Guild Wars 2

What combat system do you guys like better a more reactive one like BnS or GW2. both are ncsoft games and there are a lot of similarities but what would you like from the one game added to or changed in the other.

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Blade and Soul combat is super clunky.

Stealth tracking turning while stunned bots making pvp completely worthless.

BnS pvp is basically based on stun/daze locking people and spamming your same 1 combo over and over until you meet Summoner and you are going to get destroyed unless you are actually Destroyer. Fun…

I like games where you can reroll classes without needing to grind in PvE, and arenas that aren’t infested with destroyer bots.

marvel vs capcom for computers.

Well, BnS is an asian MMO, so…

bloodpyrope.8630:

I like games where you can reroll classes without needing to grind in PvE

Here’s the way I see it.

BnS combat system is better due to having the more skillful player winning the match. The arenas are much better than GW2 PvP as well. Yes the PvP is basically stun lock/air combo to victory ala fighting games, but you do have ample counters to this.

That being said here is where BnS fails in my eyes.

1. Open world PvP is horrible. While their fighting engine is genius for 1v1 it is absolutely terrible in terms of group v group combat.
2. You have to grind PvE to unlock PvP skills/etc. This sucks and basically to get anywhere you need to no-life the game
3. Leveling 1-45 is fun, exciting, and goes rather quickly for a Korean MMO….then you get to the end game. It literally is a Korean Grindfest. The Hongmoon levels require like 750k experience to get 1, and your quests are like 4k exp. The amount of grinding needed to upgrade your weapons past a certain point is a lot of TIME and MONEY.

So while I greatly enjoy BnS combat I do get turned off by the grind required by the end game content. So if you have a lot of free time to devote to the game then by all means try it out, but if you hate grinding mindless PvE then it’s prolly not for you.

Pvp in B&S =0-1800 rank Destro bots, 1800-2000 summoners 24/7, 2000+ kfm/summ bots + hackers/mackro users.

i heard street fighter 5 pvp is way better :S

if you like to play rock paper scissor, baiting stunbreaks and 100-0 players while stunning them for 6 seconds then well.. yeah.. blade and soul in a nutshell.

cosmicegg.8502:

What combat system do you guys like better a more reactive one like BnS or GW2.

GW2 combat system clearly destroys BnS, it’s not even comparable.

I actually found BnS way more spammy than GW2… I mean you can spam in both, but even in high level play there isn’t much variation. It’s always the same combos. The only difference is mind games, when you use your get out of jail free card(s.)

BnS is an illusion of complexity. Proven by the fact that bots can be programmed to PvP as well as humans up to almost the master level.

Hey look another BnS vs GW2 thread, I totally didn’t see that before.

Blade and soul:

I would say its fun despite its super grindy gameplay but whats break the game is the developer itself

1.Optimization
worst optimization in the mmorpg history
(a) game dun support window 8 and above (if you are playing on window u get weird FPS drop)
(b) game only support direct x9

2. Bots
(a). Bot in dungeons (on a average u get 2 bot in your team every 2 blue dungeons
you do)
(b)Bot in pvp arena ( from bronze ranking to pla ranking u will fight 90% bot—-from
bronze to pla that’s around 30games if you win almost every match)
© You will see 20-30 bot farming open world boss from early game to end game open
world boss

Cheat and hack
(a) pla rank ans above in pvp arena is 60% cheater to name a few 0 CD skill hack,
infinite stealth hack, flying hack
(b) ncsoft dun even bother to ban them

Gameguard
(a) this anticheat program doesn’t do its job of banning botter or hacker
(b) this programs instead ban player from using mouse marco, player using VPN ping booster program, create log in issue and FPS drop issue

Developer
(a) When u report lag or ping issue they always say its the player fault nothing to do with them
(b) livestream—-player ask why no action is taken on bot issue brand manager say its not serious enough to be the top priority -.-

if you still want to try go ahead

I’m also diamond on NA….all you face is player using cheat and hack diamond…maybe EU is a bit better but NA is fill with cheater.

A game that focus on esport actually have bot in arena pvp I call it FAIL

also look at the link on the amount of complain. Please dun play that game I had regretted

https://forums.bladeandsoul.com/topic/193416-please-sign-this-thread-if-you-feel-they-falsely-advertised-the-game-and-if-you-suffer-from-the-bot-situation/

BnS is like the most overhyped game of the past year.

why is everyone complaining about bots. every game goes through the same thing at release.

its normal to have bot in f2p BUT Bot in arena is A BIG NO for a game that promote base on esport pvp its a ult game breaker. It put a RIP seal on BnS and not only bot the amount of cheat and hacker is worst then archage. They openly hack and cheat in arena and developer just ignore it

When you take away the bots and abuse, BnS demands much more skill than GW2 currently does. There was a time when reading critical moves and baiting skills used to matter in GW2, now everything is on such low cd and does so much that this is no longer the case.

In an ideal situation, BnS makes for a more challenging PvP game.

Stand The Wall.6987:

why is everyone complaining about bots. every game goes through the same thing at release.

…I can’t think of a single mmorpg game with player-made bots in pvp. I mean… how bad can the game’s pvp be when a macro program can faceroll PvP matches for you.. utterly ridiculous.

GW2 is the better PvP game.

You dont know what you are talking about if you believe that BnS is better, regardless how slightly.

BnS is as bad, unpolished and over-hyped as ESO was.

It may have been fine game if it was released in ~2008 not 2012… but funny enough not a lot has been fixed nor improved upon its release in EU/NA (2016)

1. PvE is a complete bore-fest questing.
2. Everything looks cheesy (animations, player models).
3. PvP is extremely clunky and imbalanced:
a. Bots, bots and bots.
b. Nearly half of the abilities locks you in place…all tho it promotes itself as ‘’true action combat’’
c. Zero balance between classes, which make little room for ’’skill’’ based PvP.

There are several other problems, but

All in all, I ended up regretting wasting time on BnS.

Saiyan.1704:

Stand The Wall.6987:

why is everyone complaining about bots. every game goes through the same thing at release.

…I can’t think of a single mmorpg game with player-made bots in pvp. I mean… how bad can the game’s pvp be when a macro program can faceroll PvP matches for you.. utterly ridiculous.

GW2 is the better PvP game.

WoW – Warlock interrupt bots in Rated BGs after MoP.

There were also “bot BGs” where one side can be composed entirely of bots, but I think Blizzard has dealt with them and it was mostly a problem on EU after they connected EU and Russian servers back in MoP.

BnS isn’t a MMO in the first place. It’s 3rd person fighting game. I’d much rather play Mortal Kombat.

AivenPrimus.9184:

You dont know what you are talking about if you believe that BnS is better, regardless how slightly.

BnS is as bad, unpolished and over-hyped as ESO was.

It may have been fine game if it was released in ~2008 not 2012… but funny enough not a lot has been fixed nor improved upon its release in EU/NA (2016)

1. PvE is a complete bore-fest questing.
2. Everything looks cheesy (animations, player models).
3. PvP is extremely clunky and imbalanced:
a. Bots, bots and bots.
b. Nearly half of the abilities locks you in place…all tho it promotes itself as ‘’true action combat’’
c. Zero balance between classes, which make little room for ’’skill’’ based PvP.

There are several other problems, but

All in all, I ended up regretting wasting time on BnS.

yes totally agree with you I waste quite a lot of money on this game hoping they can fix it.
what i’m ok with
1. i’m ok with bot in open world, ok with bot spamming chat, ok with bot sending my friend request

what i’m not ok with
1. but when bot start to invade dungeon…on a average of 2 dungeon there are around 1 bot in your group

2. bot in pvp arena (i’m playing arena for pvp not pve) arena now is like mushin tower version 2

What cause me to quit Bot and soulless
1. finally manage to get to diamond rank..told myself YES NO BOT but in diamond rank on a average of 5 games I came across 1 hacker….infinite stealth, 0 CD skill, flying hack
2. Best part is I manage to record them send a ticket to support…after 2 weeks they are still there.
3. Brand manager answer in livestream “bot is not our main focus” omfg

I actually didnt get to try blade and soul pvp. I leveled a bit and realised that the game is decades behind gw2. And i have been a disser of gw2 for years, but them i went to standard mmo maps and, god, how could i play wow for so many years? (Well, the answer is easy, raids kept me off the maps)

I know bots are a problem. They’re in every game and gw2 isn’t immune to bots or hacks. When season 2 started you needed a screen shot to report people porting all over the map so without community help they would of went right past the devs. I don’t know what’s meant by clunky pvp however, because you need to be very quick to react to take advantage of the counters when they become available. There are features in both games I really like. For instance the dodge mechanic in gw2. I also like that it takes skill to target and there isn’t a ton of AoE in BnS laid on the ground. I like the ability to change builds in an instant like GW had in BnS and I like 1v1 or team pvp. I like gw2 maps (in ranked). There are a lot of features in both games that are a lot of fun.