Guild Wars 2

…some newbie rush lord in Foefire at the very start of the game?

Why do newbies think this is a winning play?

Probably because they never learn the right way to play when no matter WHAT they do someone is going “Wow, wtf are you doing. We’re better 4v5, go uninstall and save the world from your disgrace. Your mother should be ashamed,” rather than being helpful and explaining what it is they’re doing wrong and ‘why’.

I can only assume with this thread that you’re not very constructive…

Also, raise your MMR and you’ll deal with ‘noobs’ less frequently:

Even when I explain it’s always followed by, “I win so many games this way…”

My MMR is fine. I have frands with very high MMR who still get matched up with these same players.

SobeSoul.6910:

Even when I explain it’s always followed by, “I win so many games this way…”

My MMR is fine. I have frands with very high MMR who still get matched up with these same players.

Technically you and your friends have no way at all of knowing what your mmr is. So you can’t really make the claim that your or your friend’s mmr is high or fine or anything.

Shaogin.2679:

SobeSoul.6910:

Even when I explain it’s always followed by, “I win so many games this way…”

My MMR is fine. I have frands with very high MMR who still get matched up with these same players. You can factor in decay, but I didn’t decay climb.

Technically you and your friends have no way at all of knowing what your mmr is. So you can’t really make the claim that your or your friend’s mmr is high or fine or anything.

Yes I can. I floated between top 1000 and 92% under the old leaderboard that was strictly MMR based.

there aren’t enough players to make MMR anything more than a formality.

IMO ANET leaves too much in PvP to be discovered rather than explained – just look at the instruction window when you load into the match, it doesn’t even tell you how many points you get for holding a point or scoring a kill. It doesn’t describe how long it takes to cap or decap a point. It doesn’t even tell you how many points you get for secondary objectives. I get that MMO’s are about discovery but PvP shouldn’t be. Explain the rules of your game clearly. Simple as that.

There’s also no clear definition of who’s where in the hierarchy of PvP because… well, there isn’t one. So there’s no way to tell who’s credible and who isn’t. There are differing views all the time but how can you tell who’s worth listening to when it’s basically a blind taste test.

The whole PvP section of the game is mired in a lack of clarity. For example, personal scores still exist even though they have no bearing on anything anymore. And even then you have to play selflessly and disregard your personal score to play the game at what’s considered a high level. Try explaining that to new players. As well, Ranks still exist even though they’ve basically been handed out for free and now contribute to the lack of distinction between experienced players and “newbies”. Your leader board rank and MMR rank share very little, and now with handicapping the matches to make up for poor matchmaking we don’t even know whether we won or lost or how much in either direction or even how many leaderboard points we just earned/lost.

How anyone but the most masochistic is ever supposed to learn this game is beyond me.

SobeSoul.6910:

Shaogin.2679:

SobeSoul.6910:

Even when I explain it’s always followed by, “I win so many games this way…”

My MMR is fine. I have frands with very high MMR who still get matched up with these same players. You can factor in decay, but I didn’t decay climb.

Technically you and your friends have no way at all of knowing what your mmr is. So you can’t really make the claim that your or your friend’s mmr is high or fine or anything.

Yes I can. I floated between top 1000 and 92% under the old leaderboard that was strictly MMR based.

When I played alot in old leaderboards I was in top 100, still wouldn’t say I was good and I doubt my mmr was really that good anyway….. I do wish we could check it though…. I’ve been seeing alot more high level players lately.

NeXeD.3042:

SobeSoul.6910:

Shaogin.2679:

SobeSoul.6910:

Even when I explain it’s always followed by, “I win so many games this way…”

My MMR is fine. I have frands with very high MMR who still get matched up with these same players. You can factor in decay, but I didn’t decay climb.

Technically you and your friends have no way at all of knowing what your mmr is. So you can’t really make the claim that your or your friend’s mmr is high or fine or anything.

Yes I can. I floated between top 1000 and 92% under the old leaderboard that was strictly MMR based.

When I played alot in old leaderboards I was in top 100, still wouldn’t say I was good and I doubt my mmr was really that good anyway….. I do wish we could check it though…. I’ve been seeing alot more high level players lately.

I multiclassed a lot. If I stuck to hambow only I would’ve climbed to top 100 most likely.

Unless you were decay climbing your MMR would have been fairly high.

SobeSoul.6910:

My MMR is fine. I have frands with very high MMR who still get matched up with these same players.

Honestly your mmr is probably either very low because you can’t “carry” your team to 300-400 points. Or you’re mmr is higher than everyone else but placed on the team for balancing.

Oh how I hate this. Even worse is when the enemy team goes lord first and your team thinks it’s a good idea to fight the people hitting the gates (and dying) rather than capture free points. In the same time it takes them to fight them off, could have already triple capped and ticked to 100+ points.