Guild Wars 2

reference to custom arena options (again?) so …
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Custom_Arena#Custom_Arena_options

introduce a new option, call it “Force Play” and if any other fellow hotjoin player can suggest a better name, please do.

this Force Play is enabled by default for all custom arenas official hosted by anet.
with Force Play enabled, the following will occur:
- at the start of a new map load, all players connected to the map will be automatically placed into teams accordingly based on their experience (total amount of games played) and the system will try its best to shuffle a bit before the 10 seconds count down starts
- maybe takes about 5 seconds to shuffle the players into teams
- players can no longer choose teams at the start of a new map load
- players have 5 seconds to exit the respawn area before they are teleported out the nearest exit

yet another one not so good current trend of hotjoin is that, many players do not jump into the game immediately upon a new map load. instead, they wait for one team to pick up a lead in points before they attempt to join the winning team. this new option will attempt to discourage such behavior and force everyone into the battle early on.

yes? no? why?
discuss please.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

at the start of a new map load, all players connected to the map will be automatically placed into teams accordingly based on their experience (total amount of games played) and the system will try its best to shuffle a bit before the 10 seconds count down starts
- maybe takes about 5 seconds to shuffle the players into teams
- players can no longer choose teams at the start of a new map load

this^
we need teams assigned by the system! no more team select nonsense.

if people want to play with friends then there could be an “unassigned mode” with a few servers the way they are now, but all servers covered by the “play now” button should be auto balanced by the system
i like your method of going off matches played, but even rank would be OK,
granted there will always be the odd amazingly skilled rank 30 out there,
but generally as rank increases so does experience.

Liewec.2896:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

at the start of a new map load, all players connected to the map will be automatically placed into teams accordingly based on their experience (total amount of games played) and the system will try its best to shuffle a bit before the 10 seconds count down starts
- maybe takes about 5 seconds to shuffle the players into teams
- players can no longer choose teams at the start of a new map load

this^
we need teams assigned by the system! no more team select nonsense.

if people want to play with friends then there could be an “unassigned mode” with a few servers the way they are now, but all servers covered by the “play now” button should be auto balanced by the system
i like your method of going off matches played, but even rank would be OK,
granted there will always be the odd amazingly skilled rank 30 out there,
but generally as rank increases so does experience.

aye thanks for the support and feedback Liewec!

well, if we can have all 3 “Force Play” plus “Force Balance” as well as “Shuffle” i think hotjoin might be more enjoyable. i think.

i think there should be enough player owned custom arenas around for these default options to be turned off, and turning these off in player owned custom arenas should not disable progression.

and, while we’re at it, maybe increase the daily reward tracks cap for anet hosted servers with all these 3 options? (hmmm let me continue to dream though. it took them months to fix various tool tip descriptions!)

by the way i think some friends dun mind killing each other in hotjoin. i certainly dun.

I’d just be happy to be put in matches with & against players of similar ranks (+5/-5 – - 10 rank spread, for example).

I’m currently rank 20. It’s highly demoralizing to go against r60s-r80s as the game currently likes to do to me.

Likewise, it’s not exactly fair for r10s or less to be grouped up with or against the same r60+ players, much less my r20.

If there is going to be a rank classification/category for players in the GW2 pvp scene, then use it to set up appropriate matches. Otherwise, get rid of it.

So basically, soft solo queue.

Honestly I would have absolutely no problem with hotjoins being completely replaced with soft solo queue.

Sarrs.4831:

So basically, soft solo queue.

Honestly I would have absolutely no problem with hotjoins being completely replaced with soft solo queue.

If you want solo queue, then go play solo queue.

i just had an idea.
leave hotjoin in as a game mode to play with friends
insert a soft solo queue with the features requested in this thread

should be a good idea

what if we can have 2 separate soloqueues? one with a leaderboard and one without?
with the difference that if a team is not full a new player can come in and fill that spot via “play now” button.

Sors Immani.8429:

I’d just be happy to be put in matches with & against players of similar ranks (+5/-5 – - 10 rank spread, for example).

I’m currently rank 20. It’s highly demoralizing to go against r60s-r80s as the game currently likes to do to me.

Likewise, it’s not exactly fair for r10s or less to be grouped up with or against the same r60+ players, much less my r20.

If there is going to be a rank classification/category for players in the GW2 pvp scene, then use it to set up appropriate matches. Otherwise, get rid of it.

well, since it is hotjoin, and the servers are open to everyone, we cannot limit who can join and who cannot. perhaps it would be better if we hide the ranks of players when in spectator mode? i will need to start a new topic for that. unfortunately, those dragon finishers cannot be hidden though.

yes, a team of experienced versus a team of not so experienced is not really fair, that’s why the system should shuffle the teams accordingly, so each team has a fair number of experienced players.

well, as for what your said in your last sentence, i believe there is such as system, for solo arena and team arena, just not in hotjoin though.

Sarrs.4831:

So basically, soft solo queue.

Honestly I would have absolutely no problem with hotjoins being completely replaced with soft solo queue.

yes, but it would still be hotjoin, existing players still can leave, and new players still can come in.

the main concept is that, there should be a quick shuffle before each match, so that both teams have a fair chance. provided that all players tried their best.

runeblade.7514:

Sarrs.4831:

So basically, soft solo queue.

Honestly I would have absolutely no problem with hotjoins being completely replaced with soft solo queue.

If you want solo queue, then go play solo queue.

well, solo arena have a problem of not being able to receive new players to substitute players who left the match early.

Lachanche.6859:

i just had an idea.
leave hotjoin in as a game mode to play with friends
insert a soft solo queue with the features requested in this thread

should be a good idea

well, there are already lots of player owned custom arenas, for players to play together with all their friends.

if 2 friends wanna have some fun in official hotjoin servers, they can still do that, just that, they may not be on the same team, which is not a bad thing at all.

Volrath.1473:

what if we can have 2 separate soloqueues? one with a leaderboard and one without?
with the difference that if a team is not full a new player can come in and fill that spot via “play now” button.

this might work.
perhaps i need to start a new topic for that.

an unranked semi hotjoin solo arena.

but it might take too much work to implement, so they will probably not consider it. T_T