what the game should be, OP.

Some nice duels in here. I disagree with you about HS though, as I feel one skill making builds that dominate other builds without that skill in general need to be reworked.

I refuse to duel those types of thieves. The attack once then stealth and regen and remove condis while being completely invisible. Those duels are long and boring and not fun at all.

Sxalpha.5063:

I just watched the whole video and you two are amazing. I can confirm Ana’s skill as I have personally 1v1ed him and he wrecked me… (except from that one time he messed up due to lag and my stun mace warrior one shotted him with HB>WW when he was out of his only stunbreak; a very proud moment for me :P).

This brings me to my next point, a stun shouldn’t be longer than 1 second, it should be there to either interrupt a foe or to set up the next attack, not a 3 second stun that lets you load out your full HB>WW combo.

I also enjoyed both your specs are they reward high level play and punish for mistakes. THIS is how the game should be played. NO PASSIVES, quick fights. For instance, countering someone’s non-passive heal would result in his death if he didn’t put up a block, bind, fear or stability before he healed.

An excellent example of what the game should be, OP.

Thanks Sxa! Stun should be longer than 1 sec I think, but A-net can set a system that I mentioned to prevent some stun-lock spamming during all games. Especially in this game there is an aoe stun, which is really easy to land when fighting on point in a team-fight. Even though it missed, you don’t have to worry about it since you will only have 7 seconds cool-down. So I think A-net should consider my idea to apply in the system, it will turn the game into more skillful/balance plays. (Same as the Nerco’s fear chain)

s.7421:

I refuse to duel those types of thieves. The attack once then stealth and regen and remove condis while being completely invisible. Those duels are long and boring and not fun at all.

^I think you are talking about Cruuk’s infinity stealth build. Caed isn’t playing that kind of the build, he is playing a burst d/p thief, which requires more reactions and skills to play effectively.

For the people who asked what build I’m, I’m using Longbow GS, with only 2427 Armor. The hard part to play this is to manage your dodging rotation. It’s really difficult so there is closely to none of the warriors willing to try this build out. If you are interested in my build, I posted all my build in my twitch page.

“I’m so good,i have high skill build,it’s really difficult for other warriors” The summary of this thread

/Yawn

kitten s.7421:

I refuse to duel those types of thieves. The attack once then stealth and regen and remove condis while being completely invisible. Those duels are long and boring and not fun at all.

Did you even watch the video? He clearly has a daze on his Steal, so he is at least 30 points in Trickery. He also is not gaining health or removing condis in Stealth. Looks nothing like a Shadow Arts build.

the spec is 10 30 0 0 30 and it’s realy a nice build, even tho it’s harder to master than the common s\d build.
Also it’s not realy a duelling spec in my opinion but more a build for coordinated burst in tourneys. I would even play it with Assassin signet instead of Shadow Step, more risk, more reward if all goes well

very nice duels both of you, also I like caed singing

i’m just curios who is the other two
that can play that warrior build

kitten s.7421:

I refuse to duel those types of thieves. The attack once then stealth and regen and remove condis while being completely invisible. Those duels are long and boring and not fun at all.

lol

Good duels though, really entertaining and fun to watch.
Healing Signet on that kind of warrior didn’t look that great, but still it requires a tone down: most dueling servers ban that skill because it’s simply broken.
I enjoy SPvP duels more than WvW duels because you don’t have that ridiculous Perplexity Rune, Dire Stat Gear and +40% condi duration food buffs
Keep it up!

mini.6018:

“I’m so good,i have high skill build,it’s really difficult for other warriors” The summary of this thread

/Yawn

what he said

how is that high skilled, thief sure.

that warrior is just typical LB spam, bc hb and what GS spam? 5 to no where to avoid being hit who doesn’t know that..3 spam 1 spam at invisible thief who doesnt know that?
the fact that you are using passive heal is already a down

or maybe warrior’s high skill in this game is just too low to be considered.

Lighter.5631:

how is that high skilled, thief sure.

that warrior is just typical LB spam, bc hb and what GS spam? 5 to no where to avoid being hit who doesn’t know that..3 spam 1 spam at invisible thief who doesnt know that?
the fact that you are using passive heal is already a down

or maybe warrior’s high skill in this game is just too low to be considered.

why don’t you try that warrior spec and duel Caed to see how hard it is? It seems hard for me.

Lighter.5631:

how is that high skilled, thief sure.

that warrior is just typical LB spam, bc hb and what GS spam? 5 to no where to avoid being hit who doesn’t know that..3 spam 1 spam at invisible thief who doesnt know that?
the fact that you are using passive heal is already a down

or maybe warrior’s high skill in this game is just too low to be considered.

It is really high skill spec. It always seems easy when you watching me play, but if you standing beside my screen and watch my plays, you will be shocked because my fingers are moving super fast. I understand all the things you said, a lot players know to gs 5 run. The one you said spamming skills when thief is stealth is kinda wrong. If you are against a good thief, you will get kitten due to spaming and guessing where the stealth thief is. LB spam is totally wrong as well due to the thief’s steal skill. The Whirlwind that thief uses will reflect all the projectile. If you don’t stop and time the right timing, you will fk yourself again.

Healing signet is balance in this spec. Poison counters with a low armor. High risk, none mistake required.

Anastasis.7258:

It is really high skill spec. It always seems easy when you watching me play, but if you standing beside my screen and watch my plays, you will be shocked because my fingers are moving super fast.

super cool man…

Anastasis.7258:

The one you said spamming skills when thief is stealth is kinda wrong. If you are against a good thief, you will get kitten due to spaming and guessing where the stealth thief is.

thing is you just spammed lb f1 and 3 on yourself and spammed gs 1 around the area, how is that not spam and not guessing, im sure people know how to do that.

Anastasis.7258:

LB spam is totally wrong as well due to the thief’s steal skill. The Whirlwind that thief uses will reflect all the projectile. If you don’t stop and time the right timing, you will fk yourself again.

by your means, just because i stopped for reflection for a period of time, it becomes non spam automatically, even tho you 542 spammed alot outside of that time period.

Anastasis.7258:

Healing signet is balance in this spec. Poison counters with a low armor. High risk, none mistake required.

i never said it was not balanced in the 1st place, i said it was passive, which means you never need to click it, yet you claim it a high skill spec. and poison counter all form of healing, even healing surge so not an excuse.

Lighter.5631:

Anastasis.7258:

It is really high skill spec. It always seems easy when you watching me play, but if you standing beside my screen and watch my plays, you will be shocked because my fingers are moving super fast.

super cool man…

Anastasis.7258:

The one you said spamming skills when thief is stealth is kinda wrong. If you are against a good thief, you will get kitten due to spaming and guessing where the stealth thief is.

thing is you just spammed lb f1 and 3 on yourself and spammed gs 1 around the area, how is that not spam and not guessing, im sure people know how to do that.

Anastasis.7258:

LB spam is totally wrong as well due to the thief’s steal skill. The Whirlwind that thief uses will reflect all the projectile. If you don’t stop and time the right timing, you will fk yourself again.

by your means, just because i stopped for reflection for a period of time, it becomes non spam automatically, even tho you 542 spammed alot outside of that time period.

Anastasis.7258:

Healing signet is balance in this spec. Poison counters with a low armor. High risk, none mistake required.

i never said it was not balanced in the 1st place, i said it was passive, which means you never need to click it, yet you claim it a high skill spec. and poison counter all form of healing, even healing surge so not an excuse.

Spam longbow skill is just kittened in my build, thats all I can say.
not going to argue anymore since I’m the only one playing this spec atm, so I dont mind ppl calling it easy build.

30 trickery is a hard spec for sure, not sure about warrior’s spec but pretty sure ur skill level are higher than other warriors.