Despite me asking for a quick escort, It seems I’ve always have to prepare for the worse. am I missing something here? I tried to explain before the match started.
Escort is a valid tactic, but what happened in this match is also a valid strategy: just let one tanky build on home and let him ping the map if he sees enemies incoming. The only time an escort is absolutely needed is if the enemy team has a mesmer/thief pair, because one well-timed moa can lead to insta death.
Good video. Btw, I wanted to do this remark on one of your other videos, but if I were you, I would just drop the top blurry three-screen view, since it doesn’t add anything. I would much prefer to have black margins at the top and bottom of the screen. Maybe your face-cam could fill one of these margins? Oh, and you just have to click TWICE to detonate your healing turret, not twelve.
I am confused. You caught a perfect example? I saw a 3v3. Ya they did not hold your hand but they were still there. If you had 1 guy escort you, you still would have been outnumbered. Here is what they did. Getting to mid takes the same amount of time as it takes the enemy to get to the top of the hill heading to your home. They can then follow in right behind them (which they did, but a bit slow). If they were faster at reacting to no one being at mid, they would have been attacking those players as they approached the point. So yes they were 5 seconds to slow, but their tactic was not all that horrible either. At least your random teammates were smarter than some I see, who would not have shown up until you were dead. Also, as he stated, that 3 screen view has got to go Along with that 30 click water blast lol.
EDIT: In your exact situation (since you are not on comms) you would have had a higher chance at loosing the point if someone did escort you. With 2 of you are are far less likely to ping the point. The 2 left at mid would have a harder time distinguishing 3 enemy icons under your 2 friendly icons. They might have thought it was a 2v2 and left you alone. Both could have resulted in you loosing the point. It all worked out though. So no need to scrutinize.
Hmm this is some interesting feedback, makes me rethink what I knew, both in terms of gameplay and recording. I’ll see If I can improve from your suggestions.
All around in a solo Q team, you are highly more likely to succeed if someone escorts you. This should be a very mobile class. Due to not having comms and some people paying no attention to the mini map in Solo Q, this is the better option. Your situation worked out good but will not always as I am sure you have seen. As a solo Q team, it is better to escort unless the person going home is confident on holding off 2 players until help can arrive. It is all situational really, but from the title and wording of your post. I was expecting to see you get 3v1ed at home and loose it. I also think if even 1 or 2 showed up mid, you would have never received help. The only reason you did was because absolutely no one showed up there. You Solo Q players would have been more likely to +1 or +2 the guy at mid instead of making sure home was good first.
Like I said though, it worked out and your teammates had their thinking caps on for the match. Will not always be so lucky.
If I am solo Q and run mid at start and there is no one/ less than we brought i just keep running up the stairs towards home to check. From there if you see home going to be outnumbered, you can help; or if home is fine and they come out of stealth mid, you can just jump down and you are in the fight. Your 2 teammates coming up from behind were able to gank them out as they had not seen them coming. If you went 3v3 head on at start, would have been a much longer fight, that the winners would have been the better players (could have gone either way since I know none of the players). The surprise factor worked out well. They thought they were surprising you and they were the ones on the bad end of the surprise.
on foefire and khylo anyone that isn’t a bruiser/tank should have an escort. if enemy has thf/mes then you might even want to escort a bruiser/tank
on temple and forest it’s not so much “escorting” as it is watching the middle/crossing. just have to watch out for stealthed people.
the difference here is on temple and forest the path the enemy takes to your home point is also a path you can take to mid/far, where on foefire and khylo it is not, so it’s more of a true escort.
i realize it’s slightly off-topic but its an important distinction imo
on foefire and khylo anyone that isn’t a bruiser/tank should have an escort. if enemy has thf/mes then you might even want to escort a bruiser/tank
on temple and forest it’s not so much “escorting” as it is watching the middle/crossing. just have to watch out for stealthed people.
the difference here is on temple and forest the path the enemy takes to your home point is also a path you can take to mid/far, where on foefire and khylo it is not, so it’s more of a true escort.
i realize it’s slightly off-topic but its an important distinction imo
This is correct also. I mean we are talking about solo Q though too. So the option of, “Only escort the bruiser if they have thief/ mes” is not always the best option. I mean honestly. Do you trust that guy going home to be able to hold his own? You just met the guy 60 seconds ago and your faith is that strong? I have made that mistake as I am sure many others have. Full on bunker goes home and he can’t even survive 15 seconds for you to reinforce him from mid (a terribad decided to go home). There are only 2 real “escort” maps but I wouldn’t put the fate of the game in the skill level of a person you know nothing about (Solo Q). Khylo/ Legacy, your better option is to just escort the guy in case there is 2 or more coming. If you can’t communicate fast with that player, you may be too late when you get there.
This is very true, and because of that your team was actually better off NOT holding your point. Even if you got wiped after 30s in a 1v3, your team should have already established map control of the other 2 points and probably got 2 downs (being 4v2 on the other points). The fact that they were able to come in after a couple seconds means its not a problem as you are playing a build that is so tanky even if you just went afk.
Now, the WRONG play would be to NOT escort a burst/zerk player home and leave him to die and start a snowball. So often in soloQ’s when I am playing something bursty I offer to escort (as I can’t hold a point but can put a lot of pressure on anyone assaulting), and nobody goes home leaving me solo. If more than 1 player comes, its a very bad situation. You are right, people don’t pay attention of think of how to make better plays.
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Along with that 30 click water blast lol.