HoT DLC is ruining the competitive game

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Posted by: Zdenny.2704

Zdenny.2704

hey everyone, did somebody also noticed that the new specializations in PVP are ruining whole game? I play a thief and when i play against new specialization a litteraraly cant do anything. Seriously I have got so many games where 2vs1 couldnt do anything.
Example:
2vs druid.. we attack him in pair for 2 mins.. he was all the time ful hp every sec CC.. couldnt cause any DMG.
2vs berserker, we got him pretty low sudenly he got full HP while bursting us.. we lost 2vs one.
2vs dragon hunter.. runned to us spam skill all dead in 2 seconds.
2vs chronomancer.. all attacks are evading, couldnt do much for 2 mins, after it we beat him.
2vs herald.. block block block for few mins
and so many other cases like this im having every game I play PVP
like seriously what the hell is this? Is the ANET making unbalanced characters to force people to buy HoT for this benefits? Is this just only beacause of marketing?
I dont think any of them are OP, but the game is so unbalanced for a team where nobody bought this DLC. Its just ruining alsmot every game I play.
Whats your oppinion on this topic?

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Posted by: Deth.4109

Deth.4109

sounds like you just need to git gud kid. no but seriously elite specs aren’t the end all be all they are about on par with some of the original builds they have made redundant or outright inferior to some original play styles.

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Posted by: Moovingtargetz.7489

Moovingtargetz.7489

I guess like myself you need to learn the attacks/play-style of these new trait lines in order to make them look silly.

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Posted by: Zdenny.2704

Zdenny.2704

I feel the same but hey I just dont see that its OK when two coordinated ppl are attacking the druid and couldnt do any dmg.. we didnt get him below 80% if his HP and yet he get back on 100 in a sec. It jst doesnt make a sence. Or its okay to be it like this?
Me and my friend think we are not bad players after few years, but this is sometimes a big deal for us. I dont see they way how to deal with them.. And waiting for the moment when they make a mistake is something with you cant count.

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Posted by: Xanctus The Dragonslayer.2318

Xanctus The Dragonslayer.2318

gotta agree with the OP here.

Elite specs are in generall quite a notch above most core builds used in pvp. The DPS is insane. If you slip up even once you’re death. with this power creep you pretty much need to play your rotations and time everything perfectly.

Druids are not only incredibly tanky but you simply cannot trade blows with them. They can share damage, heal and even deal quite the bleed damage.

Dragonhunter: Make one mistake and you get nuked. the odd thing is that dragonhunters still have quite some sustain, even with all that DPS . espically if they go the med guard route. they can burst heal themselves up for 2 k hp.

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Posted by: Zdenny.2704

Zdenny.2704

For me as a player who dont bought HoT this is quite shame from Anet. I would say this will cause new meta and since you dont buy it you cant play in it. I play mostly thief and i think its still more valuable than Daredevil combantant. But in other hand I think the HoT just take my fighting away. Since I got new specializations in other teams (at least 3) I am literaly only capturing the points since I cant do anything in +1 fights.

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Posted by: WilnerGW.3275

WilnerGW.3275

Lol, I just made a thread about the same subject; Seems like I cant be competitive in SPVP anymore.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Are-specializations-stronger-then-old-builds/first#post5685544

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Posted by: nacario.9417

nacario.9417

How can it ruin competitive play when the examples given reek serious lack of class insight, or troll thread at best. And in all of them you were two and lost. Rev blocked for minutes, how? Because it cant, none can. Berserker suddenly at full hp, either defiant or its new heal on dmg, but u still shouldnt lose unless both were slow and ate zerker 100b arc slice. Its all just nonsenstalk here, thanks for the laugh though

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Posted by: Zdenny.2704

Zdenny.2704

I mean the HoT brigng new playstyle to current meta game. They play too different and nonHoT players at this moment dont have any way how to counter them or play on the same gamestyle to catch up.

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Posted by: Dahkeus.8243

Dahkeus.8243

Ok, so HoT isn’t DLC. It’s an expansion, which as with every MMO, that pretty much means that it’s a core part of the game and the base game is more of a demo for people trying out the game for the first time than a really viable stand alone option.

Does that mean that the profession imbalances are ok? No, but that’s kinda expected when there’s a radical change to skills and abilities and that will be sorted out in time. However, don’t expect the game to be balanced around people who won’t buy the expansion.

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Posted by: Zdenny.2704

Zdenny.2704

So this is the right way from Anet to force people to buy expansion?

….You want to play and be succesful? Pay another bucks if you want to catch up!

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Posted by: Sunshine.5014

Sunshine.5014

So, what’s about 2vTempest? What’s the result?

Gray out the HP for future condition damage
Already quit PvP. Just log in here and there to troll.

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Posted by: SchmendrickTheMagician.8247

SchmendrickTheMagician.8247

Thief already sucked before elite specs.

Last of the Red Hot Swamis

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Posted by: Mightybird.6034

Mightybird.6034

So, what’s about 2vTempest? What’s the result?

:(

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Posted by: BlackBunny.3681

BlackBunny.3681

Druids are far over the top….. i am not enjoying arena much atm just due to there always being a druid on the other team and 2v1 its just impossible to kill it…. Far over the top.

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Posted by: Locuz.2651

Locuz.2651

I really love reading the forums after patch and xpacs due to posts like this. Ppl getting 1v3ed or w/e and blaming the other build instead of their own incompetence..

Druids are easily killed 2v1 unless one of the two plays a (semi) bunker build.

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Posted by: BlaqueFyre.5678

BlaqueFyre.5678

With all Mmos whenever an xpac is released to stay relevant /competitive in pvp enviroment you had to buy the xpac. Otherwise you never cared about being truly competitive with it.

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Posted by: sephiroth.4217

sephiroth.4217

Not to be that guy, but why don’t you buy the expansion to keep an even and fair playing field like the rest of the PvP/WvW population had too?

There were plenty of threads about HoT being pay 2 win, not many people agreed until after the expansion went live.

It’s right there clear as day, “elite” specs, they can’t be called elite specs if they weren’t better than old ones and gave you the upper hand, or they would just be “specs”. – pay2win.

Elite: a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group or society.

I mostly play for the new Free-For-All arena in PvP lobby.
….. And Elementalist.

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