Guild Wars 2

Ok so I’ve mostly been maining scrapper for the last 2 seasons, and from all that playtime I’ve learned that meta ele is a must have and if you don’t have one on your team, chances are you lost. So I tried picking up ele and I don’t know how people do it. When fighting an ele, they have insane survivability, but when I play, I die fairly fast for an ele.

IDK what I’m doing wrong, I’m not familiar with ele as I made it only for pvp, but I thought practice makes perfect and I’m not seeing any improvements. I just faceroll keyboard and when me or my team is low, I just pop auras and overloads, and the occasional earth 5.

Any suggestions to help improve myself?

It is EXACTLY the same as scrapper, as demonstrated here

http://tinyurl.com/jbdyckn

Ross Biddle.2367:

It is EXACTLY the same as scrapper, as demonstrated here

http://tinyurl.com/jbdyckn

hahaha…. i like the gif.

lol i hope you eles are ready for the unnecessary nerfs that are coming

I haven’t encountered an ele I can’t 1v1 yet but when they have a couple warriors or revenants beside them they can be a real pain. I’ve had my whole team go down to a single ele and warrior.

I don’t believe in healing on this game, some say it can be done but I just don’t see it, not in any significant amounts anyways. Bring back monks.

Ellie.5913:

I don’t believe in healing on this game, some say it can be done but I just don’t see it, not in any significant amounts anyways. Bring back monks.

Eles don’t just heal, they buff constantly. A good ele can be almost immortal.

Sooloo.1364:

Ellie.5913:

I don’t believe in healing on this game, some say it can be done but I just don’t see it, not in any significant amounts anyways. Bring back monks.

Eles don’t just heal, they buff constantly. A good ele can be almost immortal.

Welp, I haven’t come across any immortal ones yet,(the last match I played, the ele in my team died constantly to a thief then started chasing the thief and yelling at him for the rest of the match calling him a “bad thief” was pretty funny I lol’d a lot xD) and I have been playing for quite a while. If it’s boons that makes them immortal then that’s pretty useless since mesmers and especially necros can get rid of those boons pretty easily and constantly .

Ellie.5913:

Sooloo.1364:

Ellie.5913:

I don’t believe in healing on this game, some say it can be done but I just don’t see it, not in any significant amounts anyways. Bring back monks.

Eles don’t just heal, they buff constantly. A good ele can be almost immortal.

Welp, I haven’t come across any immortal ones yet,(the last match I played, the ele in my team died constantly to a thief then started chasing the thief and yelling at him for the rest of the match calling him a “bad thief” was pretty funny I lol’d a lot xD) and I have been playing for quite a while. If it’s boons that makes them immortal then that’s pretty useless since mesmers and especially necros can get rid of those boons pretty easily and constantly .

Current meta mes has no boon removal. Shatter mes has it in spades, but he’s weak in the meta (cant handle condi’s, cant stand on point, cant do reliable damage etc). So mes is out. Necro on the otherhand, he’s your only hope XD

Can we get back on topic? I’m interested to know as well. My ele is quite squishy also

@OP – maybe this needs to be asked in the Ele section…

Ross Biddle.2367:

Ellie.5913:

Sooloo.1364:

Ellie.5913:

I don’t believe in healing on this game, some say it can be done but I just don’t see it, not in any significant amounts anyways. Bring back monks.

Eles don’t just heal, they buff constantly. A good ele can be almost immortal.

Welp, I haven’t come across any immortal ones yet,(the last match I played, the ele in my team died constantly to a thief then started chasing the thief and yelling at him for the rest of the match calling him a “bad thief” was pretty funny I lol’d a lot xD) and I have been playing for quite a while. If it’s boons that makes them immortal then that’s pretty useless since mesmers and especially necros can get rid of those boons pretty easily and constantly .

Current meta mes has no boon removal. Shatter mes has it in spades, but he’s weak in the meta (cant handle condi’s, cant stand on point, cant do reliable damage etc). So mes is out. Necro on the otherhand, he’s your only hope XD

Mesmer has lots of boon removals all you need to do is maybe change one of your utility’s and you’ll have some, not everyone plays meta but yea if you want boon removal on mesmer you can have it. And necro has kitten tons of boon removal, they practically never run out of it . Also mesmers can shut down ele pretty easy with moa if they are really good at what they do, not to mention the crap tons of dazes and stuns and all that, I freakin hate fighting against a good mesmer, can’t hardly cast anything.

Ellie.5913:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Ellie.5913:

Sooloo.1364:

Ellie.5913:

I don’t believe in healing on this game, some say it can be done but I just don’t see it, not in any significant amounts anyways. Bring back monks.

Eles don’t just heal, they buff constantly. A good ele can be almost immortal.

Welp, I haven’t come across any immortal ones yet,(the last match I played, the ele in my team died constantly to a thief then started chasing the thief and yelling at him for the rest of the match calling him a “bad thief” was pretty funny I lol’d a lot xD) and I have been playing for quite a while. If it’s boons that makes them immortal then that’s pretty useless since mesmers and especially necros can get rid of those boons pretty easily and constantly .

Current meta mes has no boon removal. Shatter mes has it in spades, but he’s weak in the meta (cant handle condi’s, cant stand on point, cant do reliable damage etc). So mes is out. Necro on the otherhand, he’s your only hope XD

Mesmer has lots of boon removals all you need to do is maybe change one of your utility’s and you’ll have some, not everyone plays meta but yea if you want boon removal on mesmer you can have it. And necro has kitten tons of boon removal, they practically never run out of it . Also mesmers can shut down ele pretty easy with moa if they are really good at what they do, not to mention the crap tons of dazes and stuns and all that, I freakin hate fighting against a good mesmer, can’t hardly cast anything.

Due to the prevailing threat of hard counter condi berserker, some condi chrono’s have opted to swap out signit for null field as stripping that resistance will ruin the berserker’s day.

Otherwise domination must be taken (doesnt fit in meta build), or there’s GS (full power weapon isnt going to see use outside of power/hybrid which would probably take Dom anyway). It’s not that the mesmer doesnt have options, it’s what options are viable.

Of course in the land of pugs there’s always the possibility of rolling over the comp by bringing something they’re not ready for. And in the land of premades you can always comp with prestige.

All this said, swapping out for null field significantly weakens the condi chrono. Illusion sig = 50% reduction in shatter skills and all related effects (dps and sustain), blink = zero stun breaks, and portal = mobility/competitive viability. So ya, don’t act like building for boon strip is a meaningless thing XD

Ross Biddle.2367:

Ellie.5913:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Ellie.5913:

Sooloo.1364:

Ellie.5913:

I don’t believe in healing on this game, some say it can be done but I just don’t see it, not in any significant amounts anyways. Bring back monks.

Eles don’t just heal, they buff constantly. A good ele can be almost immortal.

Welp, I haven’t come across any immortal ones yet,(the last match I played, the ele in my team died constantly to a thief then started chasing the thief and yelling at him for the rest of the match calling him a “bad thief” was pretty funny I lol’d a lot xD) and I have been playing for quite a while. If it’s boons that makes them immortal then that’s pretty useless since mesmers and especially necros can get rid of those boons pretty easily and constantly .

Current meta mes has no boon removal. Shatter mes has it in spades, but he’s weak in the meta (cant handle condi’s, cant stand on point, cant do reliable damage etc). So mes is out. Necro on the otherhand, he’s your only hope XD

Mesmer has lots of boon removals all you need to do is maybe change one of your utility’s and you’ll have some, not everyone plays meta but yea if you want boon removal on mesmer you can have it. And necro has kitten tons of boon removal, they practically never run out of it . Also mesmers can shut down ele pretty easy with moa if they are really good at what they do, not to mention the crap tons of dazes and stuns and all that, I freakin hate fighting against a good mesmer, can’t hardly cast anything.

Due to the prevailing threat of hard counter condi berserker, some condi chrono’s have opted to swap out signit for null field as stripping that resistance will ruin the berserker’s day.

Otherwise domination must be taken (doesnt fit in meta build), or there’s GS (full power weapon isnt going to see use outside of power/hybrid which would probably take Dom anyway). It’s not that the mesmer doesnt have options, it’s what options are viable.

Of course in the land of pugs there’s always the possibility of rolling over the comp by bringing something they’re not ready for. And in the land of premades you can always comp with prestige.

All this said, swapping out for null field significantly weakens the condi chrono. Illusion sig = 50% reduction in shatter skills and all related effects (dps and sustain), blink = zero stun breaks, and portal = mobility/competitive viability. So ya, don’t act like building for boon strip is a meaningless thing XD

Priorities…. depends on what you value most I guess.

And all the while the rest of his team is on you while you try to weaken him, of course they’re all immune to damage as well from his buffs.

Welp so far everyone is giving statements about how ele is invincible and can’t be killed and how he prevents his teammates from being killed also, but not 1 single person has answered the question of how all this is done, and that’s what the OP is asking. Personally I don’t have an answer because I’ve never come across any invincible ele’s, most I see are pretty darn squishy.

All you have to do is look up auramancer on metabattle, it’s right there. He spams auras team wide.

Ellie.5913:

Welp so far everyone is giving statements about how ele is invincible and can’t be killed and how he prevents his teammates from being killed also, but not 1 single person has answered the question of how all this is done, and that’s what the OP is asking. Personally I don’t have an answer because I’ve never come across any invincible ele’s, most I see are pretty darn squishy.

Isn’t it just an understanding of what skills are where, rotating in and out of their atunments properly, and blasting all the appropriate fields that they drop as they go?

Thus taking them down is best done by forcing them through their rotation (by applying appropriate pressure) then locking down and bursting in the appropriate atunement. Only to do this you need appropriate burst potential, with just enough cc, and enough team mates focusing to make sure the job’s done properly.

So in conclusion, to be successful playing ele you need to be a good Rock Band player, mashing keys in time with the beat, shifting with the tempo of the song, building up good multipliers from roll on combos.

These guys aren’t even playing GW2, I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve mapped their keys to a plastic guitar XD

Sooloo.1364:

All you have to do is look up auramancer on metabattle, it’s right there. He spams auras team wide.

There’s your answer OP, go read metabattles and you’ll be invincible

Or learn to be a guitarist in a rock band…. whichever works for you better.

Ellie.5913:

Or learn to be a guitarist in a rock band…. whichever works for you better.

Why do you keep trolling? If you have never faced a good ele then you must be having easy games, congratulations. Nobody said they couldn’t be beaten, but to suggest that a good ele can be dropped as simply as hitting them is foolish.

Hello I have mained ele for 3 years so I hope my advice has some value. Play the class more. Everyone says its god mode but does require knowledge of the class to be played. The best way to learn is to keep trying.
Ele has actually had a harder time in this meta than the previous ones (I quit playing pvp shortly after this season though). I usually take cleansing water instead of powerful aura these days since half your auras can still be given away without that trait.

You don’t have to bunker a point to play support. You might find you survive better just on this rule alone. Don’t sit in damage. I think its better for you to get decapped than to end up dying to a kitten DH that just drops traps to win (daze on traps is actually a big counter to ele because it ruins most overloads)

Sooloo.1364:

Ellie.5913:

Or learn to be a guitarist in a rock band…. whichever works for you better.

Why do you keep trolling? If you have never faced a good ele then you must be having easy games, congratulations. Nobody said they couldn’t be beaten, but to suggest that a good ele can be dropped as simply as hitting them is foolish.

Dude who’s trolling? You sure do sound angry for some reason….. All I did was quote yours and Ross’s suggestions on how to play ele….since the OP’s topic was getting seriously lost in angry rants about how ele is invincible and this and that.

What seems to unify all good eles is that they kite you to hell and back. They never really stay and engage but keep running around backwards in a circle. Makes it hard for some classes to hit them, and they avoid most AoEs.

Yannir.4132:

What seems to unify all good eles is that they kite you to hell and back. They never really stay and engage but keep running around backwards in a circle. Makes it hard for some classes to hit them, and they avoid most AoEs.

This. Its the player behind the ele. I constanty go in and out of a fight. You need to dodgeroll and time your defences, you need to watch for the point to use wash the pain away. An ele is not faceroll unless you want to die in seconds. A good ele however combined with warrior, engi or reveneant is a matchwinner.
One weakness of the ele is a necros boon corrupt. This combined with focus fire can make your life short, because we live and die with protection. And a good thief striking at the right moment will make it quick too … And avoid fighting an ele in 1:1 or 2:2 if you can get points elswere. It´s not worth the time even when you win after a minute …
Play ele in unranked or WvW roaming as i did and after a while you will notice enormeous improvement. I had extreme troubles in the beginning with thiefs, but now i enjoy fighting them.

First of all, Ele is a really reactive class that takes time to learn to play it properly.

I’ll try to give U some gameplay tips that I hope will help U. First thing is undestand that U are a support-bunker build so U are more usefull in teamfights than duels, even if U can bunk 1 or 2 enemies for a while.

Try to kite as much damage as posible using the enviroment (colums….) lign of sight and blink to diferent levels to kite enemies without teleports.

Never use your heal if U or your mates are not under 50% hp, Our damage is not great so always look their hp because they are your “weapons”. If they put preassure on the enemy, U will be more safe.

If U are playing against a hard cc team use your overloads like break stun, never use blink if U can overload because is your only breakstun on demand. Harmonious Conduit could be usefull on these matchs.

If U are playing against hard condi team use invigorating torrents and cleansing water. If U receive a condi bomb 4 on earth could mitigate the preassure.

Always try to be over 75% hp just spamming auras to take advantage of diamond skin.

Never overload water if is not necesary (life or death issue) because be able to change often to water heals U and clean conditions.

Always try to blast your fire fields for might area and leap (3 earth) for an extra aura.

If everythig goes wrong use 5earth for the invul… maybe u lose the point if anyone of your team is on it, but U will survive. never waste dodges during invul time. (sometimes is good to use one dodge at the end if the enemy is good and try to burst U after invul)

If U receive ranged preassure 4 earth and overload earth. To reduce the mele preassure, 3 air and air overload.

Its not a complete explanation of defensive utilities of the class but I hope it can help U to survive x)

English is not my native language and I writting on my phone, so sorry for my mistakes 8p

I forgot to say that 4 air is really good agaist tanged preasure.

Use your CC to help your mates to do damage on enemy keeping them on your areas or to defend yourself and have more time to recover other CDs.

Like other people say before, necros are your worst enemies, so try to focus your team against them to dont allow them to play ofensive and kick them out from the teamfight ASAP

Thank you ApaWanka, your post was spot on