Guild Wars 2

From the looks of it the only balance changes will be those already spoilt in the “balance preview” which was months ago.

What does this mean?

It means no nerf to decap engis – so solo q is still unplayable
It means no nerf to pistol whip
It means no nerf to thief sustain in general (withdraw)
It means no nerf to AH guardian (so another year of bunker guardian required)
It means no nerf warrior (8% healing signet change doesn’t count sorry – espicially with sigil buff for them)

I kind of knew this would be the case based on:

1, Previously their announced balance changes (even when months before a patch) = their only balance changes.
2, Devs already announced they were “keeping balance changes to a minimum”

I think the rage when this balance patch comes out will hit new heights on these forums. Personally I would be astonished if they don’t address things like AR and pistol whip

Yep. 6 more months of decap engis is worrying.

This game moves at a glacial pace.

One and a half years since release and we’re getting five new grandmaster traits per class and one new healing skill per class.

Very innovation. Much build diversity. Wow.

That post didn’t say anything they hadn’t already said. Useless, but a lot of nice words.

Also – I think it should be blatantly obvious to everyone by now that this game barely develops – glacial is quite accurate Flytrap.

Marcos.3690:

Yep. 6 more months of decap engis is worrying.

Decap engis just totally ruin solo q. They really do. It is just unplayable and I quit it because of them. Or I just run troll builds.

Rickster.8752:

From the looks of it the only balance changes will be those already spoilt in the “balance preview” which was months ago.

What does this mean?

It means no nerf to decap engis – so solo q is still unplayable
It means no nerf to pistol whip
It means no nerf to thief sustain in general (withdraw)
It means no nerf to AH guardian (so another year of bunker guardian required)
It means no nerf warrior (8% healing signet change doesn’t count sorry – espicially with sigil buff for them)

I kind of knew this would be the case based on:

1, Previously their announced balance changes (even when months before a patch) = their only balance changes.
2, Devs already announced they were “keeping balance changes to a minimum”

I think the rage when this balance patch comes out will hit new heights on these forums. Personally I would be astonished if they don’t address things like AR and pistol whip

Considering these are overview blogs are not only aimed at PvPers, but rather the community at large and that decap engi, AH guardian, PW thieves aren’t of great importance to them. I’d recommend that you should try and keep your panties out of a twist for a few more weeks, Rick.

Whit.2385:

That post didn’t say anything they hadn’t already said. Useless, but a lot of nice words.

Also – I think it should be blatantly obvious to everyone by now that this game barely develops – glacial is quite accurate Flytrap.

I know, I was very disappointed to see that the blog post originally called “The Art of Combat” turned out to be the rune and sigil changes that we’ve known about since January.

I was hoping that this Feature Patch would breathe some fresh life into this game, but I’m not so sure anymore. Hopefully one of the next blogs will prove me wrong.

Or you know, you could read the part where it says it’s “a preview of the balance changes”

infantrydiv.1620:

Rickster.8752:

From the looks of it the only balance changes will be those already spoilt in the “balance preview” which was months ago.

What does this mean?

It means no nerf to decap engis – so solo q is still unplayable
It means no nerf to pistol whip
It means no nerf to thief sustain in general (withdraw)
It means no nerf to AH guardian (so another year of bunker guardian required)
It means no nerf warrior (8% healing signet change doesn’t count sorry – espicially with sigil buff for them)

I kind of knew this would be the case based on:

1, Previously their announced balance changes (even when months before a patch) = their only balance changes.
2, Devs already announced they were “keeping balance changes to a minimum”

I think the rage when this balance patch comes out will hit new heights on these forums. Personally I would be astonished if they don’t address things like AR and pistol whip

Considering these are overview blogs are not only aimed at PvPers, but rather the community at large and that decap engi, AH guardian, PW thieves aren’t of great importance to them. I’d recommend that you should try and keep your panties out of a twist for a few more weeks, Rick.

Trust me. Those are the balance changes. We have 6 more months of decap engis and pistol whip thieves to look forward to.

I mean, dude, warrior is one of the things I don’t even care about right now. Warrior is balanced and fun to fight against compared to those two things.

What a complete and utter disaster this feature patch is going to be.

The SAME OLD PROBLEMS. I am VERY ANGRY NOW. SAME. OLD. PROBLEMS.

Anet: None of your new traits, sigils and runes matter for kitten. You can theory craft some new epic necro/ele/whatever build but it won’t matter for anything. You will have an awesome coherent build and then you go to play it and you just get pistol whipped to death over and over by an unhittable thief. What ruins this game isn’t what is not there. It is what is here. Addition by subtraction is something you people should be aware of. There is no point in this patch if we just get pistol whipped over and over still, or if we can’t even fight a 4v4 because of a decap engi on our close all game like a braindead idiot

This patch is going to be the worst ever produced. And I was excited about it. None of it matter anymore. New map? Who cares. I will just get pistol whipped 7 times in 10 seconds on that map too. So who gives a kitten.

On decap engis…just thinking about that new grand master turret trait which reflects projectiles. Would it be possible for a Asura Engineer to fit under that bubble? Because if they can removing a decap engineer from a point is going to even harder than it is now…

BeardRex.6739:

Or you know, you could read the part where it says it’s “a preview of the balance changes”

Dude, why would they spoil the stuff nobody cares about. If they do a preview it should say the are addressing the things people care about. They just haven’t addressed decap engi or pistol whip thief in the patch. That is the conclusion. You forget we have been around this pvp world for a long time and we know what is going to happen. This blog confirms it. Dev posts have confirmed it. “Minimal” balance changes.

gg anet.

Rickster.8752:

infantrydiv.1620:

Rickster.8752:

From the looks of it the only balance changes will be those already spoilt in the “balance preview” which was months ago.

What does this mean?

It means no nerf to decap engis – so solo q is still unplayable
It means no nerf to pistol whip
It means no nerf to thief sustain in general (withdraw)
It means no nerf to AH guardian (so another year of bunker guardian required)
It means no nerf warrior (8% healing signet change doesn’t count sorry – espicially with sigil buff for them)

I kind of knew this would be the case based on:

1, Previously their announced balance changes (even when months before a patch) = their only balance changes.
2, Devs already announced they were “keeping balance changes to a minimum”

I think the rage when this balance patch comes out will hit new heights on these forums. Personally I would be astonished if they don’t address things like AR and pistol whip

Considering these are overview blogs are not only aimed at PvPers, but rather the community at large and that decap engi, AH guardian, PW thieves aren’t of great importance to them. I’d recommend that you should try and keep your panties out of a twist for a few more weeks, Rick.

Trust me. Those are the balance changes. We have 6 more months of decap engis and pistol whip thieves to look forward to.

I mean, dude, warrior is one of the things I don’t even care about right now. Warrior is balanced and fun to fight against compared to those two things.

What a complete and utter disaster this feature patch is going to be.

The SAME OLD PROBLEMS. I am VERY ANGRY NOW. SAME. OLD. PROBLEMS.

Anet: None of your new traits, sigils and runes matter for kitten. You can theory craft some new epic necro/ele/whatever build but it won’t matter for anything. You will have an awesome coherent build and then you go to play it and you just get pistol whipped to death over and over by an unhittable thief. What ruins this game isn’t what is not there. It is what is here. Addition by subtraction is something you people should be aware of. There is no point in this patch if we just get pistol whipped over and over still, or if we can’t even fight a 4v4 because of a decap engi on our close all game like a braindead idiot

This patch is going to be the worst ever produced. And I was excited about it. None of it matter anymore. New map? Who cares. I will just get pistol whipped 7 times in 10 seconds on that map too. So who gives a kitten.

If the only new addition to build diversity we get are these grandmaster traits and the rune updates, I’m going to be extremely disappointed.

Looking back, that dev post about “#elepocalypse” is super hilarious now. I thought that we would be getting new utilities, new elites, and new weapon sets, but I guess my expectations got the best of me; granted, that’s what happens when you shove everything in a “Feature Patch” that is over four months away and say absolutely nothing about it until it’s on the verge of release.

Marcos.3690:

Yep. 6 more months of decap engis is worrying.

Eh, at this point I find it hard to care what’s running Wild anymore. Who cares who’s the Star of a game with such a slow development pace? All I know is stiff competition is coming, and soon, so if I was Anet, I’d pick up the pace.

Rickster.8752:

infantrydiv.1620:

Rickster.8752:

From the looks of it the only balance changes will be those already spoilt in the “balance preview” which was months ago.

What does this mean?

It means no nerf to decap engis – so solo q is still unplayable
It means no nerf to pistol whip
It means no nerf to thief sustain in general (withdraw)
It means no nerf to AH guardian (so another year of bunker guardian required)
It means no nerf warrior (8% healing signet change doesn’t count sorry – espicially with sigil buff for them)

I kind of knew this would be the case based on:

1, Previously their announced balance changes (even when months before a patch) = their only balance changes.
2, Devs already announced they were “keeping balance changes to a minimum”

I think the rage when this balance patch comes out will hit new heights on these forums. Personally I would be astonished if they don’t address things like AR and pistol whip

Considering these are overview blogs are not only aimed at PvPers, but rather the community at large and that decap engi, AH guardian, PW thieves aren’t of great importance to them. I’d recommend that you should try and keep your panties out of a twist for a few more weeks, Rick.

Trust me. Those are the balance changes. We have 6 more months of decap engis and pistol whip thieves to look forward to.

I mean, dude, warrior is one of the things I don’t even care about right now. Warrior is balanced and fun to fight against compared to those two things.

What a complete and utter disaster this feature patch is going to be.

The SAME OLD PROBLEMS. I am VERY ANGRY NOW. SAME. OLD. PROBLEMS.

Anet: None of your new traits, sigils and runes matter for kitten. You can theory craft some new epic necro/ele/whatever build but it won’t matter for anything. You will have an awesome coherent build and then you go to play it and you just get pistol whipped to death over and over by an unhittable thief. What ruins this game isn’t what is not there. It is what is here. Addition by subtraction is something you people should be aware of. There is no point in this patch if we just get pistol whipped over and over still, or if we can’t even fight a 4v4 because of a decap engi on our close all game like a braindead idiot

This patch is going to be the worst ever produced. And I was excited about it. None of it matter anymore. New map? Who cares. I will just get pistol whipped 7 times in 10 seconds on that map too. So who gives a kitten.

LOL, you made me laugh. I can understand your frustration because I feel it too on these particular builds/weapon sets. I was dissapointed as well from seeing the same exact information they told us previously on that Ready Up months ago. Literally the same. But, I’m still keeping hopes that those summaries of the changes aren’t even close to what’s being changed. I’m hoping it’s much much larger. Anyways, let’s wait for the stream here in an hour and a half.

Rickster.8752:

Anet: None of your new traits, sigils and runes matter for kitten. You can theory craft some new epic necro/ele/whatever build but it won’t matter for anything. You will have an awesome coherent build and then you go to play it and you just get pistol whipped to death over and over by an unhittable thief. What ruins this game isn’t what is not there. It is what is here. Addition by subtraction is something you people should be aware of. There is no point in this patch if we just get pistol whipped over and over still, or if we can’t even fight a 4v4 because of a decap engi on our close all game like a braindead idiot

This patch is going to be the worst ever produced. And I was excited about it. None of it matter anymore. New map? Who cares. I will just get pistol whipped 7 times in 10 seconds on that map too. So who gives a kitten.

You’re actually complaining about pistol whip? Of all things that are wrong with balance in this game, pistol whip? Any amount of validity I may have thought your opinions had has now been entirely lost.

Back on track, yeah, I’m also feeling very underwhelmed from today’s blog posts. They gave us nothing new, just rephrased things we’ve known for a month. I understand what they showed us is a preview, but the last time we got a balance preview it ended up being 80% of the entire balance patch.

I agree with Anet that balance needs to be done in iteration, but they seemed to have missed the memo that iteration only works when done in consistent short intervals. Their balance philosophy would work if they were released every month, not every 4 months.

Loki.8793:

Rickster.8752:

Anet: None of your new traits, sigils and runes matter for kitten. You can theory craft some new epic necro/ele/whatever build but it won’t matter for anything. You will have an awesome coherent build and then you go to play it and you just get pistol whipped to death over and over by an unhittable thief. What ruins this game isn’t what is not there. It is what is here. Addition by subtraction is something you people should be aware of. There is no point in this patch if we just get pistol whipped over and over still, or if we can’t even fight a 4v4 because of a decap engi on our close all game like a braindead idiot

This patch is going to be the worst ever produced. And I was excited about it. None of it matter anymore. New map? Who cares. I will just get pistol whipped 7 times in 10 seconds on that map too. So who gives a kitten.

You’re actually complaining about pistol whip? Of all things that are wrong with balance in this game, pistol whip? Any amount of validity I may have thought your opinions had has now been entirely lost.

Where have you been? Complaining about an attack you can literally walk away from the tail end of has been in vogue for at least a month.

Loki.8793:

You’re actually complaining about pistol whip? Of all things that are wrong with balance in this game, pistol whip? Any amount of validity I may have thought your opinions had has now been entirely lost.

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you must not play much pvp as pistol whip thieves are everywhere.

Also. to add to OP. I’m disappointed as well. same old Anet BS. Take 6 months to get balance patch out and still fail to address any of the problems.

evilapprentice.6379:

Eh, at this point I find it hard to care what’s running Wild anymore. Who cares who’s the Star of a game with such a slow development pace? All I know is stiff competition is coming, and soon, so if I was Anet, I’d pick up the pace.

i see what you did there.

PeepMeDown.5017:

Loki.8793:

You’re actually complaining about pistol whip? Of all things that are wrong with balance in this game, pistol whip? Any amount of validity I may have thought your opinions had has now been entirely lost.

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you must not play much pvp as pistol whip thieves are everywhere.

You must not play PvP much as Pistol whip thieves are the easiest type of thieves to kill. Pistol whip was useless until recently. Now it got fixed. There are many more valid and critical things to complain about balance in this game than pistol whip.

I’m usually the first one to jump at A-net’s thought but this time, even I feel the need to back them up…

There will be 3 RU’s, in the first they will talk about the new Grand Master traits, that does not mean that there will be no more balance changes besides that. There are still 2 more RU’s after this one which will give us more info on the patch including the new spvp map that we know will not be conquest mode.

I’d suggest you sit back and relax, watch all 3 RU’s and then play the game after the patch hits, at that point, you can jump on A-net’s neck if you feel like it, until then lvl a new toon or just take a brake.

Loki.8793:

PeepMeDown.5017:

Loki.8793:

You’re actually complaining about pistol whip? Of all things that are wrong with balance in this game, pistol whip? Any amount of validity I may have thought your opinions had has now been entirely lost.

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you must not play much pvp as pistol whip thieves are everywhere.

You must not play PvP much as Pistol whip thieves are the easiest type of thieves to kill. Pistol whip was useless until recently. Now it got fixed. There are many more valid and critical things to complain about balance in this game than pistol whip.

While you are right PW are easier to kill than the previous S/D meta build, the damage and cc they do is greatly increased. They are still very prevalent in high ranked team queue games and the build just crushes necros, rangers, ele and mesmer. I’d like to know what u think is a more valid and critical thing tocomplain about is. I think the build that cuts 2 classes completely out of the meta is something to complain about.
Altho i do hate decap engies twice as much.

It’s gonna be huge!!!!
Hype!!!!!

It’s so sad, you aren’t even able to laugh anymore about it.

Perhaps they have some changes in traits in the work (removing automated response, decreasing the power of sleight of hand builds or fewer quickness procs) that will bring these builds a little bit more in-line. I do 100% agree that if you just removed thieves for a week, you would see WAY more build diversity instantly. But they will probably just buff thieves again…b/c bad thief players whine about being “the most nerfed class” (that is still unreasonably OP when played right).

I mostly agree with OP, but their hint that they are removing the Death magic minors wasn’t in the previously previewed trait changes. So, there may yet be one surprises.

I’m extremely disappointed.

@OP you know absolutely Nothing about the actual patch notes so before QQ why not wait until april 15th ? Im tired of the QQ from baddies who cant play , just roll a decap engi for now n play

Ty , move along folks nothing to see here

Rickster.8752:

From the looks of it the only balance changes will be…

I stopped reading there.

Seriously people, this is a preview, not a comprehensive list of all changes.

What’s so shocking about ANet scrapping the failed PvP model we’ve had since release.

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that they’re making a “pivot” in favor of WvW/PvE as that makes the most business sense.

Dahkeus.8243:

Rickster.8752:

From the looks of it the only balance changes will be…

I stopped reading there.

Seriously people, this is a preview, not a comprehensive list of all changes.

people like you will be in for a nasty suprise

Dahkeus.8243:

Rickster.8752:

From the looks of it the only balance changes will be…

I stopped reading there.

Seriously people, this is a preview, not a comprehensive list of all changes.

But a lot of this information is already known.
It is not a preview, it is more like some kind of reanouncement.
So why don’t they tell us new stuff?
They should expect these reaction, when the only thing they tell us is, what we already know.
Leaving us questioning: Why don’t they tell us anything new?
If there actually were some good + new balance changes, why wouldn’t they tell us?
Do they prefer a dozen flame threads in the forums over players being happy about the changes they made?

As I keep saying, we need to see balance for these specs:
hambow, decap engi, spirit ranger, mm necro, bunker guardian, s/p thief

PeepMeDown.5017:

While you are right PW are easier to kill than the previous S/D meta build, the damage and cc they do is greatly increased. They are still very prevalent in high ranked team queue games and the build just crushes necros, rangers, ele and mesmer. I’d like to know what u think is a more valid and critical thing tocomplain about is. I think the build that cuts 2 classes completely out of the meta is something to complain about.
Altho i do hate decap engies twice as much.

How about conditions, and how horribly designed and implemented they are? How the only way to reliably survive against a conditions is to distinctly build for them, whereas conversely the only thing you need to do to survive raw damage is to avoid it with skillful play, no matter how you’re built.

How about how nearly all condition specs rely on passives and ranged auto attacks to do their damage, meaning you can’t reliably avoid them with skillful play.

How about why there are so many passives in an action/reaction orientated game and how stupidly effective and powerful they are? How about why there are so many pets and AI in PvP?

How about nearly all condition-oriented specs also being primarily defensive stat-wise? How about Clensing ire, and how it works with long bow? How it only takes 20 trait points to have the best reliable condition removal in the game and have one of the most survivable specs with healing signet and longbow, defending against both condition and raw damage, and then can put all the other traits and stats into offensive lines and still be one of the hardest things to kill in the game.

How about the complete and utter lack of build diversity in the game?

Pistol whip does counter some builds, but it mostly counters the stupid passive/pettingzoo builds that are so prominent in the game right now. I don’t think that’s such a bad thing, to be honest. Unskillful builds that prioritize AI and passives like that need to be played less, and having a build that can more-easily deal with them is a good thing in my eyes.

Loki.8793:

PeepMeDown.5017:

While you are right PW are easier to kill than the previous S/D meta build, the damage and cc they do is greatly increased. They are still very prevalent in high ranked team queue games and the build just crushes necros, rangers, ele and mesmer. I’d like to know what u think is a more valid and critical thing tocomplain about is. I think the build that cuts 2 classes completely out of the meta is something to complain about.
Altho i do hate decap engies twice as much.

How about conditions, and how horribly designed and implemented they are? How the only way to reliably survive against a conditions is to distinctly build for them, whereas conversely the only thing you need to do to survive raw damage is to avoid it with skillful play, no matter how you’re built.

How about how nearly all condition specs rely on passives and ranged auto attacks to do their damage, meaning you can’t reliably avoid them with skillful play.

How about why there are so many passives in an action/reaction orientated game and how stupidly effective and powerful they are? How about why there are so many pets and AI in PvP?

How about nearly all condition-oriented specs also being primarily defensive stat-wise? How about Clensing ire, and how it works with long bow? How it only takes 20 trait points to have the best reliable condition removal in the game and have one of the most survivable specs with healing signet and longbow, defending against both condition and raw damage, and then can put all the other traits and stats into offensive lines and still be one of the hardest things to kill in the game.

How about the complete and utter lack of build diversity in the game?

Pistol whip does counter some builds, but it mostly counters the stupid passive/pettingzoo builds that are so prominent in the game right now. I don’t think that’s such a bad thing, to be honest. Unskillful builds that prioritize AI and passives like that need to be played less, and having a build that can more-easily deal with them is a good thing in my eyes.

Pistolwhip gameplay makes Warrior gameplay look complicated.

infantrydiv.1620:

Loki.8793:

PeepMeDown.5017:

While you are right PW are easier to kill than the previous S/D meta build, the damage and cc they do is greatly increased. They are still very prevalent in high ranked team queue games and the build just crushes necros, rangers, ele and mesmer. I’d like to know what u think is a more valid and critical thing tocomplain about is. I think the build that cuts 2 classes completely out of the meta is something to complain about.
Altho i do hate decap engies twice as much.

How about conditions, and how horribly designed and implemented they are? How the only way to reliably survive against a conditions is to distinctly build for them, whereas conversely the only thing you need to do to survive raw damage is to avoid it with skillful play, no matter how you’re built.

How about how nearly all condition specs rely on passives and ranged auto attacks to do their damage, meaning you can’t reliably avoid them with skillful play.

How about why there are so many passives in an action/reaction orientated game and how stupidly effective and powerful they are? How about why there are so many pets and AI in PvP?

How about nearly all condition-oriented specs also being primarily defensive stat-wise? How about Clensing ire, and how it works with long bow? How it only takes 20 trait points to have the best reliable condition removal in the game and have one of the most survivable specs with healing signet and longbow, defending against both condition and raw damage, and then can put all the other traits and stats into offensive lines and still be one of the hardest things to kill in the game.

How about the complete and utter lack of build diversity in the game?

Pistol whip does counter some builds, but it mostly counters the stupid passive/pettingzoo builds that are so prominent in the game right now. I don’t think that’s such a bad thing, to be honest. Unskillful builds that prioritize AI and passives like that need to be played less, and having a build that can more-easily deal with them is a good thing in my eyes.

Pistolwhip gameplay makes Warrior gameplay look complicated.

And dagger/pistol thieves don’t? Dagger/dagger? Pistol/dagger? Sword/dagger? That’s just how the thief is: the complication isn’t in the skill rotation or usage, it’s in the positioning, timing, and twitch-reaction to survive the 2 hits it takes to kill them.

For a warrior, the skill is in the skill rotation. The heavy armor, healing signet, and cleansing ire gives the warrior one of the most inherently defensive specs in the game. The problem isn’t that the warrior can have these things, the problem is that the warrior can achieve this with only 20 trait points.

@Loki.8793
How about conditions, and how horribly designed and implemented they are?

Complained about constantly for the first year, before people who seriously expected changes this large left.

How about how nearly all condition specs rely on passives and ranged auto attacks to do their damage, meaning you can’t reliably avoid them with skillful play.

Complained about constantly for the first year, before people who seriously expected changes this large left.

How about why there are so many passives in an action/reaction orientated game and how stupidly effective and powerful they are? How about why there are so many pets and AI in PvP?

Complained about constantly.

How about nearly all condition-oriented specs also being primarily defensive stat-wise?

Complained about constantly for the first year, before people who seriously expected changes this large left.
A bit ago people started tossing around the idea of celestial-amulet-only custom arenas. Anet utterly ignored it.

How about the complete and utter lack of build diversity in the game?

This doesn’t matter.
Only how well the specs are made matters.
There could be 4 specs with frivilous customization, but if they were well made with a halfway decent game mode… it’d make a solid game.

Pistol whip does counter some builds, but it mostly counters the stupid passive/pettingzoo builds that are so prominent in the game right now.

It enforces build wars in a game that can’t play build wars.
There is no teamwork or depth or really much of anything to stop a fight against a counter from being a blowout. GW2 is a solo skirmishy game, casual gameplay isn’t made for counter specs AT ALL, and so people will QQ about them all day on these forums.

Why do people keep wishing for nerfs on classes they have a hard time beating while asking for buffs to their class. Yes I agree with thieves being a strong pick nowadays, but I disagree with the whole “Oh gawd nerf pistol whip because it kill me.” It’s a strong skill it is, but it doesn’t need a nerf. Dodging is not as hard as it seems, it just getting used to fight thieves. If you’re getting attacked by a thief and he immobalizes you, you can bet that he’s going to whip you. Condition removal, stunbreakers or a dodge work against it. It costs initiative. If it fails it’s a waste of burst.

Warriors need a nerf on their sustain, which they are getting on through the 8% nerf on healing signet which is slightly low, I think at least a 15% would be justified.

Nerf bunker guardians and what do you have? Guardians were meant to be tanky, they’re the closest thing you have to a tank in this game (Along with warriors). All their skills shout that. You can build other builds of course but they won’t be as reliable as the others.

Loki.8793:

infantrydiv.1620:

Loki.8793:

PeepMeDown.5017:

While you are right PW are easier to kill than the previous S/D meta build, the damage and cc they do is greatly increased. They are still very prevalent in high ranked team queue games and the build just crushes necros, rangers, ele and mesmer. I’d like to know what u think is a more valid and critical thing tocomplain about is. I think the build that cuts 2 classes completely out of the meta is something to complain about.
Altho i do hate decap engies twice as much.

How about conditions, and how horribly designed and implemented they are? How the only way to reliably survive against a conditions is to distinctly build for them, whereas conversely the only thing you need to do to survive raw damage is to avoid it with skillful play, no matter how you’re built.

How about how nearly all condition specs rely on passives and ranged auto attacks to do their damage, meaning you can’t reliably avoid them with skillful play.

How about why there are so many passives in an action/reaction orientated game and how stupidly effective and powerful they are? How about why there are so many pets and AI in PvP?

How about nearly all condition-oriented specs also being primarily defensive stat-wise? How about Clensing ire, and how it works with long bow? How it only takes 20 trait points to have the best reliable condition removal in the game and have one of the most survivable specs with healing signet and longbow, defending against both condition and raw damage, and then can put all the other traits and stats into offensive lines and still be one of the hardest things to kill in the game.

How about the complete and utter lack of build diversity in the game?

Pistol whip does counter some builds, but it mostly counters the stupid passive/pettingzoo builds that are so prominent in the game right now. I don’t think that’s such a bad thing, to be honest. Unskillful builds that prioritize AI and passives like that need to be played less, and having a build that can more-easily deal with them is a good thing in my eyes.

Pistolwhip gameplay makes Warrior gameplay look complicated.

And dagger/pistol thieves don’t? Dagger/dagger? Pistol/dagger? Sword/dagger? That’s just how the thief is: the complication isn’t in the skill rotation or usage, it’s in the positioning, timing, and twitch-reaction to survive the 2 hits it takes to kill them.

For a warrior, the skill is in the skill rotation. The heavy armor, healing signet, and cleansing ire gives the warrior one of the most inherently defensive specs in the game. The problem isn’t that the warrior can have these things, the problem is that the warrior can achieve this with only 20 trait points.

I understand that other things like cleansing ire and all the other meta builds have issues but why does that make S/P ok? Lol. S/P is easier than hambow to play. It is the most ruthless and noob friendly weapon set to play. You’re basically saying that if there were 5 people that robbed a bank that the police should just arrest one of them and the others are fine. S/P is a huge issue in the current meta and if you fail to see it I really don’t know what to tell you.

Why bother balancing if you plan on adding 40 new traits, new runes and sigils and whatever else they have in store?

What bothers me the most is that we are unable to use different rune sets in spvp after the patch. There are some runes who give good boni in the 5/6 range but the 6th bonus is not good all the time, like the scholar runes. One hit and your 6/6 bonus is gone. Its like you would just use only 5 and not 6 runes on set. We all now how easy it is to drop as a glasscanon under 90% hp. Your first combo profits from the 10% and after that you get one bleed and its gone.
I hope we are still able to mix runes. The rune balance itself and how the runes will look is on another side and we will see.

Despite the devs cheerleading about these being fake, the fake patch notes are eerily accurate to the most recent official blog….

http://pastebin.com/dmACCzwx