Guild Wars 2

So, I’ve been q’ing with a friend and I, we’re both Emerald now, (phew, finally got out), and now, we’re getting stuck on teams with Amber players? Every match we’re in so far, we’re the only emerald players on our team. The other team is usually mostly emerald and a couple amber.

So…..If this is supposed to be based off of pips, how is it even possible that we’re getting put with Amber players who are losing the games for us? We can’t carry that hard, but I wish I could.

Probably ambers that are really close to emerald, same thing happened to me when I was almost sapphire and got queued into games with ~7-8 sapphires in them.

Because it is + or – a certain number of pips from your current level. That means when you cross a new division, you’ll play people in a lower division. Likewise, when you were still in Amber you were likely starting to face some people in Emerald.

Bottom line is everyone in the match is close to the same number of pips as you. Thinking that you are carrying is very wrong and you may want to even think about adjusting your own style. What worked at the first levels may not be the best approach the more pips you gain.

you get players from +7 and -7 off your current pip score.

Well I’m playing the meta aura share ele right now. What needs changed?

You are getting teamed with people close to your mmr too so them being amber shouldn’t matter to much.

Engel.6029:

You are getting teamed with people close to your mmr too so them being amber shouldn’t matter to much.

I didn’t think MMR was even taken into consideration anymore.

Anomaly.7612:

Engel.6029:

You are getting teamed with people close to your mmr too so them being amber shouldn’t matter to much.

I didn’t think MMR was even taken into consideration anymore.

It is for making a team. That’s why there are all the one sided matches the better players are all being put on one team. .

Engel.6029:

Anomaly.7612:

Engel.6029:

You are getting teamed with people close to your mmr too so them being amber shouldn’t matter to much.

I didn’t think MMR was even taken into consideration anymore.

It is for making a team. That’s why there are all the one sided matches the better players are all being put on one team. .

So…..It doesn’t seem possible to move up in the ranks with that kind of algorithm. That system just sounds awful, and I don’t even want to play anymore at this point.

How exactly are we supposed to rank up with this system?

Anomaly.7612:

Engel.6029:

Anomaly.7612:

Engel.6029:

You are getting teamed with people close to your mmr too so them being amber shouldn’t matter to much.

I didn’t think MMR was even taken into consideration anymore.

It is for making a team. That’s why there are all the one sided matches the better players are all being put on one team. .

So…..It doesn’t seem possible to move up in the ranks with that kind of algorithm. That system just sounds awful, and I don’t even want to play anymore at this point.

How exactly are we supposed to rank up with this system?

1. get better
2. form a team with players that can win most 1v1 encounters, not die easily in team fights and can rotate well.

Anomaly.7612:

Engel.6029:

Anomaly.7612:

Engel.6029:

You are getting teamed with people close to your mmr too so them being amber shouldn’t matter to much.

I didn’t think MMR was even taken into consideration anymore.

It is for making a team. That’s why there are all the one sided matches the better players are all being put on one team. .

So…..It doesn’t seem possible to move up in the ranks with that kind of algorithm. That system just sounds awful, and I don’t even want to play anymore at this point.

How exactly are we supposed to rank up with this system?

It actually makes more sense than throwing any random guy within pip range into your team. This way (if it works) you shouldn’t be able to complain that your team is dragging you down.

And how you’re supposed to rank up? Easy. When people are starting to spread out into their “correct” divisions, it should be easy to progress if you’re good enough (provided there are enough equally good players to fill your team). I like it a hell of a lot more than the previous system.

Also, Engel wasn’t saying better players are put against worse players all the time. It just places good players together with good players and bad with bad, and the matchups are completely random (within a certain pip range). It lets good players go up the ranks quickly, which is a good thing.

I am quite shure this is done for fast matchmaking. If there are not enough teams to build within the divison it picks from below… An if it teams by MMR players with lower MMR will get the worse teams …. leading into a down spiral making it much harder to advance compared to lucky teams that got a win streak. I have the feeling the system is unbalaced in the way that if you are on top you have a huge advantage to stay on top and if you fall below average MMR you are in the sewers with low chances even if you are a good player, becaue one usually can´t carry a team alone.
The only escape looks to be building teams. So as solo player you might have bad days.

Wolfric.9380:

I am quite shure this is done for fast matchmaking. If there are not enough teams to build within the divison it picks from below… An if it teams by MMR players with lower MMR will get the worse teams ….

No, like someone said in the thread, it’s -7/+7 your current pip, it doesn’t really use division per se. But yeah, it probably works like you said if there literally aren’t enough players within that range, but I find that doubtful at this time.

… as I said in another thread: divisions DIVIDE players regarding their skill level (at least in a few days).

You are not supposed to move up divisions like on a reward track just by playing enough games.
If you want to move up, get better – and you will be paired with players similar to your skill level (defined by your MMR, not pip-number – which will be closer to each other in a few days regardless) and matched against other players similar to your pip level (+/- 7 pips) regardless of their MMR – given the fact there are even enough people queuing when you are.
If not, you get what is out there or have to wait 4 hours

this system is totally broken, matching bad player vs good player bring all the match to a nonsense game, build the teams, give 1 point to team with best mmr…and remove 1 point to other team.
at least is fast.

Thank you all, but I’m uninstalling. This game has just been unfun for me since HoT released. I really hope they make some needed changes because this game is just not what I want anymore.

Thank you again. 0/

Some say get better… This is not the problem. the prlbem is the inbalace in advancing.
People with the same skill advance extreamly diffrent decided by their starting luck …
I will even out in the long run but is just plain unfair how you get up.
For me? I rarely give up… What bothers me most is build and team diversity. I play because of this this and while i won´t quit due to WvW maps or pvp matchmaking i propably will due to lack of diversity.

Wolfric.9380:

Some say get better… This is not the problem. the prlbem is the inbalace in advancing.
People with the same skill advance extreamly diffrent decided by their starting luck …
I will even out in the long run but is just plain unfair how you get up.
For me? I rarely give up… What bothers me most is build and team diversity. I play because of this this and while i won´t quit due to WvW maps or pvp matchmaking i propably will due to lack of diversity.

Complaining about diversity and lack of balance is perfectly valid… but it’s not the fault of the matchmaking system.

Edit: I’m not saying you said it was, just saying that this thread has been all about the matchmaking system, so throwing in complaints about diversity seems off-topic.

I hope Anet reads these forums, because I know that I’m not the only person who’s stepping back from this game. It wasn’t easy for me. I’ve loved this game since beta, but the current state it’s in makes me hate it.

It’s like my partner/spouse I’ve been with for years suddenly turned into this different person that gives me anxiety and depression just to be around them. Thank you all for the support and help in the forums. It’s been appreciated.

Anomaly.7612:

I hope Anet reads these forums, because I know that I’m not the only person who’s stepping back from this game. It wasn’t easy for me. I’ve loved this game since beta, but the current state it’s in makes me hate it.

It’s like my partner/spouse I’ve been with for years suddenly turned into this different person that gives me anxiety and depression just to be around them. Thank you all for the support and help in the forums. It’s been appreciated.

Seriously, just give it a week and then try again. It’s to be expected that matchmaking is “terrible” (or at least very random) until people settle into their respective divisions. Uninstalling the entire game two days after a whole new matchmaking system is rolled out seems like an extreme reaction. Unless, of course, it’s just the last drop and you dislike HoT, the balance, etc.

Well, good luck to you, I guess.

Pakkazull.6894:

Anomaly.7612:

I hope Anet reads these forums, because I know that I’m not the only person who’s stepping back from this game. It wasn’t easy for me. I’ve loved this game since beta, but the current state it’s in makes me hate it.

It’s like my partner/spouse I’ve been with for years suddenly turned into this different person that gives me anxiety and depression just to be around them. Thank you all for the support and help in the forums. It’s been appreciated.

Seriously, just give it a week and then try again. It’s to be expected that matchmaking is “terrible” (or at least very random) until people settle into their respective divisions. Uninstalling the entire game two days after a whole new matchmaking system is rolled out seems like an extreme reaction. Unless, of course, it’s just the last drop and you dislike HoT, the balance, etc.

Well, good luck to you, I guess.

It was really the last drop for me. The balance, HoT maps, and overall feel of the game just isn’t to my liking anymore. Also, when they said, “we’re going to release minor balance changes,” I was hoping my thief and mesmer might have a fighting chance in ranked, but I can see they just don’t want us playing them in ranked at all with the way Necros, Engi’s and Revs are right now. Just couldn’t do it anymore.