Guild Wars 2

I stopped playing a month ago due to imbalance being ridiculous and the in game pvp community having crap attitudes. So just curious, how is everyone enjoying PvP these days? Worth coming back?

Nobody is capable of answering this question aside from yourself.

No one’s capable of answering how they enjoy PvP these days?

Choops.3710:

No one’s capable of answering how they enjoy PvP these days?

Wasn’t going to make a near useless post, but I do agree that there is no better way to find out than to try it yourself.

CENSOR.6081:

1. Mesmer

2. Thief
3. Elementalist
4. Engineer
5. Guardian
6. Necromancer

7. Warrior

!. Ranger

What is that, a power ranking? I dunno about all that warrior in seventh business.

To be honest that list isn’t very accurate. Unless faced with a well orgsanised and balanced (in terms of classes) the ranger does incredibly well if traited right. I don’t have much problem with any class as ranger except the usual lurking backstab thief you never see.
The major issues with Spvp are too many to list but a few are:

The loading screen bug that perma-roots you in loading screen during matches resulting on you having to kill the game and restart.
The complete lack of meaningful fixes to obvious and well documented class equilibrium.
0.5 second quickness burst deaths.
Bunker builds outlasting 3 or 4 players.
The lack of players actually bothering with PvP.

I could go on but basically nothing at all has changed within a month except perhaps less people playing GW2 in general, leading to either hardcore players or people just starting out. This often leads to 500 – 150 win/loss as an example.
I am very close to quitting altogether and like many posts I read recently I doubt I would return.

still conquest so still boring … imbalaced stuff its not an issue game still new … and community well what can i say.

Odd View Sarvong.1098:

CENSOR.6081:

1. Mesmer

2. Thief
3. Elementalist
4. Engineer
5. Guardian
6. Necromancer

7. Warrior

!. Ranger

What is that, a power ranking? I dunno about all that warrior in seventh business.

If it’s about control then yeah it’s 7th for them or 8th.

Well, I logged on for a few to see how it was. First game I got frozen on the loading screen after a respawn. Good to see progress has been made since the last time I played it, lol

Choops.3710:

No one’s capable of answering how they enjoy PvP these days?

It sucks, because its boring. It seems since the last Beta that spec diversity has actually shrunk, necromancers never really recovered I don’t think, there is really nothing to do besides spam conditions for the most part. Boards are small as well so its just Zerg condition spam. Combat is fast, effects do not last long, focus on damage skills, control, healing, lifedrains, fear are all nutcut compared to damage skills. Translates the same way in WvWvW, no control one big moving zombie zerg. There are very few moments in the game where you will EVER have a 1v1 match in WvW or spvp, and dueling is just not the same, pvp has alot of problems.

Maybe if they had some more casual friendly pvp games to play while they FIX the broken mess that is pvp some people would be able to hang on longer. Like the Hunger games thing they did in beta, cap the flag or something.. anything. But after that last ninja patch I doubt they will hang around much longer.

Garbage at this moment. They make some classes easy to play for 5-year olds like Mesmers and Engis, while some classes take work to be effective (Necros, Ele, Ranger, Warrior, Guardian, Thief debate-able). No infrastructure to help people actually learn how this game is supposed to be played, ANET being a bunch of preachers on how tournies should be played via Kylho and Mesmers.

Hopefully ANET actually pulls their selves together and actually fix things that need to be fixed.

The following is pure opinion:

1. Bursts still kill you in 3 seconds if you’re not careful (this is really not fun imo and you should never ever be able to die in 3 seconds unless you’re being gunned down by a huge mob)
2. Annoying classes are still annoying: Mesmers, Thieves, Guardians, Warriors (The HB Nubs)
3. There’s only one sPVP mode and it’s a boring mode. I really wish there was death match or capture the flag!
4. It’s all about the zerg because holding a point doesn’t give you any glory so the only way to get glory is to run with the zerg even if it means losing a cap point
5. Classes are still unbalanced and there are many bugged skills/traits
6. sPVP combat is very twitch-based and there’s very few tactics involved. I really wish things were more cerebral and players were able to complement each others’ playstyles more (comboing in each others’ fields). I know this is a strange suggestion, but I think it’d be easier to combo with other people if the elemental fields were more obvious and comboing in them made a more noticeable effect/text just to make things more blatant, like if there was a big “Might!” text or “Stealth!” text.
7. It’s DEFINITELY not true that any class can use whatever playstyle they want and not be punished for it.
8. You run into some really kitteny teams in sPVP sometimes and then other times, really good teams due to no matchmaking.
9. There’s an obvious skill gap. And it’s obvious due to no matchmaking.

But aside from all the negatives, PVP is still fun sometimes (and some times not)

It’s funny that people can complain that there is no skill in PvP and yet simultaneously complain that good teams destroy PUGs.

Obviously, there is something there that makes them win. And I doubt it’s superior twitch reflexes.

Rieselle.5079:

It’s funny that people can complain that there is no skill in PvP and yet simultaneously complain that good teams destroy PUGs.

Obviously, there is something there that makes them win. And I doubt it’s superior twitch reflexes.

I forgot to clarify that I was talking about sPVP (kitten, people barely res each other in sPVP). I don’t have a premade team for tPVP and don’t bother. Obviously, in tPVP, if a team is organized and know what points to cap and which caps need help and such, they function a lot better. They’re also used to playing with each other and know what to do.

SecondtoNone.7549:

Rieselle.5079:

It’s funny that people can complain that there is no skill in PvP and yet simultaneously complain that good teams destroy PUGs.

Obviously, there is something there that makes them win. And I doubt it’s superior twitch reflexes.

I forgot to clarify that I was talking about sPVP (kitten, people barely res each other in sPVP). I don’t have a premade team for tPVP and don’t bother. Obviously, in tPVP, if a team is organized and know what points to cap and which caps need help and such, they function a lot better. They’re also used to playing with each other and know what to do.

TPvP is no better. Don’t let the students and dole-bludgers fool you into thinking they’re on another level because their only achievement is a pixelated star to their avatar. It’s just artificial fun having specific classes, in specific builds, stationed at specific places, doing one specific role; like an incredibly obsequious parent from Teen Cribs.

CENSOR.6081:

SecondtoNone.7549:

Rieselle.5079:

It’s funny that people can complain that there is no skill in PvP and yet simultaneously complain that good teams destroy PUGs.

Obviously, there is something there that makes them win. And I doubt it’s superior twitch reflexes.

I forgot to clarify that I was talking about sPVP (kitten, people barely res each other in sPVP). I don’t have a premade team for tPVP and don’t bother. Obviously, in tPVP, if a team is organized and know what points to cap and which caps need help and such, they function a lot better. They’re also used to playing with each other and know what to do.

TPvP is no better. Don’t let the students and dole-bludgers fool you into thinking they’re on another level because their only achievement is a pixelated star to their avatar. It’s just artificial fun having specific classes, in specific builds, stationed at specific places, doing one specific role; like an incredibly obsequious parent from Teen Cribs.

pretty much hit the nail on the head with this one.. its not often superiour skill altho maybe for a few teams it is skill but the majority just takes massive advantage of certain team set ups and fotm and easymode classes and communication wich requires no skill just a vent or mumble or ts channel to roll up pugs..

tpvp is no skill even paid tournaments arent that skillfull imo its still the same bs standard team setups with the same class specs and rng at work..

CENSOR.6081:

SecondtoNone.7549:

Rieselle.5079:

It’s funny that people can complain that there is no skill in PvP and yet simultaneously complain that good teams destroy PUGs.

Obviously, there is something there that makes them win. And I doubt it’s superior twitch reflexes.

I forgot to clarify that I was talking about sPVP (kitten, people barely res each other in sPVP). I don’t have a premade team for tPVP and don’t bother. Obviously, in tPVP, if a team is organized and know what points to cap and which caps need help and such, they function a lot better. They’re also used to playing with each other and know what to do.

TPvP is no better. Don’t let the students and dole-bludgers fool you into thinking they’re on another level because their only achievement is a pixelated star to their avatar. It’s just artificial fun having specific classes, in specific builds, stationed at specific places, doing one specific role; like an incredibly obsequious parent from Teen Cribs.

So, pretty much sPVP but the team actually talks to each other? I figured. Talking to each other really does help a lot though.

You still can’t outplay enemys significantly and Quickness remains unchanged. Stealth culling got fixed at least.
In summary PvP is still a casual fun instead of the advertised competetive environment.

Choops.3710:

I stopped playing a month ago due to imbalance being ridiculous and the in game pvp community having crap attitudes. So just curious, how is everyone enjoying PvP these days? Worth coming back?

Biggest disappointing feature in game.

its basicly 4 bunkers and a thief mostly in tournaments seem to work best.. should rename this game to bunkerwars.. cause basicly thats what it is.. spec into toughness vit get stability and some heals and some super elites and youre basicly unkillable untill 4 people start beating on you.. its verry zzz..

nothing changed and nothing will change soon i think.. but who knows might be wrong..

The game is free remember…its not like a subscription renewal is holding you back….log in and try for yourself

Hoewever to answer your question…sPVP is still a complete dissapointment in this game…nothing like GW1 was nor any other PVP game for that matter.

Considering you quit after 4 weeks of playing the answer is no and always will be no. WOW is the place for you, now for the rest of us willing to continue to put the time in and offering constructive feedback based on gameplay experience longer than 2 weeks the answer is yes.

its dead, theirs noone queueing outside of peak time for paid tournaments and inside them the few try hard teams (“pro teams”) farm the more normal people who dont invest 6 hours a night every night earning a currency that buys nothing that yet exists, frees are easy enough to get into quick but everyone in them these days is low rank and awful so its likely just the pve’ers having a go for fun and so you can win without armour or comp easily enough. The game play is fine bar a few issues for what it is, and actually probably the best mmo pvp system in a game imo. However the excitement long since passed due to the awful systems in place for spvp competition and with it went 80% of the people.
I didn’t actually realise it was as bad as it is until today at 1500 hrs i queued for paids and for 45 mins was the only team in the queue. Which says it all. The argument that when its all sorted people will flock back is nonsense maybe 2 in 10 might have a look but with the current systems plus how bad the game is to watch (average stream views of sub 200 across all streamers). Its dead, and actually dead faster than swtor which shocks me as the game is sooo good in alot of ways.

Yea, PvP in GW2 is probably the fastest dying PvP in any mmo. It’s sad because the gameplay and combat is by far the best out of any mmo.

Teabaker.9524:

Yea, PvP in GW2 is probably the fastest dying PvP in any mmo. It’s sad because the gameplay and combat is by far the best out of any mmo.

Agreed. The moment a player gets to rank 10 (… at least on my server), it’s more one vs one than teams.

i hate reading posts like this because its true i had over 6 ppl quit now in the last 4 days. after they fix this i have to rebuild a team again.

we had the top pvp guild in swtor but the same thing happened and i think that left a bad taste in alot of ppls mouths. when pvp starts dieing its a ripple affect that just crushes ppl.

but i will tell you all this i have 100% faith in anet they are going to read post probably sunday night and monday after there vacation will have some answers for us.

so all you that quit or are quitting please come back give them a chance and if they put in the advanced option i think we will have over 400 teams playing competitivly by next month then they add a ladder to that omg great game.

to hear about the advanced game go to https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/great-idea-what-do-you-think/first#post843913

Honestly, though. When you’re on a server, by yourself… for 10 minutes. It really kills the fun. Now, it’s more based on luck to find a decent game to participate in.

!http://i.imgur.com/ZZjLO.jpg!

There’s almost no incentive to keep playing or trying PvP.

Kim Huynh.6412:

Teabaker.9524:

Yea, PvP in GW2 is probably the fastest dying PvP in any mmo. It’s sad because the gameplay and combat is by far the best out of any mmo.

Agreed. The moment a player gets to rank 10 (… at least on my server), it’s more one vs one than teams.

Really? I think it really depends on how you play. If you’re a roamer or a if you run with a zerg. I’m lvl 16 and I haven’t noticed an increase in 1v1 battles.

Teabaker.9524:

Yea, PvP in GW2 is probably the fastest dying PvP in any mmo. It’s sad because the gameplay and combat is by far the best out of any mmo.

I think 50% of the reason for it being dead is the combat. Too simple.

bcbully.7289:

Teabaker.9524:

Yea, PvP in GW2 is probably the fastest dying PvP in any mmo. It’s sad because the gameplay and combat is by far the best out of any mmo.

I think 50% of the reason for it being dead is the combat. Too simple.

Yes I’m with you. I completely disagree that the combat is good. I think it is terrible in many ways. Mainly being over simple but there are other things I have noticed which annoy me a lot (no gcd; self-rooting channelled cast-time lock-you-in animations; doesn’t feel fluid; too high damage/burst for the kind of game it is; highly latency dependent kitten like dodge).

I also disagree with the guy earlier who mentioned “skill gap” as a problem (though I agreed with most of his other points). Nope I dont see it. I miss raging from being outplayed. pvp is just meh don’t care, regardless of whether im winning or losing.

^ If you miss raging from being outplayed, queue up for some paids.

No one cares if they win or lose in hotjoin because it’s a zergfest with 0 skill required.

Tynan.6279:

Considering you quit after 4 weeks of playing the answer is no and always will be no. WOW is the place for you, now for the rest of us willing to continue to put the time in and offering constructive feedback based on gameplay experience longer than 2 weeks the answer is yes.

See, this is the kind of crap attitude in the community I was talking about. Because I considered the PvP sub par (not the combat, just class balance, map variety, etc) and took a break in hopes it would be fixed, I’m no longer part of some elitist club. I played GW2 since pre-purchase up until the Halloween event. I’ve had gameplay experience longer than 2 weeks. kitten
For everyone else, thank you for your input and responses. As always, useful and well thought out responses are appreciated

bcbully.7289:

Teabaker.9524:

Yea, PvP in GW2 is probably the fastest dying PvP in any mmo. It’s sad because the gameplay and combat is by far the best out of any mmo.

I think 50% of the reason for it being dead is the combat. Too simple.

And yet, despite complaining non-stop for 2 months, you’re still here

Guess that means that even the haters actually love GW2

It still has issues, but theyre slowly being adressed.

I don’t think they can fix the issues with this game fast enough to keep it from imploding. The bugs and class balance are just too much and Anet is just too slow to respond. I couldn’t get a single one of my friends to buy the game after the free weekend. They loved the PvE but after PvP for an hour they were done.

Mezers need to be toned down a lot
Theifs need to be toned down and the stealth cooldown debuff needs to be extended

Anet wont make these changes so people are going to leave and it sucks.