Guild Wars 2

Please can you update us? I do not understand what is currently going on. Ever since the 15th there has been nothing to inform us.

I am one of the top NA mesmers in P-TPvP. I did not cry when my phantasms got a LOS nerf(deserved), i did not say anything when they made it so if a character dodge/block’s ect.. it wont even summon; meaning we have to land one attack “twice” for damage (which is ludacris, and no other class has to deal with this), I did not cry about the berserker nerf since it was an accident.

But what is really ticking me off is that nothing is being said or disclosed to the players.

Every day i sit at mist trying to get a team together for Tournaments and even when i do, there is not enough teams to play one. I see people quitting pvp by the dozens every week. You have made a huge mistake by even putting such a high price on paids or even one at all(it seemed good on paper to do that, im sure) but people finally get 5 tickets, and get stomped on the first map in paids by a good team. The difference of skill from free tournaments to paids is huge so people just give up.

There are so many bugs in the game right now. Not hearing anncouncments, berserker nerfed by mistake, stealth seems broken now(people can still see you in stealth at times) and the list goes on. Classes are not imbalanced, D/D ele is too good with auras, engis seem useless.

This is not just me talking this is all the top players in NA PvP, from team pz, ptc, and many more amazing players…

All we would love to know is, is anything set in motion for PvP small or big for pvp? Should we just quit PvP? Is gw2 just a PvE game now since almost all the big updates are about PvE and holiday events?

I really love this game, and do wish to play it more but if gw2 keeps going down the road it’s headed im afraid pvp will cease to exist. I would not be mad about anything if they disclose to the public; that we know X is broken and X is being fixed while we are working on the next Y.

I believe that another post talked about how Transparency is paramount to success. WELL IT IS! please update us.

Please are we wasting our time in pvp?

Sincerely Xyrkain, Gw2 pvper.

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/75627-guru-state-of-the-game-spvp-stream-featuring-arenanet-developer-jonathan-sharp/

This is taking place tomorrow/today. Hopefully we get some information we can smile about ^^.

Maybe, i feel like pvp is slowly dieing…… Out of 400k people that play or used to play this game we cant get 64 to play tournaments…….

Thank you, i do hope people make their questions count because i feel this may be one of the last chances.

Jonathan, can you comment on the ESL interest in your game? I mean this should be huge for you guys that a prominent league WANTS to pick up GW2 right? Whats the ETA on private servers?

Other than that I agree with the OP that you should really look into lowering the cost of paid tournaments and eventually work towards a matchmaking ladder, so you don’t need 8 teams to play a tournament (just 2). Paids are getting better lately, I think last night there were 3 simulatneous tournaments. You guys should keep pushing hard to make this game big in PVP and it’ll help your sales in PvE as well.

i have dozens of tickets saved up, and i still dont do paids. it really makes no difference. need better balancing, more bug fixes, proper ranking system, more interesting meta, and different game modes.

biggest problem, out of all, is that last patch did not neuter the current meta well enough. meta still sucks.

FuVirus.6398:

Thank you, i do hope people make their questions count because i feel this may be one of the last chances.

Unless they seriously get their kitten together and just aim for a game worth playing in time, then draw people back since so few good PvP games are out… its going to be tough for this PvP to go places.

But anyways, at this point though I’d really like to see them fulfilling what they have already talked about doing more than talking more about what they want to do even more… the devs have already said they are planning on working in next to everything, but at this point, with the best of take on the situation, we can only say that their pacing is god awefully slow and tacit when it comes to actually doing it…

A rough rough timeline of what they plan and where they are at with updates would be a billion times better than all the vague promises about perfection I enjoy hearing…

I was referring to team fights and how people are forced to use ele’s since you give a team a 7 second aura which they not die on low cooldown. But its nice that you kept it civil. Thank you for your reply.

they lack focus, theyre all over the place. they should have left the world as is, and just improved rewards and DE scaling to keep the masses busy. this would have allowed them to focus on their babies, spvp and WvW. both have been horribly neglected, and spvp is as good as dead.

instead, they chose to introduce the gear treadmill, and put it in one dungeon, effectively killing world PVE!

I was really looking forward gw2 being a good pvp game. Unfortunately it failed hard due to bugs, matchmaking issues, class balancing and a lack of variety. When the game was new, I was playing a lot, everything was cool and new etc.. But after this period, it just got more and more boring and frustrating. I started playling less and meanwhile I just stoped. I gave it a short try after Nov 15th patch and stoped again, now just checking the forums sometimes, hoping to find some good news. I’m pretty sure that we will hear something like “oh thanks for all your great feedback guys, we are aware of the issues and are working on it”, but this doesn’t help. Anet has to put much more efforts into developing the spvp part of the game since this is (or at least should be) Anets flagship. Every time I logged in within the last weeks there were less spvp players in the mists as well as in my (primarily spvp) friend’s list. And every day people do not play gw2, the distance to the game is growing. Without any good results in the near future, spvp in this game will cease and hardly recover because ppl are looking for new games.

FuVirus.6398:

I was referring to team fights and how people are forced to use ele’s since you give a team a 7 second aura which they not die on low cooldown. But its nice that you kept it civil. Thank you for your reply.

What about the mesmer portal? Or what about the shadow refuge thief? Or what about bunker guardians?

When all professions bring something to the table I see no reason for people to complain, especially because everytime they touch eles we get nerfed by no less than 50% on something…on the contrary of mesmer whose Cd get …lol..nerfed by 2s max, nothing like eles where everything see reduction by over 50% in dmg or increase in CD by over 75%

Arheundel.6451:

FuVirus.6398:

I was referring to team fights and how people are forced to use ele’s since you give a team a 7 second aura which they not die on low cooldown. But its nice that you kept it civil. Thank you for your reply.

What about the mesmer portal? Or what about the shadow refuge thief? Or what about bunker guardians?

When all professions bring something to the table I see no reason for people to complain, especially because everytime they touch eles we get nerfed by no less than 50% on something…on the contrary of mesmer whose Cd get …lol..nerfed by 2s max, nothing like eles where everything see reduction by over 50% in dmg or increase in CD by over 75%

You mentioned everything that i dont like. I dont like that i am forced to used portal because it is so good. I dont like that im forced to use thief in team comp because of such high mobility. And i do not like that im forced to use an ele for auras. And please stop protection elementalist like it’s life or death ive played it and it’s the best and most op 1-1 spec at the moment. This will be my last respond to you.

“I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no respect.” – Edward Gibbon

Does anybody know the amount of players logging in now? It’s got to be like maybe 10% of what the game released on. Mists were dead 3 weeks ago (exactly when I gave GW2 a break) since I played so I can only imagine now.

MarcusKilgannon.5048:

Does anybody know the amount of players logging in now? It’s got to be like maybe 10% of what the game released on. Mists were dead 3 weeks ago (exactly when I gave GW2 a break) since I played so I can only imagine now.

There’s barely 15 full servers running at any one time.

Arheundel.6451:

FuVirus.6398:

Please can you update us? I do not understand what is currently going on. Ever since the 15th there has been nothing to inform us.

I am one of the top NA mesmers in P-TPvP. I did not cry when my phantasms got a LOS nerf(deserved), i did not say anything when they made it so if a character dodge/block’s ect.. it wont even summon; meaning we have to land one attack “twice” for damage (which is ludacris, and no other class has to deal with this), I did not cry about the berserker nerf since it was an accident.

But what is really ticking me off is that nothing is being said or disclosed to the players.

Every day i sit at mist trying to get a team together for Tournaments and even when i do, there is not enough teams to play one. I see people quitting pvp by the dozens every week. You have made a huge mistake by even putting such a high price on paids or even one at all(it seemed good on paper to do that, im sure) but people finally get 5 tickets, and get stomped on the first map in paids by a good team. The difference of skill from free tournaments to paids is huge so people just give up.

There are so many bugs in the game right now. Not hearing anncouncments, berserker nerfed by mistake, stealth seems broken now(people can still see you in stealth at times) and the list goes on. Classes are not imbalanced, D/D ele is too good with auras, engis seem useless.

This is not just me talking this is all the top players in NA PvP, from team pz, ptc, and many more amazing players…

All we would love to know is, is anything set in motion for PvP small or big for pvp? Should we just quit PvP? Is gw2 just a PvE game now since almost all the big updates are about PvE and holiday events?

I really love this game, and do wish to play it more but if gw2 keeps going down the road it’s headed im afraid pvp will cease to exist. I would not be mad about anything if they disclose to the public; that we know X is broken and X is being fixed while we are working on the next Y.

I believe that another post talked about how Transparency is paramount to success. WELL IT IS! please update us.

Please are we wasting our time in pvp?

Sincerely Xyrkain, Gw2 pvper.

What pro-player? I only see a little whiner, you play one of the most OP professions which rely on AI controlled pets to do 90% of their job and you dare to complain about d/d eles?

People complain about tank eles?..lol
I destroy mesmers (paid tournaments) with 13k HP ele burst on 1vs1, stop whining about everything that beats you, the dagger/dagger is the last usable set on eles…but baddies still complain

With what face you speak? Top player you say?..give me a kittening break, get down , people don’t see you through stealth…people learn to adapt against stealth abusing nabs who think of themself as pros.

You even go as far as saying that a profession should be able to attack while dodging..are kittening kidding me dude? What planet are you living on and what profession can attack while dodging?…my ele can’t

Hey if you mention bugs, you should mentions bugs which work in favour of mesmers.
Like the mesmer staff retreat teleport which drop target even though it’s not a stealth move

What’s wrong with you, man. Chill out. That wasn’t even the main point of his post.

And yes, last hopes on tomorrow’s Guru discussion

JonathanSharp.7094:

We’re here, we’re listening. I’m sure a lot of this will come up in tomorrow’s talk. We’ll have to keep it quick though, as I think the talk is slated for an hour.

I hope you will answer some good questions there. I know lot of players is waiting for this as last chance for PvP in near future.

Please take a look at and discuss about condition warriors gameplay in pvp.

Aragiel.6132:

JonathanSharp.7094:

We’re here, we’re listening. I’m sure a lot of this will come up in tomorrow’s talk. We’ll have to keep it quick though, as I think the talk is slated for an hour.

I hope you will answer some good questions there. I know lot of players is waiting for this as last chance for PvP in near future.

As of yesterday I have stopped playing until I see the results of this QA. If we get the same old fluff and dodging answers or unfulfilled promises then I am done for good.

At that point, it won’t even be about coming back when it’s fixed or “when it’s ready”. I will be to the point where I don’t trust their reliability.

Anyway, here’s to tomorrow and hoping for the best.

felivear.1536:

Aragiel.6132:

JonathanSharp.7094:

We’re here, we’re listening. I’m sure a lot of this will come up in tomorrow’s talk. We’ll have to keep it quick though, as I think the talk is slated for an hour.

I hope you will answer some good questions there. I know lot of players is waiting for this as last chance for PvP in near future.

As of yesterday I have stopped playing until I see the results of this QA. If we get the same old fluff and dodging answers or unfulfilled promises then I am done for good.

At that point, it won’t even be about coming back when it’s fixed or “when it’s ready”. I will be to the point where I don’t trust their reliability.

Anyway, here’s to tomorrow and hoping for the best.

I´m a bit afraid that we will get only some dodging answers. Someone need to stunlock Jonathan or imobilize him till we get answers and he can´t dodge !!

No seriously.. 3 months from relase. PUG fighs premades, no matchmaking.

The game has its potencial, its great actually, no matter the balance of the casses or maps differences. You can fight and you get lot of motivation and adrenaline going on when fighting in paids and with equall opponents. The problem is.. you get these challenging games only like 1 game from evening.. and as average player i dont have access to play PAID every day – because at the end of tournament i always see same team and almost no chance to defeat it = loosing tickets fast.

I played many fighting games when I was younger, at local arcades, generally against the AI when I was trying to master certain combos and timings, but rarely found good opponents there. This style of play that we are currently in reminds me greatly of those years. . . I never really enjoyed beating up on the weaklings though.

It should be noted I was a much better video game player back then.

I’m not going to say that is the last chance that they are going to have on the interview, but i stop playing (something that i never imagine when i bought this game), certainly is one of the last ones.

I do hope they can make it. But it might already be to late to improve it.

I quit a while ago, I don’t think anyone gives a kitten about that but either way I won’t come back until after they fixed the myriads of broken stuff currently in sPvP. Promises won’t really cut it, I suspect that the discussion won’t even bring about any real answers or promises but who knows.

It seems GW1 still is more competitive than GW2 actually

http://www.teamquitter.com/viewtopic.php?f=128&t=31207

EDIT: no idea why it doesnt work properly.. here is another link http://www.teamquitter.com/viewforum.php?f=128 – its the sticky topic

interesting…

Chriswck.6490:

What’s wrong with you, man. Chill out. That wasn’t even the main point of his post.

And yes, last hopes on tomorrow’s Guru discussion

While I understand your point, you should try to understand my frustation, if you’d be an ele player from the start of this game development, you’d realize that the ele community is left with nothing else than a single weapon set as the rest has been nerfed to the ground , to a point where you cannot even seriously consider in using them.

Everytime some “player” start crying on a forum, the ele does get not nerfed but literally destroyed.

Look at scepter focus, when the game first come out , that was the most talked set for eles, but because of complaints from people who didn’t even tried the game, that weapon set got nerfed behinh its original scope:

1) Dragon’s tooth changed from fast ground target skill to the cartoon like parody skill which is now, where you can go and take a coffie, come back and the dragon’s tooth still need to land -_-

2) Phoenix from the the dmg+healing fast travel projectile at 15s CD to the 20s CD slow moving -matrix style – projectile

3) Shatterstone changed from the decent dmg status to the ridicolously useless skill which is now

4) Auto-attack dmg reduced by over 70% on all weapon sets( fireball dmg from 2k using a full powered ele to the current version of 600 dmg with a 30 fire ele)

And the list goes on and on, there was a time even staff was good and not the PvE only weapon which is now, I’m really tired of how this game balance is handled, nerfs are given out without actual testing and based on the comment of clueless players.

These “pro” players whine about ele tanks d/d lol, I use a 13k HP ele and still destroy people: champion illusionist-champion shadow-paid tournament whatever you mention and you know why?

It’s because I played this profession from the start, there was a time where I was getting destroyed 100 times over 100 attempts , but rather than jump on the (lol) mesmer/thief/guardian bandwagon I sticked to the profession and now…r45/championmagus/10 QP, people see me alone on a point ( while having 13k HP) and run away or call for help before even trying.

I spent months training and now I will enjoy my well deserved “pro” status, obtained not because of skills which deal 3k dmg at single press of button ( sword skill2 mesmer, dagger skill2 thief etc etc) but because I learned to twitch in every direction and still hit people consistently from every angle, predicting almost every single move, I don’t count on OP defensive skills, I dodge a lot and I dodge what must be avoided at all costs.

Just go in the ele sub-forum and try to find a “whine thread” about other professions, there are no whiners in the ele community, only people who like to put efforts in things and get the rewards, if now those who preferred the “easy ride” get destroyed by those eles well….it’s not the game balance kittening problem and Anet must realize this.

im not an expert on ele class.. but considering Elementalist has its place in almost every team composition and also taking in account that i do see regullary D/D builds, S/D builds and also staff builds.. i would say that ele is one of the most balanced classess right now. Hell even more versatile class considering it has nice dmg output + cleansing + healing + enough CC + best combo fields + most AOE in game.

But i might be wrong of course.

u just need a good build on ele and some practise just like in every other class really
only because u have more skills does not mean its more hard or anything
and "
you’d realize that the ele community is left with nothing else than a single weapon set as the rest has been nerfed to the ground "

the only thing they changed with the latest patch was 1 trait that got fixed , they also nerfed a bit heals for ele bunkers because it was way too op but u can still play support ele and is not bad at all against heavy condi teams
so u can play ele with staff or D-D with sharing auras really strong aswell or roamer S/D the only useless weapon we have right now is just the focus

they also buffed our downed state and now we’re like the best class in downed state because u can counter everything with mist , and they buffed ether renewal wich is good now against cond so really nothing to cry about ele getting nerf and stuff like that lol

and please tell me why should ele be harder than other classes like thieves or mesmers

Yagamy.1569:

they also buffed our downed state and now we’re like the best class in downed state because u can counter everything with mist , and they buffed ether renewal wich is good now against cond so really nothing to cry about ele getting nerf and stuff like that lol

Yea.. downed state is quite funny now.. from zero to hero
nevermind.. back to topic..
Yagamy, please we have big hopes for today´s event with Jonathan.. if you can try to get as many important answers as you can.. (well.. your teammate actually)

yeah better stay on topic

i know lets just hope they’ll give some good answers because we really need those atm :p

Yagamy.1569:

u just need a good build on ele and some practise just like in every other class really
only because u have more skills does not mean its more hard or anything
and "
you’d realize that the ele community is left with nothing else than a single weapon set as the rest has been nerfed to the ground "

the only thing they changed with the latest patch was 1 trait that got fixed and they nerfed a bit heals for ele bunkers because it was way too op but u can still play support ele and is not bad at all against heavy condi teams
so u can play ele with staff or D-D with sharing auras really strong aswell or roamer S/D the only useless weapon we have right now is just the focus

they also buffed our downed state and now we’re like the best class in downed state because u can counter everything with mist , and they buffed ether renewal wich is good now against cond so really nothing to cry about ele getting nerf and stuff like that lol

No they nerfed the water 15 minor trait by 50% on healing output and removed the blast finisher from EA so that now a “bunker” ele can get killed easily by any decent player even on his own, not like a guardian where even sending a good player is not enough..you still need at least one more person.

The problem with ele is that all weapon sets should be able to switch role on the fly regardless of your runes or jewels, with d/d you can do that as long as you have at least 15 water you can heal your allies consistently but with the staff…

As you can’t stay on the frontline with a staff because you become an obvious target with your 13k HP and slow attacks, 13k HP because as support staff you want to maximise healing right?! But by that time I don’t see reason for a top team to pick a staff ele over a necro/mesmer support..sorry the time of staff eles is over.

That’s leave us with d/d ..or s/d if you like to lose: shocking aura-frozen burst-ring of earth-dragon’s breath-burning speed only to use dragon’s tooth and phoenix which earh requiring 3s to hit targets( unless you play at mele range and at that point I see no reason to play s/d over d/d)

Yagamy.1569:

yeah better stay on topic

i know lets just hope they’ll give some good answers because we really need those atm :p

We desperately need them atm. Im really looking fowarad to hear whats also other players opinion.

Especiatelly.. im interested on what anet is working on right now? is it custom arena? is it matchmaking? is it new map? or new modes? can we expect something on the 14th patch? or it will be only PVE wintersday event?

Arheundel.6451:

Chriswck.6490:

What’s wrong with you, man. Chill out. That wasn’t even the main point of his post.

And yes, last hopes on tomorrow’s Guru discussion

While I understand your point, you should try to understand my frustation, if you’d be an ele player from the start of this game development, you’d realize that the ele community is left with nothing else than a single weapon set as the rest has been nerfed to the ground , to a point where you cannot even seriously consider in using them.

Everytime some “player” start crying on a forum, the ele does get not nerfed but literally destroyed.

Look at scepter focus, when the game first come out , that was the most talked set for eles, but because of complaints from people who didn’t even tried the game, that weapon set got nerfed behinh its original scope:

1) Dragon’s tooth changed from fast ground target skill to the cartoon like parody skill which is now, where you can go and take a coffie, come back and the dragon’s tooth still need to land -_-

2) Phoenix from the the dmg+healing fast travel projectile at 15s CD to the 20s CD slow moving -matrix style – projectile

3) Shatterstone changed from the decent dmg status to the ridicolously useless skill which is now

4) Auto-attack dmg reduced by over 70% on all weapon sets( fireball dmg from 2k using a full powered ele to the current version of 600 dmg with a 30 fire ele)

And the list goes on and on, there was a time even staff was good and not the PvE only weapon which is now, I’m really tired of how this game balance is handled, nerfs are given out without actual testing and based on the comment of clueless players.

These “pro” players whine about ele tanks d/d lol, I use a 13k HP ele and still destroy people: champion illusionist-champion shadow-paid tournament whatever you mention and you know why?

It’s because I played this profession from the start, there was a time where I was getting destroyed 100 times over 100 attempts , but rather than jump on the (lol) mesmer/thief/guardian bandwagon I sticked to the profession and now…r45/championmagus/10 QP, people see me alone on a point ( while having 13k HP) and run away or call for help before even trying.

I spent months training and now I will enjoy my well deserved “pro” status, obtained not because of skills which deal 3k dmg at single press of button ( sword skill2 mesmer, dagger skill2 thief etc etc) but because I learned to twitch in every direction and still hit people consistently from every angle, predicting almost every single move, I don’t count on OP defensive skills, I dodge a lot and I dodge what must be avoided at all costs.

Just go in the ele sub-forum and try to find a “whine thread” about other professions, there are no whiners in the ele community, only people who like to put efforts in things and get the rewards, if now those who preferred the “easy ride” get destroyed by those eles well….it’s not the game balance kittening problem and Anet must realize this.

I’ll take your point, Arheundel.

Sigh… I guess I expected too much of Anet.

BUT HEY, I know for sure, at least for me, if things do make a turnaround, I’ll definitely be one of the first to come back!

Arheundel.6451:

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No they nerfed the water 15 minor trait by 50% on healing output and removed the blast finisher from EA

…

I probably would have felt better if the reason they state for reducing the minor healing output (and certain other skills), simply by saying that they felt it is overpowered, rather than attempting to justify the change by saying it was the original intention to have it at the fixed state.

this is not about ele!

when u already have the DPS needed for burst down targets i still can see a support staff ele against condi teamcomp and support ele is a good stomper too :p(and still good for kill treb!!)

anyway ye we should stop talk about eles :x

I couldn’t agree more with OP.

I have one question though, how do you rate yourself ‘’a top NA Mesmer’’ when there’s no ranking system? It just sounds extremely douchy to me.

If you are top in QP = you have very high win% → you are good
nobody can win a paid if your not completly destroying 99,99% of other players in 1vs1 or xvsx… +your team has better synergy than 99,99% of other teams
QP = SKILL

Why does everyone think they are so entitled? The game has been out for 6 months, its still a baby! Give them some time. No mmo in history is perfect when it releases. I understand your frustrations, but be patient.

this is also not about complaining. it is about communication from devs. And why? because we only get: “We’re here, we’re listening. I’m sure a lot of this will come up in tomorrow’s talk. We’ll have to keep it quick though, as I think the talk is slated for an hour.”

this is not enough. it actually borders on politics which is not a good way to go.

The problem is not with the “listening” it is with the “fixing”. On the 15th the loading loop bug returned. Every tournament since then we have had a member or two have to reload during play. This morning 4/5 of our team members had to reload during tournament vs a team with 3 thieves and two bunkers..

This bug drastically alters TPvP and yet has made it 15 days now for something that should have been hot patched on the same day. PvP is BROKEN.. What happened to the GW team that did constant hot patches during release for a lot more minor issues?

unknown.3972:

The problem is not with the “listening” it is with the “fixing”. On the 15th the loading loop bug returned. Every tournament since then we have had a member or two have to reload during play. This morning 4/5 of our team members had to reload during tournament vs a team with 3 thieves and two bunkers..

This bug drastically alters TPvP and yet has made it 15 days now for something that should have been hot patched on the same day. PvP is BROKEN.. What happened to the GW team that did constant hot patches during release for a lot more minor issues?

They are busy creating pumpkins or karkas or santas or…whatever anet is planning on releasing next

GUYS in 30 minutes !!! http://www.own3d.tv/GW2Guru WILL GO LIVE!!!! with Jonathan Sharp of the pvp community. I hope everyone will be in attendance!

FuVirus.6398:

GUYS in 30 minutes !!! http://www.own3d.tv/GW2Guru WILL GO LIVE!!!! with Jonathan Sharp of the pvp community. I hope everyone will be in attendance!

thought it was supposed to start 30 minutes ago?

Demon.7832:

FuVirus.6398:

GUYS in 30 minutes !!! http://www.own3d.tv/GW2Guru WILL GO LIVE!!!! with Jonathan Sharp of the pvp community. I hope everyone will be in attendance!

thought it was supposed to start 30 minutes ago?

No it’s starting in 26 min :P

I am sorry to inform everyone but the livestream will not happen but it will be a video released by gw2guru.

dont hold your breaths guys. “theyre thankful for the feedback, theyre aware of the issues, and theyre working on it. more info when it’s ready!” it’s the same broken record since the game came out. id like to hear an announcement like “we’re hiring 15 more staff to help us roll out pvp updates faster.” anything else will be kinda meh.

No— it’s not happening today. Apparently something happened on GW2GURUs end and they’re recording it locally and will be posting it in a few days.

Jonathan can we please get a repose from you since pretty much everyone who had some hopes for the live stream just got let down. At least something to give us a little hope about pvp.