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Posted by: Jagdtiger.2517

Jagdtiger.2517

Remove Magi’s Amulet. DPS classes can solokill Mender’s Ventari rev and it dies much faster in +1s but Magi’s Amulet makes it a real pain with the extra health and healing. Anet removed all the other healing bunker amulets but for some reason left Magi’s Amulet, all they have to do is finish the job and Ventari rev will cease to exist.

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Posted by: Zintrothen.1056

Zintrothen.1056

You want the whole build gone? Give me a break… this post is screaming L2P. Amulets are so rarely the problem with balance. Ventari has weaknesses. Learn them and abuse them.

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Posted by: Lilyanna.9361

Lilyanna.9361

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
..Wait
You were actually serious?
You actually have issues something that is not a DPS class?
Oh golly gee, let me go sit down and watch another person qq about supports again

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Posted by: Jagdtiger.2517

Jagdtiger.2517

I found some ventari rev players/players whose teammates play ventari rev and carry them in ATs vs much better players.

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Posted by: Lilyanna.9361

Lilyanna.9361

And your point?
That is tournies, which is different compared to if you were playing in rank.
Of course builds that are less popular, and require more coordination is going to be better compared to ranked where you literally pug.
Have you not read any of the threads about Ventari Rev?
Are you new?
It physically struggles if you do not have, at least, three people to coordinate with.
Tempests, Druids, and Support Guardians literally do everything better than this build.
It’s only viability is literally within WvW.

So let me ask again, are you actually serious about this complaint?
You just sound like ‘that guy’ who wants to gut EVERY single support build in this game and pidgeon-hole people to DPS things mindlessly.

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Posted by: Jagdtiger.2517

Jagdtiger.2517

I literally have no clue what any of you are talking about. WvW??? Why would I care about zerging in WvW? The fact is, there are teams in ATs that are very, very poor in terms of mechanics, that end up going to finals everytime and sometimes even winning versus MUCH better opponents just because ventari rev is completely unkillable 1v1 in ANY MATCHUP. This is NOT THE SAME as ele or druid or support guardian which CAN BE KILLED through good rotations and 1v1 setup. Also, it’s comical that you think playing versus bunkers is more fun than playing versus DPS classes, you’re just showing that you’re not skilled enough to play meta rev and now you’re trying to protect your precious faceroll build because its broken OP and it’s the only spec you’re able to beat good players with. Ventari rev is ridiculously broken, there are players on NA that were never even remotely good that got to legend tier on ventari rev, its ridiculous. EVEN IF YOU LOVE TO PLAY VENTARI REV, at least accept that fact that magi’s amulet is the only remaining pure bunker amulet and should be removed like the rest.

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Posted by: Lord Velar.1509

Lord Velar.1509

You have a complaint….about a build for a class…..that doesn’t deal damage……but heals instead…..are….youre new here aren’t you?

So ok lets get rid of eles and druids too

kitten it, get rid of support guards and might warriors too

Better yet why stop there, throw away thieves venom share, get rid of mesmers mass stealth

See how stupid you sound?

Everyone knows that bunker revs lack damage big time and can only play defensively, so the fact that youre complaining about it is just………it made my brain scream for lack of better words

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Posted by: Lilyanna.9361

Lilyanna.9361

Actually no, I don’t main Ventari Rev at all.
I actually main auramancer.
You can take several seats now.

And if you think only Mender’s deserve to be the ONLY VIABLE support amulet.
You actually can go find the door right now.
Because the fact that you are trying to advocate and push supports builds out, and only try to pull offensive builds in says something about YOU.
I want an equal balance of support and damage, thus far you have only talked about wanting to gut /support/ amulets.

This is not Call of Duty my dude, this is a game that needs to have Support, Bunker, Damage.
Not damage, damage, and more damage.
Smh, as I said, keep QQing, I’m gonna enjoy every moment of it while you cry and whine about not being able to deal with a class.

As the person has said above me, you have a L2P issue.

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Posted by: Lord Velar.1509

Lord Velar.1509

Actually no, I don’t main Ventari Rev at all.
I actually main auramancer.
You can take several seats now.

And if you think only Mender’s deserve to be the ONLY VIABLE support amulet.
You actually can go find the door right now.
Because the fact that you are trying to advocate and push supports builds out, and only try to pull offensive builds in says something about YOU.
I want an equal balance of support and damage, thus far you have only talked about wanting to gut /support/ amulets.

This is not Call of Duty my dude, this is a game that needs to have Support, Bunker, Damage.
Not damage, damage, and more damage.
Smh, as I said, keep QQing, I’m gonna enjoy every moment of it while you cry and whine about not being able to deal with a class.

As the person has said above me, you have a L2P issue.

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Posted by: messiah.1908

messiah.1908

LOL

you say you can handle mender which has 3.5k hp less and less than 100 hps from skill
so this is the reason you cant kill magi amulet 3.5k hp?
also you know magi has no pressure at all compare to mender which means any class can AA easily ….

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Posted by: Jagdtiger.2517

Jagdtiger.2517

I see that I’ve been brigaded by bronze and silver players so there’s no point of continuing this conversation.

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Posted by: Lilyanna.9361

Lilyanna.9361

Too bad that most of the people that actually give constructive conversations on these forums are gold+ and plat +
Move along now kiddo

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Posted by: Lord Velar.1509

Lord Velar.1509

LMAO yeah, my plat badge must be fake

Funny thing is, most of us on the forums are usually plat and higher, soooooo your point was?

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Posted by: Saiyan.1704

Saiyan.1704

I see that I’ve been brigaded by bronze and silver players so there’s no point of continuing this conversation.

That’s a good reply to have after having no other rebuttal for the convo.

btw Plat T2 here.

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Posted by: warherox.7943

warherox.7943

Ventari Rev and the other healing builds are not OP. We already lost Minstrel’s and Cleric’s amulets, and lost all of the support sigils.

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Posted by: Jakal.9582

Jakal.9582

I hate the idea of removing more build diversity simply because you don’t know how to deal with it. If you are having a difficult time with a particular build, then learn to fight it, create a new build to counter act it, do something. Don’t come onto the forums and complain, saying that a build needs to be taken out completely. All that does is destroy build diversity, which lessens the game experience for everyone. I can’t believe that someone would advocate the removal of an entire build.

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Posted by: Solori.6025

Solori.6025

Actually no, I don’t main Ventari Rev at all.
I actually main auramancer.
You can take several seats now.

And if you think only Mender’s deserve to be the ONLY VIABLE support amulet.
You actually can go find the door right now.
Because the fact that you are trying to advocate and push supports builds out, and only try to pull offensive builds in says something about YOU.
I want an equal balance of support and damage, thus far you have only talked about wanting to gut /support/ amulets.

This is not Call of Duty my dude, this is a game that needs to have Support, Bunker, Damage.
Not damage, damage, and more damage.
Smh, as I said, keep QQing, I’m gonna enjoy every moment of it while you cry and whine about not being able to deal with a class.

As the person has said above me, you have a L2P issue.

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Posted by: CutesySylveon.8290

CutesySylveon.8290

This is so ridiculous that it made my day on its own. Ventari magi not only has no damage, but most of the healing is outgoing, rather than to the rev. So if you’re having trouble killing one 1v1, then the issue is with you.

Seriously, I have a fully ascended set of magi armor I use in PvE and WvW and I can heal someone for 14k with monk runes, food, and sigils. I get about 5.4k of that to myself. I get a little over 1/3 of the healing I output. Apply this to PvP where the numbers are about half this, and you have a nice fat l2p issue.

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Posted by: Exciton.8942

Exciton.8942

I hate the idea of removing more build diversity simply because you don’t know how to deal with it. If you are having a difficult time with a particular build, then learn to fight it, create a new build to counter act it, do something. Don’t come onto the forums and complain, saying that a build needs to be taken out completely. All that does is destroy build diversity, which lessens the game experience for everyone. I can’t believe that someone would advocate the removal of an entire build.

I have no problem destroying builds who just face tank everything and spam skills while still remaining alive. I don’t know what the point is for such build.

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Posted by: messiah.1908

messiah.1908

ok i tell you a secret. send a condi necro to kill the magi ventari. after 1 condi burst rev will switch as he wont have nrg left. than another burst and he dead.
even good mesmer can take it down but its more trickier as he need to hit you with 2 burst at least. necro just AA and have fun.