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Posted by: yandere.9176

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It is a PvE event garanted, but this picture sums up, why GW2 isn’t fun to watch and therefor will never be a e-sport unless they change something about the particle effects
http://i.imgur.com/fm9ZE.jpg

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Posted by: Defektive.7283

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With how easy it is to revive in this game, it will never be considered a competitive e-sport.

With the boring Conquest + Bunker dynamic, it will never be fun to watch.

And that’s a great opinion. I bet other games are boring to watch when you don’t understand the competitive scene in those games, either.

theres nothing to figure out with 3 point conquest, just nobody watches it. close games are rare with snowballing, even number fights are rare and most of the match is about moving around, not fighting, more boringness.

There’s nothing to figure out? This game has yet to be figured out. It’s just really easy for people to fall into the mindset of certain things being “required” to win, or they’re getting “hard countered” instead of playing better/thinking of something new.

This.

This past week I’ve been running GS / Longbow. It’s a learning process to get down survivability without a shield etc. But it works wonders with a certain composition of classes.

The problem though, was that other paid tourney players (opposing team) would get upset/angry/irritated and say ‘no you’re doing it wrong you have to be gs / axe-shield.’

This mindset that there’s a status quo stifles innovation. People get discouraged to try new things because others won’t let them (or berate them for it). It’s a community wide agenda to be negative or shun those who want to try new things for the sake of ‘meta’.

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Posted by: Chi Malady.2015

Chi Malady.2015

It is a PvE event garanted, but this picture sums up, why GW2 isn’t fun to watch and therefor will never be a e-sport unless they change something about the particle effects
http://i.imgur.com/fm9ZE.jpg

There are over 20 players on screen casting spells there…

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Posted by: Avead.5760

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It is a PvE event garanted, but this picture sums up, why GW2 isn’t fun to watch and therefor will never be a e-sport unless they change something about the particle effects
http://i.imgur.com/fm9ZE.jpg

lol this says nothing ..pretty much every game where you stuck 100s of players in the screen doing their kitten ends up like that.What do 5vs5 pvp games have to do with this??

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Posted by: yandere.9176

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As I said I know this is a PvE picture. I just choose this picture to exaggerate something that is also present when only a small number of players are involved.
Like you exaggerated when you said there would be 100 people on the picture which also isn’t completely true.

The point is that some attacks are just to flashy. The frame gets cluttered really fast with particle effects. 2 vs 3 can be just as messy to look at. In addition it is also hard to tell where the origin of an attack is when you are not involved in the fight itself.

This combinate makes this game not really fun to watch which is required to be an e-sport. Don’t get me wrong, I think this can be an e-sport, based of the core gameplay mechanics, but nobody would watch it.

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Posted by: daydream.2938

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I’ve said this time and time again. The constant attempts to monatize Pvp are a large part of whats keeping pvp from growing.

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Posted by: Follidus.8027

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With how easy it is to revive in this game, it will never be considered a competitive e-sport.

With the boring Conquest + Bunker dynamic, it will never be fun to watch.

And that’s a great opinion. I bet other games are boring to watch when you don’t understand the competitive scene in those games, either.

theres nothing to figure out with 3 point conquest, just nobody watches it. close games are rare with snowballing, even number fights are rare and most of the match is about moving around, not fighting, more boringness.

There’s nothing to figure out? This game has yet to be figured out. It’s just really easy for people to fall into the mindset of certain things being “required” to win, or they’re getting “hard countered” instead of playing better/thinking of something new.

what im saying is to a casual all you need to know is blue team is bunkering two points and sending an extra person to eveery fight so they win and red team is only able to bunker 1 point. that’s 90% of matches. I know you’re on a team so you desperately want this game to take off but it never will its just not fun enough to play/watch. ooh powerr tried something new and ran two op eles, gaiz meta is so deep!

I can’t speak for EU, but on NA I don’t see anyone running more than 1 bunker since the bunker nerf. And lets think here for a moment, even if running 2-3 bunkers continues to be a problem, then they’re going to nerf bunkers even more. They have said this. However, they take balancing at a very slow pace. We don’t know if bunkers are actually “overpowered,” or if everyone just thinks they are so they don’t try anything else.

It’s easy to fall into the trap of thinking something is “required” in order to win. It’s even easier to do this when you can reroll a different class/build instantly without a gear grind or anything.

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Posted by: Sand Beagle.9867

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Yeah downed state is so cool and revolutionary. I never know whats gunna happen next when i down that ele. Man OMG my heart just jumps when i am about to stomp him and he goes mist form, holy kitten that was unexpected. Man it blew my mind when that thief teleported and then went invisible, and when that mesmer teleport blink illusioned for 2 minutes just to waste everyone’s time.

I cant believe its not butter!

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Posted by: Braxxus.2904

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Might have more viewers if the meta wasn’t boring, there was more potential class/build diversity and viability and there was something to see other than “Player vs Circle” gameplay mode.

Just a thought.

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Posted by: Chi Malady.2015

Chi Malady.2015

Yeah downed state is so cool and revolutionary. I never know whats gunna happen next when i down that ele. Man OMG my heart just jumps when i am about to stomp him and he goes mist form, holy kitten that was unexpected. Man it blew my mind when that thief teleported and then went invisible, and when that mesmer teleport blink illusioned for 2 minutes just to waste everyone’s time.

I cant believe its not butter!

You’re about to stomp someone, and you get interrupted in the last moment. The player is rezzed.

You’re downed yourself, and you’re about to get picked up when your saviour gets interrupted by a trebuchet.

etc…

There is so much drama can occur around the downed state. It’s easily one of my favourite parts about this game. It forces you to prioritize who you will stomp, whether you need to blow stability for the stomp, etc.

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Posted by: SteepledHat.1345

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Anyone that thinks this game is going to come close to being an esport is fooling themselves. There are no athletes in this game. It’s all about gimmicks, zerging, and merry-go-rounding.

Needs more build diversity, more formats, more players, and a focus on PvP not running around in a circle.

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Posted by: nerva.7940

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My – last – hopes: custom arenas allowing us to do deathmatches (gw1 arena basically) and remove the down state.

The downed state gives this game so much flavour. Why would you want to get rid of that?

downed state is here to stay, it’s awesome, it adds depth, it’s fun. it’s not going away. deal with it please.

There are no athletes in this game. It’s all about gimmicks, zerging, and merry-go-rounding.

shows how little you know, and how youre not even willing to learn. maybe youre having a tough time in spvp, who knows. but i agree that we need a lot more build variety. devs know this too.

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