Guild Wars 2

Im really curious because i want this to be a main gamemode. I respect conquest for what it is but i dont like the heavy focus on the team and the fact that a miss play by someone can kitten you up objective wise. I prefer the small scale of teams in 2v2 and the focus on jsut wiping the enemy out. So yeah give feedback make suggestion all that good stuff. And be civilised.

I wish i could tell you, but since there is no queue for it, it has been impossible for me to find people to do it with. I’ve found one other, but the match doesn’t start until all 4 people are inside.

I attempted to try it out myself but it never managed to get 4 people for it.

It’s more fun than I thought it would be (thought it’d be great, but it’s awesome) What you’d think would be issues in terms of class vs class on the map, isn’t.

The biggest issue with the game mode…

• ..it’s not a game mode. This in itself causes several outlying issues
• It’s click wars, fighting with other players to enter the map by spam clicking the Join Team button.
• The custom arena map only holds 25 people during peek hours so I can’t fight particular players if I can’t join the match.
• Sometimes there’s split players throughout the custom arena’s that people eventually lose interest in trying to get a 2v2 going.
• Trolls still happen
• Mods still need to be present to regulate the game.

It’s fun, but unless you have something sorting you easily into games it’s kind of a cluster and you’re waiting for people to leave. You’d think you could just go join your own. But there are virtually no servers available unless you make them, and no one is going to make them because you need to buy them, and no one is going to buy them because custom game servers are practically dead. Grand total of 78 people in hotjoins right now and I bet all the rooms with 1 person in it is a lie, and probably most of them are afk in spectator mode. Of the list only 2 of them are on the 2v2 map and only one has enough members to play the game type.

A-net we didn’t need a ranked queue but we needed something.

this was an excellent idea, but poorly implemented. I was looking forward to this so much. total disappointment. it is fun, mad fun, when you can get a match going. But good luck trying to get one going.

as i said a 2:2 game mode with Q would be great. But we all should be aware that balance is on 5:5 taking mobility into account and there will be 2:2 combinations that are stronger in duels. I would add a few 2:2 maps with diffrent settings like one that has 2 control points that are not to far from each other, one small for pure deathmatch and maybe one with other objectives and then try an unranked Q. And maybe we can move to a ranked 2:2 later. Custom arenas might be a good first step.

It’ll be the death of 5v5. Everyone will queue in 2v2 because the queue times will be shorter, the game will be shorter, thus pips/rewards will come quicker. Also psychologically, isn’t it better to have 1 idiot on your team rather than 4? It would also create a very limited meta, with the 2 best classes always being picked.

2:2 should be a team not solo Q. But as said some class combinations will be better and thus create a tighter meta.

Its strange that ppl dont try Deathmatch (custom arenas) while they are w8ing in the que for Ranked .
They should increase the que times even more !

They must trying the new Hub Mist or they just alt tab and whine in the forums , while avoiding the PLAGUE THAT IS CALLED HOTJOIN AND THAT LEARNS BAD HABITS

We love 2 vs 2! Rotate it!

So from the comments i would say the ideal thing would be to put it in its own que as beta with solo and duo queues? As further testing for bugs etc would be easier to happen and therefore an smoother transition into its own mode that would thankfully be fully supported in the future. (more maps even a ranked que for it who knows)

Wolfric.9380:

2:2 should be a team not solo Q. But as said some class combinations will be better and thus create a tighter meta.

Tbh solo queing wouldnt be bad for it. Remember the goal is to kill the enemy team no objectives or stuff like that so if you are competent you can join and actually make a difference instead of having your team lose the game coz of other reasons outside of personal skill. Its easier to 1v2 rather than 1v5 xD

It needs a queue where it throws you into a hotjoin game. but make it so people can leave voluntarily and when another person queues throw them into the open game. Game only starts when 4 people are in.

and no spectators. Because to many people just afking in rooms, so it gets cluttered and for those that do want to play it’s always a who loads, and clicks the arrow first for who can play.

Daishi.6027:

It needs a queue where it throws you into a hotjoin game. but make it so people can leave voluntarily and when another person queues throw them into the open game. Game only starts when 4 people are in.

and no spectators. Because to many people just afking in rooms, so it gets cluttered and for those that do want to play it’s always a who loads, and clicks the arrow first for who can play.

Pausing an on going fight just to get a +1? That will set a game mode up for failure.

I for one will not wait for that 5m long +1, I don’t want another 2m wait for game to start if he comes, and the cycle can rinse and repeat. Just make it a normal 2v2 queue with it’s usual Round type system like other 2v2 game modes have. They leave, you win. That simple.

The game isn’t balanced for actually fighting people. There are 2 man comps out there who will never die to another 2 man comps, whatever classes and builds they run. I like the idea, but I think it’s prudent of them to not make it an actual game mode, because it will break as soon as people start treating it seriously.

I tried it yesterday, it was super fun !

Sure, some comps are really strong in 2v2. We had an aura ele that supported engi/mesmer/dh. That was almost impossible to beat.

Two things bothering me in this mode :

- Sometimes you wait a long time for the 4th person to come in…It would be great to have a ready up to allow 1v2 instead of waiting.
- I would make the area a bit bigger in width. Classes relying on aoe sustain/damages are really advantaged by the current arena.

YuiRS.8129:

The game isn’t balanced for actually fighting people. There are 2 man comps out there who will never die to another 2 man comps, whatever classes and builds they run. I like the idea, but I think it’s prudent of them to not make it an actual game mode, because it will break as soon as people start treating it seriously.

DH + Necro work really well to counter bunker + X comps too

On competitive 2v2 soloQ you’re going to have a plethora of different comps working based on player’s skill level because there’s a lot of players who simply are not mechanically skilled.

So just like build variances in spvp where build effectiveness drops off after reaching a certain division, duo comps will work up to a certain point too. It’s why Solo Queue 2v2 should be a thing and not premade 2v2 comps.

Daishi.6027:

It needs a queue where it throws you into a hotjoin game. but make it so people can leave voluntarily and when another person queues throw them into the open game. Game only starts when 4 people are in.

and no spectators. Because to many people just afking in rooms, so it gets cluttered and for those that do want to play it’s always a who loads, and clicks the arrow first for who can play.

Why not just treat it like normal ques for coquest have ppl que duo solo and just throw them against other ppl

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Can-the-pvp-scene-be-fixed-Yes-here-s-how/first#post6547159

You know, now that I think about it, I think Anet made the decision to not give 2v2 a queue right now due to suspicion of it being popular and not wanting it to distract from the current season and roll-out of Automated Tournaments.

Maybe during the off-season they could be persuaded into giving us an Unranked Queue checkbox for 2v2?

Shaogin.2679:

Maybe during the off-season they could be persuaded into giving us an Unranked Queue checkbox for 2v2?

I too would love a 2v2 queue during off season. Could just replace Rank queue.

I also would like to see 2v2 arenas replace rank queue during off season.

zealex.9410:

Daishi.6027:

It needs a queue where it throws you into a hotjoin game. but make it so people can leave voluntarily and when another person queues throw them into the open game. Game only starts when 4 people are in.

and no spectators. Because to many people just afking in rooms, so it gets cluttered and for those that do want to play it’s always a who loads, and clicks the arrow first for who can play.

Why not just treat it like normal ques for coquest have ppl que duo solo and just throw them against other ppl

Mostly because I’m pretty sure the queue times will be awful without another access and there seems to be intent to keep it unofficial. But that would be the ideal.

They always envisioned PvP rooms like TF2 steam servers you can hop in, and out of. I was fitting it with that intention considering the lack of official support.

Daishi.6027:

zealex.9410:

Daishi.6027:

It needs a queue where it throws you into a hotjoin game. but make it so people can leave voluntarily and when another person queues throw them into the open game. Game only starts when 4 people are in.

and no spectators. Because to many people just afking in rooms, so it gets cluttered and for those that do want to play it’s always a who loads, and clicks the arrow first for who can play.

Why not just treat it like normal ques for coquest have ppl que duo solo and just throw them against other ppl

Mostly because I’m pretty sure the queue times will be awful without another access and there seems to be intent to keep it unofficial. But that would be the ideal.

They always envisioned PvP rooms like TF2 steam servers you can hop in, and out of. I was fitting it with that intention considering the lack of official support.

im not talking about server im talkinga bout a fully fledged que much like the existing ones for conquest. I dont see teerrible que times for conquest and it reqires 10 ppl mean while 2v2 require 4.

Daishi.6027:

They always envisioned PvP rooms like TF2 steam servers you can hop in, and out of. I was fitting it with that intention considering the lack of official support.

Good ! Thanks God the Hotjoins are dead …..
PPl learned bad habits and they hide beHind numbers for the lack of skills …JUST LIKE WvWvWvW!

(why i cant harass or put some1 in the Wall of shame for some ppl that underperform in my WvWvWvW???
Why they must drag down my game mode ??)

How’s "the adventures of the necro and ele brothers? 2v2 has been stale forever due to this OP duo. its either that or engi and ele

I gotta admit, I like it. Small scale fighting was long overdue. The only thing I hate is that it’s elite specs or bust. Build diversity pretty much doesn’t even exist. “Meta” builds are even more strictly enforced than in conquest. On patch day, I went out with core power warr and got hammered and lost my first 10 games. I slotted in bersk and started winning some of them.