Alts screw the leaderboards, a part of it, they obviusly dont affects against who they play, even if his alt beats you and your MMR dropped (even in the long run, just supose) you are the same player, his beating the same guy, only difference could be: que times and they will win less.
no, alts have influence in the mm system they make there are less real players in leaderboar(less players queuing), this system now creates fast matches, had no hard barriers to ensure fair matches.
the equation is simple:
-top population is low (a lot of alts)
-play in hours of low population
-duo with other cream of the cream player
-q skip if some other top player is playing in same hour
and you get this team match composition:
your team
You (top of the top)
your friend (top of the top)
low/mid platinum
low/mid platinum
low/mid platinum
enemy team
low/mid platinum
low/mid platinum
low/mid platinum
low/mid platinum
low/mid platinum
if the hour is enough less populated it can be some gold in the match ant its easy to figure the high impact of the two “pros” in this case and the result of the match ez farming of victories
if sistem forces high top 250 to play only againts top 250(mid low top 250 can play with the aspiring top 250).
1 the be in top thing will have a major real value
2 they will stop messing with queues (if they mess with it they will get enormous qtimes as penalty)and this will improve the acuracy of all the system, because manipulations have and snowball efect that put players wrongly in all steps of the ladder
I never grinded to Legendary previous seasons, as well as skipped out on s1 & s4. I made it to plat. Quit trying to find things to blame for your rating stabilizing to where you belong.
Alts screw the leaderboards, a part of it, they obviusly dont affects against who they play, even if his alt beats you and your MMR dropped (even in the long run, just supose) you are the same player, his beating the same guy, only difference could be: que times and they will win less.
no, alts have influence in the mm system they make there are less real players in leaderboar(less players queuing), this system now creates fast matches, had no hard barriers to ensure fair matches.
the equation is simple:
-top population is low (a lot of alts)
-play in hours of low population
-duo with other cream of the cream player
-q skip if some other top player is playing in same hour
and you get this team match composition:
your team
You (top of the top)
your friend (top of the top)
low/mid platinum
low/mid platinum
low/mid platinum
enemy team
low/mid platinum
low/mid platinum
low/mid platinum
low/mid platinum
low/mid platinum
if the hour is enough less populated it can be some gold in the match ant its easy to figure the high impact of the two “pros” in this case and the result of the match ez farming of victories
if sistem forces high top 250 to play only againts top 250(mid low top 250 can play with the aspiring top 250).
1 the be in top thing will have a major real value
2 they will stop messing with queues (if they mess with it they will get enormous qtimes as penalty)and this will improve the acuracy of all the system, because manipulations have and snowball efect that put players wrongly in all steps of the ladder
Let me explain: The alt get in the 250 and kick off a guy from it, theres only 8 people of the leader board on, then this guy logg and go in, he get the guy more near to the leaderboard as the 10th, the guy kicked off of the leaderboard is on, his the closer one, he gets the same guy.
Different MMR (depends), diferent que time (lets forget this part), different leadervboard distribution, same guy as an opponent.
Nop alts dont change maps, the guy is still the more likely opponent in those conditions (games not gonna put a 9 people match neither skip the guy if his disponible to get a lower MMR one).
The soft reset already f’d over my games by putting way less experienced players into my matches, a hard reset would only f this over even more.
I’ve quit the game 2 days ago from the horrible “match making is working perfect” crap, it’s not. If anything I would petition for a revert of our MMR, complete scrubs in the games I played because of soft reset.
I could see way more experienced players than myself in bronze and way less experienced in platinum, what the kitten happened to the matchmaking, I dunno but apparently it’s working perfect and there has been no communication from Anet to say what they think about it, if they would atleast admit something is wrong and they are looking into it, then maybe I would keep logging in but when a captain has abandoned ship so must the crew.
I mostly play for the new Free-For-All arena in PvP lobby.
….. And Elementalist.
The soft reset already f’d over my games by putting way less experienced players into my matches, a hard reset would only f this over even more.
I’ve quit the game 2 days ago from the horrible “match making is working perfect” crap, it’s not. If anything I would petition for a revert of our MMR, complete scrubs in the games I played because of soft reset.
I could see way more experienced players than myself in bronze and way less experienced in platinum, what the kitten happened to the matchmaking, I dunno but apparently it’s working perfect and there has been no communication from Anet to say what they think about it, if they would atleast admit something is wrong and they are looking into it, then maybe I would keep logging in but when a captain has abandoned ship so must the crew.
..and we have no reason to believe they won’t do the same soft reset every season.
Long Live the AFKer!
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The soft reset already f’d over my games by putting way less experienced players into my matches, a hard reset would only f this over even more.
I’ve quit the game 2 days ago from the horrible “match making is working perfect” crap, it’s not. If anything I would petition for a revert of our MMR, complete scrubs in the games I played because of soft reset.
I could see way more experienced players than myself in bronze and way less experienced in platinum, what the kitten happened to the matchmaking, I dunno but apparently it’s working perfect and there has been no communication from Anet to say what they think about it, if they would atleast admit something is wrong and they are looking into it, then maybe I would keep logging in but when a captain has abandoned ship so must the crew.
..and we have no reason to believe they won’t do the same soft reset every season.
Long Live the AFKer!
AFkers are what kill most of my matches, legit losses are a lot more sparce for me. I’m not the best and I’ll not claim to be. but a hard reset will mean that you wont be getting new players in the middle of silver bottom gold that just drag your team down if the other team get the not as bad new guys.
The soft reset already f’d over my games by putting way less experienced players into my matches, a hard reset would only f this over even more.
I’ve quit the game 2 days ago from the horrible “match making is working perfect” crap, it’s not. If anything I would petition for a revert of our MMR, complete scrubs in the games I played because of soft reset.
I could see way more experienced players than myself in bronze and way less experienced in platinum, what the kitten happened to the matchmaking, I dunno but apparently it’s working perfect and there has been no communication from Anet to say what they think about it, if they would atleast admit something is wrong and they are looking into it, then maybe I would keep logging in but when a captain has abandoned ship so must the crew.
..and we have no reason to believe they won’t do the same soft reset every season.
Long Live the AFKer!
AFkers are what kill most of my matches, legit losses are a lot more sparce for me. I’m not the best and I’ll not claim to be. but a hard reset will mean that you wont be getting new players in the middle of silver bottom gold that just drag your team down if the other team get the not as bad new guys.
it’s not just afk’ers…had 2 people on a team last night all they did was argued and bantered with one another the entire match, as a result our “team” was summarily beaten.
Kyrie eleison…Dies irae, dies illa…Quando judex est venturus
The soft reset already f’d over my games by putting way less experienced players into my matches, a hard reset would only f this over even more.
I’ve quit the game 2 days ago from the horrible “match making is working perfect” crap, it’s not. If anything I would petition for a revert of our MMR, complete scrubs in the games I played because of soft reset.
I could see way more experienced players than myself in bronze and way less experienced in platinum, what the kitten happened to the matchmaking, I dunno but apparently it’s working perfect and there has been no communication from Anet to say what they think about it, if they would atleast admit something is wrong and they are looking into it, then maybe I would keep logging in but when a captain has abandoned ship so must the crew.
..and we have no reason to believe they won’t do the same soft reset every season.
Long Live the AFKer!
AFkers are what kill most of my matches, legit losses are a lot more sparce for me. I’m not the best and I’ll not claim to be. but a hard reset will mean that you wont be getting new players in the middle of silver bottom gold that just drag your team down if the other team get the not as bad new guys.
it’s not just afk’ers…had 2 people on a team last night all they did was argued and bantered with one another the entire match, as a result our “team” was summarily beaten.
I really despise AFK players and leavers, so much so it’s worth the infraction point.
Had this ranger across 3 games, 3 losses. Stronghold.5098 – Samuel Browning.
If I have to create a website to name and shame these guys I will, it’s a guaranteed loss every time and one of the main contributors to me in the process of leaving this game. AFter 200+ games my team mates finally started to know what to do so I’m not mad with the MM anymore but holy crap there needs to be harsher rules for these kitten tards.
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I mostly play for the new Free-For-All arena in PvP lobby.
….. And Elementalist.
The soft reset already f’d over my games by putting way less experienced players into my matches, a hard reset would only f this over even more.
I’ve quit the game 2 days ago from the horrible “match making is working perfect” crap, it’s not. If anything I would petition for a revert of our MMR, complete scrubs in the games I played because of soft reset.
I could see way more experienced players than myself in bronze and way less experienced in platinum, what the kitten happened to the matchmaking, I dunno but apparently it’s working perfect and there has been no communication from Anet to say what they think about it, if they would atleast admit something is wrong and they are looking into it, then maybe I would keep logging in but when a captain has abandoned ship so must the crew.
..and we have no reason to believe they won’t do the same soft reset every season.
Long Live the AFKer!
AFkers are what kill most of my matches, legit losses are a lot more sparce for me. I’m not the best and I’ll not claim to be. but a hard reset will mean that you wont be getting new players in the middle of silver bottom gold that just drag your team down if the other team get the not as bad new guys.
it’s not just afk’ers…had 2 people on a team last night all they did was argued and bantered with one another the entire match, as a result our “team” was summarily beaten.
I really despise AFK players and leavers, so much so it’s worth the infraction point.
Had this ranger across 3 games, 3 losses. Stronghold.5098 – Samuel Browning.
If I have to create a website to name and shame these guys I will, it’s a guaranteed loss every time and one of the main contributors to me in the process of leaving this game. AFter 200+ games my team mates finally started to know what to do so I’m not mad with the MM anymore but holy crap there needs to be harsher rules for these kitten tards.
although this isn’t a bad idea, there’s no shaming these people. if they had any integrity or conscience at all, they wouldn’t be doing these things in the first place.
Kyrie eleison…Dies irae, dies illa…Quando judex est venturus
Win/loss has no correlation on how good of a player you are. You heard it here first folks! This is the type of person you’ve attracted to your game Anet, are you proud?
Ehhh i think if you are silver and your W/L ration is 50% then you are not a good player. You will be hard pressed to find someone who does not agrree with that. Now if you reach plat or legendary and you W/L is 50% than it’s a different story. Get what i mean ??
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Win/loss has no correlation on how good of a player you are. You heard it here first folks! This is the type of person you’ve attracted to your game Anet, are you proud?
Ehhh i think if you are silver and your W/L ration is 50% then you are not a good player. You will be hard pressed to find someone who does not agrree with that. Now if you reach plat or legendary and you W/L is 50% than it’s a different story. Get what i mean ??
more likely it means that the other 4 people on your team carried you 50% of the time on your alt account
Kyrie eleison…Dies irae, dies illa…Quando judex est venturus
Alts screw the leaderboards, a part of it, they obviusly dont affects against who they play, even if his alt beats you and your MMR dropped (even in the long run, just supose) you are the same player, his beating the same guy, only difference could be: que times and they will win less.
no, alts have influence in the mm system they make there are less real players in leaderboar(less players queuing), this system now creates fast matches, had no hard barriers to ensure fair matches.
the equation is simple:
-top population is low (a lot of alts)
-play in hours of low population
-duo with other cream of the cream player
-q skip if some other top player is playing in same hour
and you get this team match composition:
your team
You (top of the top)
your friend (top of the top)
low/mid platinum
low/mid platinum
low/mid platinum
enemy team
low/mid platinum
low/mid platinum
low/mid platinum
low/mid platinum
low/mid platinum
if the hour is enough less populated it can be some gold in the match ant its easy to figure the high impact of the two “pros” in this case and the result of the match ez farming of victories
if sistem forces high top 250 to play only againts top 250(mid low top 250 can play with the aspiring top 250).
1 the be in top thing will have a major real value
2 they will stop messing with queues (if they mess with it they will get enormous qtimes as penalty)and this will improve the acuracy of all the system, because manipulations have and snowball efect that put players wrongly in all steps of the ladder
Let me explain: The alt get in the 250 and kick off a guy from it, theres only 8 people of the leader board on, then this guy logg and go in, he get the guy more near to the leaderboard as the 10th, the guy kicked off of the leaderboard is on, his the closer one, he gets the same guy.
Different MMR (depends), diferent que time (lets forget this part), different leadervboard distribution, same guy as an opponent.
Nop alts dont change maps, the guy is still the more likely opponent in those conditions (games not gonna put a 9 people match neither skip the guy if his disponible to get a lower MMR one).
Alts dont make match manipulation.
alts opens the mmr range, if mmr distribution is bell shaped more range, much more people, if you skip the dificult ones by friendlist traking the range and the population grows up, more variability more posibilitys not geting one that deserves high rank and was kittend by alts
Alts not are the main part of their matchmanipulation, but are one part
and it snowballs to lower ranks
