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Posted by: Locuz.2651

Locuz.2651

So slowly we can see the effects if this horrible change, where ppl get matched based on the highest person on their team.

Losing due to troillish legends who cba to play to win, and play rifle warrior + their amber friend. And ofc 3 man guild teams with a mix of emerald/sapphire and 1 diamond. <- thats on par with a full legendary solo pug in anets eyes.

Result: duo and triocapping empty points at diamond + legend level. The classic; chasing 1 thief with 3. Ofcourse the not dodging at all. Or what about the run faceforward in to a 1v3 and die within 2 seconds.

All i can is thank you arenanet, for this quality change. Truely amazing.

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Posted by: brannigan.9831

brannigan.9831

The old system was just as bad and the main reason why leagues failed.

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Posted by: Locuz.2651

Locuz.2651

The old system was just as bad and the main reason why leagues failed.

Agreed. But they can change it to something that works. Most excisting online games have mmr systems that work. I dont see why GW2 needs a 3rd grade kitten system like we have now.

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Posted by: Ritt.3069

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People shouldn’t queue ranked with friends significantly worse than they are, that’s what unranked is for. And that has nothing to do with divisions, but taking your pve player friend and going into unranked is just asking for trouble (for your teammates as well).

Not really anything Anet can do to stop idiots from queuing, unless you can also drop divisions. Overall I’ve had better experience with the new system, but I admit it has flaws as well.

William Van Dine/Aria Entreri/Weaver of the Dream
Thousand Lakes Alliance [TLA], Desolation
4 Champion titles, solo/duoq Legend, best old LB rank 64.

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Posted by: kdaddy.5431

kdaddy.5431

People shouldn’t queue ranked with friends significantly worse than they are, that’s what unranked is for. And that has nothing to do with divisions, but taking your pve player friend and going into unranked is just asking for trouble (for your teammates as well).

Not really anything Anet can do to stop idiots from queuing, unless you can also drop divisions. Overall I’ve had better experience with the new system, but I admit it has flaws as well.

Who is this for? Playing with your friends is what you are suppose to do. Why not just ban bad players from queing as well? Lets just ban all non HOT players/ meta players / Pro level players as well.

Hey everybody play unranked because this guy says if your not of the same skill level of the players around you, you shouldnt be there.

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Posted by: Ritt.3069

Ritt.3069

People shouldn’t queue ranked with friends significantly worse than they are, that’s what unranked is for. And that has nothing to do with divisions, but taking your pve player friend and going into unranked is just asking for trouble (for your teammates as well).

Not really anything Anet can do to stop idiots from queuing, unless you can also drop divisions. Overall I’ve had better experience with the new system, but I admit it has flaws as well.

Who is this for? Playing with your friends is what you are suppose to do. Why not just ban bad players from queing as well? Lets just ban all non HOT players/ meta players / Pro level players as well.

Hey everybody play unranked because this guy says if your not of the same skill level of the players around you, you shouldnt be there.

When did I say we should ban players from playing? I said that queuing with significantly weaker friends in ranked with the current system is not a smart thing to do. We could go back to the old system and have everyone abuse the hell out of it. Or we could MMR as a metric instead of pips to get more accurate matchmaking with whoever you play. But hey, that’s not going to happen as it leaves people in certain %s.

Stop being salty over a comment in the internet. If you want to go lord rush at start with your rank 20 friends in ranked matchmaking, it’s not my place to judge you. As long as the matchmaking is what it is, it will screw over other people in your team but that’s perfectly fine.

If you could lose divisions, then maybe people wouldn’t stop caring after hitting Legend.

William Van Dine/Aria Entreri/Weaver of the Dream
Thousand Lakes Alliance [TLA], Desolation
4 Champion titles, solo/duoq Legend, best old LB rank 64.

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Posted by: fishball.7204

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The problem is when other people q with their bad friends as a trio and I end up on their team as a solo q and end up losing 2 pips cuz of them.

FOR THE GREEEEEEEEEEEEN

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Posted by: insomniaproject.1348

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also consider now their are many bad Player in Diamond or so which just got their because they did exploit the old System and got to a rank in which they dont belong, and suddenly have to Play ranked against People which belong to such high rank, ofc they get destroyed xD

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Posted by: kdaddy.5431

kdaddy.5431

People shouldn’t queue ranked with friends significantly worse than they are, that’s what unranked is for. And that has nothing to do with divisions, but taking your pve player friend and going into unranked is just asking for trouble (for your teammates as well).

Not really anything Anet can do to stop idiots from queuing, unless you can also drop divisions. Overall I’ve had better experience with the new system, but I admit it has flaws as well.

Who is this for? Playing with your friends is what you are suppose to do. Why not just ban bad players from queing as well? Lets just ban all non HOT players/ meta players / Pro level players as well.

Hey everybody play unranked because this guy says if your not of the same skill level of the players around you, you shouldnt be there.

When did I say we should ban players from playing? I said that queuing with significantly weaker friends in ranked with the current system is not a smart thing to do. We could go back to the old system and have everyone abuse the hell out of it. Or we could MMR as a metric instead of pips to get more accurate matchmaking with whoever you play. But hey, that’s not going to happen as it leaves people in certain %s.

Stop being salty over a comment in the internet. If you want to go lord rush at start with your rank 20 friends in ranked matchmaking, it’s not my place to judge you. As long as the matchmaking is what it is, it will screw over other people in your team but that’s perfectly fine.

If you could lose divisions, then maybe people wouldn’t stop caring after hitting Legend.

All my comment was, is to show the fact you say people shouldnt play ranked with there friends.

Seriously ive heard it all. 1 person on my team cried because we had to face team PZ and asked them why they were in ranked. I had another person do the same thing when we had to face APex. The pro players all made the same joke about people saying ohhh i can play the game but you cant or go play unranked.

Im saying it doesnt matter, people will say something dumb like go play in unranked for any reason that hurts them. I want you to actually change your opinion on the matter and ask for a better MM system.

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Posted by: Divided by zero.9370

Divided by zero.9370

I agree with Ritt. Sure it isnt the fairest of matchmaking, but what it does is detour people from playing in such unbalanced legend+amber formats. Another solution would be to split soloq from partyq(2+3, 5), but that was already tried and didnt have the best results. And i’ll give as an example a very successful game: DotA, there you can’t queue ranked with a party unless you all have close mmr to each other (for GW2 that would mean adjacent divisions +1 -1?). And if you’re not good enough to keep up with your friends maybe you shouldn’t play ranked together, maybe they wont mind you dragging them down but for sure those who got unlucky enough to be put in your team will.

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Posted by: Pyriall.1683

Pyriall.1683

People shouldn’t queue ranked with friends significantly worse than they are, that’s what unranked is for. And that has nothing to do with divisions, but taking your pve player friend and going into unranked is just asking for trouble (for your teammates as well).

Not really anything Anet can do to stop idiots from queuing, unless you can also drop divisions. Overall I’ve had better experience with the new system, but I admit it has flaws as well.

Who is this for? Playing with your friends is what you are suppose to do. Why not just ban bad players from queing as well? Lets just ban all non HOT players/ meta players / Pro level players as well.

Hey everybody play unranked because this guy says if your not of the same skill level of the players around you, you shouldnt be there.

If you’re not of the same skill level, they shouldn’t be there. That’s the purpose of divisions and MMR. It’s not fun playing with someone who isn’t at your level, from both perspectives.

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Posted by: JEFFARR.8163

JEFFARR.8163

Ranked means competitive arena if you want to ha e fun with other friends please play unranked

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Posted by: Locuz.2651

Locuz.2651

Ranked means competitive arena if you want to ha e fun with other friends please play unranked

But if u dont queue with a full five man there is a very good chance youll get matched with or versus beginners who q with higher rated friends. A diamond + amber friend get matched vs diamond or legendary.

Quite hilarious how almost all online games can find better solutions than this. Blizzard for example (u know that company with far better system devs) had no problem figuring out how to implement personal ratings.