I main a guardian and while playing spvp just now ended up fighting a ranger underwater. I don’t pretend to focus on power but I deal a decent amount of sustained damage. I had an engineer to back me up and the two of us combined couldn’t take down a ranger in downed state once he used his number 3. Never mind the fact that he got up and was downed shortly after 3 times, and that while drowning I tried using interrupts on both him and his pet to stop him. Or that even while his pet was dead it continued to heal him. It’s ridiculous. Either a drowning finishing move needs to be possible or a skill that good needs to be nerfed.
Mercenary for now.
Guardian – Vanessa Guardwell
Warrior – Cnaeus Dane
i´m talking about ranger downed and drowned state need rework for lick wounds since it doesn´t work half of the times. Along 2k+ matches with my ranger is enough to test nº3 usage and reliance.
Just because it doesn’t work 50% of the time or whatever due to a bug,doesn’t mean the ability isn’t overpowered. Underwater it’s ridiculous,because the ranger can move around and the pet heals you even if it’s dead.The heal is so much that you need 3-4 or more people dpsing to kill him.
If I can kill you in 1 shot, but it’s a 50/50 chance (which has no real proof to back the claim besides you saying it’s a 50% shot) and recharged every 20 seconds, is that not overpowered? That’s essentially what it can be compared to. And seeing as I watched him use it and rez 3 times, I’m thinking it works fine.
Mercenary for now.
Guardian – Vanessa Guardwell
Warrior – Cnaeus Dane
I don’t understand how someone can say an ability isn’t overpowered just because it’s bugged. Are you people saying it doesn’t need to be fixed because it doesn’t work right?
i´m talking about ranger downed and drowned state need rework for lick wounds since it doesn´t work half of the times. Along 2k+ matches with my ranger is enough to test nº3 usage and reliance.
You have played against very few rangers.
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^ Ranger abusing downed state underwater.
It’s hilariously broken in any way you look at it.
Level 60 pvp
Ele & thief main (full ascended)
Down with the braindead faceroll classes.
It is op. Only consolation is that on no map that matters is water a factor.
However, i did once have a downed state fight in a temple of the silent storm with a ranger in water, cost u sthe match ><. but thats one out of a lot of games.
Doesn’t work quite as well as you’d think underwater. The pet will continue to res the ranger even if you down it during execution of the skill. There is a huge difference in AI between land and underwater combat.
i’m going to give you this tidbit of info… USE A DAZE OR STUN ON THE PET, it shuts them up instantly and makes them easy pickings, i know i’ve gotten into so many downed ranger vs ranger battles underwater, won every one of them because i’d wait until after they use their lightning flash before using Lick Wounds and then daze their pet so he can’t heal them… so many “Wtf how u outheal? hax!!”
They sing dark, delicious notes about power and family.
As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna
i’m going to give you this tidbit of info… USE A DAZE OR STUN ON THE PET, it shuts them up instantly and makes them easy pickings, i know i’ve gotten into so many downed ranger vs ranger battles underwater, won every one of them because i’d wait until after they use their lightning flash before using Lick Wounds and then daze their pet so he can’t heal them… so many “Wtf how u outheal? hax!!”
I’ve had my pet be dazed, knocked back, sunk, etc and still had it come back to keep on ressing, at least underwater.
i’m going to give you this tidbit of info… USE A DAZE OR STUN ON THE PET, it shuts them up instantly and makes them easy pickings, i know i’ve gotten into so many downed ranger vs ranger battles underwater, won every one of them because i’d wait until after they use their lightning flash before using Lick Wounds and then daze their pet so he can’t heal them… so many “Wtf how u outheal? hax!!”
I’ve had my pet be dazed, knocked back, sunk, etc and still had it come back to keep on ressing, at least underwater.
this is underwater, you gotta daze or stun the pet, pulls, knock backs, launches etc WILL NOT STOP HIM.
They sing dark, delicious notes about power and family.
As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna
Pet heal underwater is bugged and it continues to heal even after you ‘kill it’ (cause it actually never dies) or after an interrupt, rangers are now unkillable most of the time under water you will prolly always see them running to water if they are about to die.
However on ground its fine.
i’m going to give you this tidbit of info… USE A DAZE OR STUN ON THE PET, it shuts them up instantly and makes them easy pickings, i know i’ve gotten into so many downed ranger vs ranger battles underwater, won every one of them because i’d wait until after they use their lightning flash before using Lick Wounds and then daze their pet so he can’t heal them… so many “Wtf how u outheal? hax!!”
I’ve had my pet be dazed, knocked back, sunk, etc and still had it come back to keep on ressing, at least underwater.
this is underwater, you gotta daze or stun the pet, pulls, knock backs, launches etc WILL NOT STOP HIM.
Ele’s don’t have stuns nor dazes underwater on demand, what do?
(air 5 won’t work)
In fact, I don’t think many classes have stuns or dazes underwater…
Level 60 pvp
Ele & thief main (full ascended)
Down with the braindead faceroll classes.
I don’t get why people try and defend an OP skill. Saying that “it works 50% of the time” is irrelevant. Being bugged and being OP are two entirely different things (unless it’s OP because it’s bugged which isn’t the case here)
Yeah. A decent ranger is pain in the kitten when camping on underwater node in Raid on the Capricorn. You just cant take it away from him unless you zerg him. It is good that Capricorn is not part of the “pro” meta but still some minor tweak to their downed’s “3” would be good. As others mentioned, “3” on land is perfectly fine and if its bugged in any way, it should be fixed as well.
got 1v1 with ranger in WvW today… he goes underwater when he was losing… then got downed… then his pet ressurected him against all my dps even when i used sink on his pet totally OP
I agree aquam… ranger can be pretty much unkillable 1vs1 if the pet ress happens to work. Tone down the pet ress underwater and to compesate make rangers op on land like some profs are.
Poor rangers, only considered op when underwater and in downed state
i’m going to give you this tidbit of info… USE A DAZE OR STUN ON THE PET, it shuts them up instantly and makes them easy pickings, i know i’ve gotten into so many downed ranger vs ranger battles underwater, won every one of them because i’d wait until after they use their lightning flash before using Lick Wounds and then daze their pet so he can’t heal them… so many “Wtf how u outheal? hax!!”
I’ve had my pet be dazed, knocked back, sunk, etc and still had it come back to keep on ressing, at least underwater.
this is underwater, you gotta daze or stun the pet, pulls, knock backs, launches etc WILL NOT STOP HIM.
Ele’s don’t have stuns nor dazes underwater on demand, what do?
(air 5 won’t work)
In fact, I don’t think many classes have stuns or dazes underwater…
Yes you do, Lightning Cage + Air Bubble, do you play underwater?
They sing dark, delicious notes about power and family.
As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna
I would gladly give up my water res if the devs would only fix lick wounds when on the ground. Ppl not playing a ranger can’t even fathom how many times this skill bugs out. In spvp, for me it works maybe 1 out 4 times, if even that.
It’s simply the most bugged downstate skill out of all the classes.
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i’m going to give you this tidbit of info… USE A DAZE OR STUN ON THE PET, it shuts them up instantly and makes them easy pickings, i know i’ve gotten into so many downed ranger vs ranger battles underwater, won every one of them because i’d wait until after they use their lightning flash before using Lick Wounds and then daze their pet so he can’t heal them… so many “Wtf how u outheal? hax!!”
I’ve had my pet be dazed, knocked back, sunk, etc and still had it come back to keep on ressing, at least underwater.
this is underwater, you gotta daze or stun the pet, pulls, knock backs, launches etc WILL NOT STOP HIM.
Ele’s don’t have stuns nor dazes underwater on demand, what do?
(air 5 won’t work)
In fact, I don’t think many classes have stuns or dazes underwater…
Yes you do, Lightning Cage + Air Bubble, do you play underwater?
1 – air bubble won’t stop the pet res, as sink doesn’t either.
2 – lightning cage only stuns if something enters the area, not on something already in the area.
i’m going to give you this tidbit of info… USE A DAZE OR STUN ON THE PET, it shuts them up instantly and makes them easy pickings, i know i’ve gotten into so many downed ranger vs ranger battles underwater, won every one of them because i’d wait until after they use their lightning flash before using Lick Wounds and then daze their pet so he can’t heal them… so many “Wtf how u outheal? hax!!”
I’ve had my pet be dazed, knocked back, sunk, etc and still had it come back to keep on ressing, at least underwater.
this is underwater, you gotta daze or stun the pet, pulls, knock backs, launches etc WILL NOT STOP HIM.
Ele’s don’t have stuns nor dazes underwater on demand, what do?
(air 5 won’t work)
In fact, I don’t think many classes have stuns or dazes underwater…
Yes you do, Lightning Cage + Air Bubble, do you play underwater?
1 – air bubble won’t stop the pet res, as sink doesn’t either.
2 – lightning cage only stuns if something enters the area, not on something already in the area.
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Level 60 pvp
Ele & thief main (full ascended)
Down with the braindead faceroll classes.
i’m going to give you this tidbit of info… USE A DAZE OR STUN ON THE PET, it shuts them up instantly and makes them easy pickings, i know i’ve gotten into so many downed ranger vs ranger battles underwater, won every one of them because i’d wait until after they use their lightning flash before using Lick Wounds and then daze their pet so he can’t heal them… so many “Wtf how u outheal? hax!!”
I’ve had my pet be dazed, knocked back, sunk, etc and still had it come back to keep on ressing, at least underwater.
this is underwater, you gotta daze or stun the pet, pulls, knock backs, launches etc WILL NOT STOP HIM.
Ele’s don’t have stuns nor dazes underwater on demand, what do?
(air 5 won’t work)
In fact, I don’t think many classes have stuns or dazes underwater…
Yes you do, Lightning Cage + Air Bubble, do you play underwater?
1 – air bubble won’t stop the pet res, as sink doesn’t either.
2 – lightning cage only stuns if something enters the area, not on something already in the area.
facepalm
1) sinking/floating DELAY the effect of rezzing, the pet will not and can not Rez hike under the effects and must get back to the ranger before continuing, that said it doesn’t interrupt the pet, just delays the inevitable so don’t rely on them unless you have some sick damage (warrior spear burst I’m LOOKING AT YOU!)
2) you cast the cage, which surrounds the pet, then you float (or sink) the pet so he crosses the cage, thus stunning him, if it only works on the way in (I have NEVER had it work that way on my ele) then float him out of the cage, swap to earth and sink him back into it.
EDIT: undercurrent (I believe it’s #4 on water attunement) is another sink, so you have options.
They sing dark, delicious notes about power and family.
As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna
I named my pet after a dog i dislike and he didnt heal me but my other one named after a pet that i did like did heal me, give ur pet good name and itll heal you. Ur welcome -kuruppt
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Bunker rangers tanking more dmg when downed underwater than while they’re up…2 dps can’t kill a drowning ranger due to the massive pet regen (Also with dead pet lol)…he just get up fighting, then going down again and so on…
Already downed eles going mist form and escaping into water (Or am I supposed to follow a “downed” ele underwater for the whole kittening map to kill him if i down him near water?)
Wars always going vengeance 1vs1…i mean…every single time…
Yeah sure this is ok….come on…
Just put a dam underwater stomp already…is this so hard to see?
I’ve had many instances where the pet is dead and the Ranger is regenerating health extremely rapidly underwater. It is impossible to CC a Pet that is dead.
This is a bug that needs to be fixed. I’d have no problem with it if the Pet was alive and able to be stopped through either damage or control.
Honestly the only things that upset me underwater are Thieves and drowning Rangers, simply because they take forever to kill. This is coming from an Engineer underwater, which is frankly overpowered underwater.
I’ve had many instances where the pet is dead and the Ranger is regenerating health extremely rapidly underwater. It is impossible to CC a Pet that is dead.
This is a bug that needs to be fixed. I’d have no problem with it if the Pet was alive and able to be stopped through either damage or control.
Honestly the only things that upset me underwater are Thieves and drowning Rangers, simply because they take forever to kill. This is coming from an Engineer underwater, which is frankly overpowered underwater.
It is not a bug.
If you were only to kill the pet to stop lick wounds from working, you might as well get rid of the skill all together.
Pets are supposed to be able to res, even when downed.
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Does it work differently on land? I’ve never had a Ranger seem to endlessly heal on land, and I don’t often stomp. Interesting if it’s actually not a bug, but still ridiculous regardless.
Without going glass cannon, you simply will not have the DPS to kill a Ranger in the current state underwater. As far as I’m concerned as well, the ability to self-rez yourself with the Pet is one of the better #3 downed abilities. I don’t see how it’s useless if it no longer functions when the pet is dead, but that’s probably because I don’t play a Ranger.
Yes, it’s OP, but underwater combat is a mess anyways, and underwater downed state in particular due to the lack of stomps and possibility of moving around even while self-ressing. Have you seen how Warriors have an almost guaranteed vengeance? Denying that is being either ignorant or biased.
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“You can’t have more than 10 HS decks because that would confuse people”
“30 fps is more cinematic”
skill for rangers are good, but here are the major drawbacks:
On land, it bugs so often it’s not even funny. I can guarantee you that 3 out of 4 times in pvp, the skill bugs out and the pet stands next to you doing nothing (some pets are worse than others for some odd reason, another bug with the skill)
You have to wait – what, 8, 10 seconds before you can even activate the skill. 9 out 10 times you’ll get stomped long before that, or stomped during the res phase
In water it’s powerful, but that has more to do with the lack of a stomping ability underwater, and in general far lower dps for all classes – therein lies the problem with underwater combat, not this particular skill
If anything, the ever evading thief is the biggest annoyance of all while under water – how the hell did they come up with that bright idea?
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Yes, Lick Wounds under water heals for a ton more than it ever does on land. This is old, old news. No one talks about it much since
1.) most rangers don’t even live when downed for #3 to be off cooldown
2.) its under-water combat…who cares
As noted, Lick Wounds is bugged on land where it doesn’t work at all 50% of the time and if you want to see a kitten off Ranger community then wait for the moment when Arenanet fixes the bug the underwater bug that no one cares about and continues to ignore the other bug that people have been screaming about for months
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totally OP
