Guild Wars 2

It would erase a lot of confusion and discrimination. It serves no purpose.

Think it through:

1. I enter a solo-queue match.
2. I see my teammates, by chance, have Ranks 1-20. I think: “Man, these guys are noobs.” WRONG. They may not be noobs, since matchmaking is not based on rank.
3. I see my opponents, by chance, have Ranks 20-40. I think: “Man, our opponents are good! We’re totally going to lose.” WRONG. For all I know, the opponents may be horrible at tPvP and grinded to that rank through hot-join.
4. I leave the game early, eating dishonor, because I believed I would lose anyway.
OR 4. I don’t even try, because I feel like we have no chance at winning.
OR 4. I do try but I give up easily because I feel like our opponents are too good based on their rank.

I would never do this, but I know a lot of players who would because they think rank is everything.

Now let’s try the same scenario with rank hidden:

1. I enter solo-queue match.
2. I see my teammates.
3. We play hard.
4. We win because our team had really good players.
5. I talk with a few of them and we group up, and it turns out a couple of them were only Rank 10.

I would hide rank from tPvP team and solo. Rank is for hot-join and custom arenas. (really just hot-join)

Wait do ranks now show BEFORE the match starts? That wasnt happening before…

Agreed. It needs to show Leaderboard rank as well check here.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Constructive-LB-rank-fix-Pros-Cons

Wanna bet 100 dollars that match making DOES consider ranking?

Quickfoot Katana.8642:

Wait do ranks now show BEFORE the match starts? That wasnt happening before…

It needs to be hidden completely, the entire match. The only time rank might be okay to show is at match finish.

Krayiss.4926:

Agreed. It needs to show Leaderboard rank as well check here.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Constructive-LB-rank-fix-Pros-Cons

I’m weary of showing any rank indicator, because people like to fixate on numbers and let it affect their judgement, in turn they’ll play weaker/stronger based on a silly number attributed to their team and opponents.

That said, I would much rather see leaderboard rank than glory rank under one condition: ONLY SHOW IT ON THE SCOREBOARD ONCE A MATCH FINISHES.

The problem with vanity numbers on the scoreboard before and during a match is people may give up and leave the match, regardless of dishonor, and once you are pitted 4v5 it’s all over.

@Authority
I dont think so. It can be statistically explained that similarly ranked players will have aproximately the same level of experience and quite possibly, success (win ratio), translating into similar ratings for similar pvp ranks. There are exceptions to the rule, like always.

The proof that the system doesnt consider pvpranks, or atleast play a much lesser role than you would think, is that when I was rank 23 I was constantly matched with and agaisnt ranks 40-55 and we were all similarly skilled, yet I was the only low rank. Those players were often surprised by how I played considering my rank and added me. Even exchanged some tips with some high leaderboards guys.

Rank does not, by all means , play a heavy role in matchmaking, if it even plays any role at all.

I have a Rank 1 account. My normal account is Rank 23ish. Don’t have enough time to grind rank and spend to much doing duels that don’t count progression XD