Guild Wars 2

What’s the point of having all 3 modes? I see no differences between hot join and solo arena other than one is customizable and the other is standard with queues and way better rewards.

Why split the community this way?

not everyone wants to wait for a match to begin.

please stop blaming hotjoin for your bad experiences in solo arena / team arena already.

differences:

hot join
- no need to wait
- can join in anytime
- can leave anytime
- casual

solo arena
- must wait
- can only join in before start of match
- cannot leave anytime
- competitive

Who said I was blaming hotjoin for anything? I just dont understand why they have the 3 different modes. I can see 2, one for coordinated group effort, and one for joining up solo.

To re-phrase, why have a split between hot-join and solo arena? I don’t see the point.

Solo Arena and Hot Join are both competitive and arguably both casual.

“Why split the community this way?”
i see that as if you are blaming hotjoin due to not enough players in solo arena.

no. you are wrong.
solo arena = competitive
hot join = casual

both cater for different groups of players.

The fact that you can join them by yourself makes them casual.

The fact that you are competing against other players makes them competitive.

You don’t understand the words you use.

90% of the time I can guarantee a win on my team in hotjoins but in soloq its a 50/50 because the majority of players are more skilled.

For example Ive never had anyone try to stop me from taking stillness and tranq in any hotjoin Ive ever played

I heard that in solo queue people try to cap some points and do all kind of other boring stuff. 8 vs 8 hot join is best what sPvP can offer.

Ant.3415:

The fact that you can join them by yourself makes them casual.

The fact that you are competing against other players makes them competitive.

You don’t understand the words you use.

no, you don’t understand.
here, let me help.

ca·su·al
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relaxed and unconcerned.
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made or done without much thought or premeditation.
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done or acting in a desultory way.
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done or acting without sufficient care or thoroughness.
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not regular or permanent, in particular.
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happening by chance; accidental.
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without formality of style or manner, in particular (of clothing) suitable for everyday wear rather than formal occasions.
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a person who does something irregularly.
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clothes or shoes suitable for everyday wear rather than formal occasions.

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of, relating to, or characterized by competition.
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having or displaying a strong desire to be more successful than others.
“she had a competitive streak”
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antonyms: apathetic
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as good as or better than others of a comparable nature.
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com·pete
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verb
1.
strive to gain or win something by defeating or establishing superiority over others who are trying to do the same.
“universities are competing for applicants”
synonyms: take part, participate, play, be a competitor, be involved; More

players who spend time in hotjoins do not necessarily play to win the match. they simply find joy in the process be it winning, losing, escaping from certain death, finding uninterrupted 1 v 1, enjoying zerging etc.

in solo arena it is different. players play to win and blame their random team mates when they lost.

you, clearly, have no idea what casual and competitive means.

Deimos thank you for proving my points for me. Now, the question still stands, why bother having a difference between hot join and solo queue?

IMO
Hotjoin > yoloQ for pvp’ers (no rewards)
Hotjoin < yoloQ for pve’ers (rewards)
TeamQ = voip (mix of pvp’ers and pve’ers)

Ant.3415:

Deimos thank you for proving my points for me. Now, the question still stands, why bother having a difference between hot join and solo queue?

because most people still prefer to play casually on hotjoin servers.

hot join can start and stop anytime.
solo arena cannot.

solo and team arena are separated because when they werent teams were stomping solo players (or even coordinated teams with voip were stomping pugs from the mists who didnt want to join solo, so just getting a team werent always a solution) and it was not fun for both of them… it is better this way…

difference between solo/team and hot join is obvious for everyone i hope… but if its not…

hot join is without any obligations or restrictions, you can join/leave anytime, you can do what you want, you can try new build, you can troll, you can 1v1 if you want and if others let you, its just hot join… solo arena is competitive play and it is required to play seriously, this means punishing for afk, leaving, trolling etc, question is if this punishment is already big enough to force people to take it seriously, but i dont meet many trolls and even leavers are not as common as they used to be