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Posted by: Sarlack.4096

Sarlack.4096

I have been enjoying Hot Join for my Daily lately after being pretty much a devoted WvW player.

Still low level at just under 30 but enjoying some pretty good fights.
I often get PMs asking my build as I tend to copy my WvW playstyle/build rather than the current METAs

My question is simple, which Ranger builds do you consider most difficult to fight if any

Not a Troll, seriously would like to know what Ranger builds are considered difficult to fight

Kaloria (SoSG) JQ

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Posted by: Prysin.8542

Prysin.8542

The worst ones to fight is probably going to be Spirit Ranger and Trapper.
Dunno how well signet builds work in sPvP, but the ability to instakill anything not warrior or guardian has a tendency to scare people.

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Posted by: Chicago Jack.5647

Chicago Jack.5647

If you don’t have 30 into wilderness survival, you’re doing it wrong.

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Posted by: Sarlack.4096

Sarlack.4096

Heya Prysin =D

I’m running a 0 Crit 0-0-30-10-30 BM LB/GS (Dogs) build and get daily PMs about how tanky I am….curious if anyone else is doing it as I never see anyone built like me.

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Posted by: Cyricus.2981

Cyricus.2981

Heya Prysin =D

I’m running a 0 Crit 0-0-30-10-30 BM LB/GS (Dogs) build and get daily PMs about how tanky I am….curious if anyone else is doing it as I never see anyone built like me.

I often run a similar setup and it works quite well. That would be a version of BM Bunker build. Most people use different weapons though. In fact, I had another ranger telling me I was hacking before, because I was healing too much, haha.

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Posted by: hellsmachine.4085

hellsmachine.4085

I’m playing the old “delete your ranger and roll warrior” build

Rangers need a buff badly.

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Posted by: OnlyFear.9165

OnlyFear.9165

I’m playing the old “delete your ranger and roll warrior” build

Rangers need a buff badly.

You’re joking.. Right? Spirit Rangers have one of the most OP builds to date.

OnlyFear The Last Pride [EviL]. Top 10 GW1 GVG tournament holder 6 years running.

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Posted by: Garillo.1349

Garillo.1349

A good shortbow/sword,x trap ranger can really get under a team’s skin. Through flat mitigation evade, mobility, optional range, and high condition damage they can be pretty nasty to 1v1 allowing for good space creation.

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Posted by: hellsmachine.4085

hellsmachine.4085

I’m playing the old “delete your ranger and roll warrior” build

Rangers need a buff badly.

You’re joking.. Right? Spirit Rangers have one of the most OP builds to date.

They need more viable builds. That word OP gets thrown around so much now it’s lost all meaning. I haven’t come across any class in GW2 that I would consider OP. In other games when I choose an OP class, no other classes can beat me besides the same OP class. Every class and build in GW2 has a counter. People should L2P and stop crying OP. GW2 is one of the more balanced MMOs I have played, you people need to get out more.

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

Fluffball.8307

Spirit, trap, and shout builds (or any combo of those) are all completely viable and mainstream. There are plenty of acceptable hybrid builds mostly revolving around the 1h sword. Then there are fringe builds like beast master or something that people can make work. One of the top teams was running a power ranger (can’t think of who immediately). Variety is excellent right now for rangers in PvP. More so than any other class, I have no idea what to expect when I see a ranger come at me.

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Posted by: Sarlack.4096

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Posted by: Ryan.9387

Ryan.9387

1) Spirit ranger. x-x-30-20-x.
2) Traps x-30-30-x-x.

Shout builds aren’t good.
Power is too situational and is non viable without empatic bond.
BM is usually paired with spirit ranger now as 0-0-30-20-20. (I find this to be the best build for ranger at the moment.)

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Posted by: Rubik.7192

Rubik.7192

There’s the BM ranger build, a dueling spec people use to win 1v1s by setting pet to attack mode so they can pretend they’re good.

There’s also the spirit ranger build where you have to mash your 1 button all day and press 1 button to res your teammates.

Pick your poison.

Curie.
“I’m so hard right now” – Ozie, in solo queue.

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Posted by: Ryan.9387

Ryan.9387

You can add depth to ranger though. There is a reason good rangers beat bad ones. They don’t spam 1 button and do 1 thing.

Ranger | Elementalist

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Posted by: Eurantien.4632

Eurantien.4632

Your build is ok, I used to run something similar but with dual ravens back when they could one shot shatter mesmers and thieves. However, power ranger lacks something, DPS, survivability, boon rip, condi removal, SOMETHING. To make it viable. Part of the problem is that power rangers damage does not scale well because their pets are also power damage and ANET though that would be imbalanced or something. Anyway, the only way ranger can do solid damage is to do condition damage because the scales equally regardless of class or to go 30/30/x/x/x zerker which leaves you with no condi clear besides SoR (healing spring doesn’t count when you’re full glass). I can’t see your build being very affective against many things anymore (as i’ve tried my version) and the lack of healing power makes it hard to sustain especially with that weapon set. Traiting into WS as a power build is just inefficient as you have 300 worthless condi damage you might as well just go condi.

Anyway, the strongest build is spirit ranger atm. BM was good, but the pet nerf has made it too weak. Traps are ok, but you can dodge through traps, you cannot dodge condition procs provided by the spirits and the body blocking they provide should not be underestimated. Now, when people say ranger needs a buff, they do. ranger cannot realistically do anything besides tanky condi’s and be up to par with the other classes. So i’d say nerf tanky condi’s, the healing, the evades, something, but buff power ranger somewhere to improve build diversity.

Someone said, some top team ran a power ranger. That was me. I was subbing in for Two Metas Ahead, and we played against Helseth’s team. The matches were very close and we did not lose because of ‘builds’ we lost because of rotations. That being said I pretty much got destroyed if their thief saw me before I saw him, although, it did go both ways. The problem being, once being seen and getting trained by more than 1 thing it is impossible to survive for very long if they want you dead.

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Posted by: Drew.4208

Drew.4208

Any noob ranger under water in a 1v1 fight.

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Posted by: Zeru.5063

Zeru.5063

Bunker ranger? i Know one good

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Posted by: Dahkeus.8243

Dahkeus.8243

Eh…honestly, rangers seem to be good, but not great. Spirit rangers still seem to be solid in organized tPvP and are a safe choice for winning in solo Q (unless you get Skyham, lol), but other builds really just ride the line of mediocre.

I think that’s why you still see a decent number of rangers even though the meta doesn’t tend to bring them unless they are spirit rangers.

Also, I think with just a few of the right tweaks, Rangers could become a really string profession, even outside of spirit builds. There have been a lot of little buffs for a while and they’re almost there, but not quite.

Edit – crap…didn’t realize this was a necro thread. >.<

(edited by Dahkeus.8243)

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Posted by: Darnis.4056

Darnis.4056

Zeru.5063 What was the point of Necroing a 3 month old thread?

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Posted by: HeadCrowned.6834

HeadCrowned.6834

Depend on what build the enemies have, but against an enemy without any AoE damage; the spirit build works well.

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Posted by: Zeru.5063

Zeru.5063

Its because i see it now and all think if bunker ranger is useles but im a proof if this concept is wrong, and im no spirits.

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Posted by: Rezz.8019

Rezz.8019

Rangers would be ok if spirits weren’t so bugged. If you are cast their skills while they are moving they will bug out almost each time.