Guild Wars 2

Explain to me why you think x is OP and I’ll tell you why it’s not.

Are you really asking for a QQ storm?

It’s not so much things are op, it’s that there’s a ton of bugs. Lots of skills/traits not working like how they should and other things that were just completely over looked. Once Anet starts fixing the classes things should improve a little bit.

Yeah the bugs are hurting Necro the most right now. All I’m hearing on these forums though is “100 blades is OP, nerf thieves, mesmer clones are OP” etc… it’s all an L2P issue.

Classes like Warrior/Mesmer/Thief are just very easy to be efficient with. People confuse that with being OP, however once bug fixes come out other classes should come into line.

hmm.. well from what I can tell people are complaining about classes that the majority of people havn’t bothered to figure out how to counter or who have an advantage once they go into a downed state.
Also the most complained about classes tend to be easier to play at a lower skill lvl. At the higher end they all tend to equalize to an extent in potency.

Try out some different classes and find out for yourself. Noone is going to admit to being overpowered on a forum anyway, so go try out some of the weakest classes versus the strongest. You’ll notice but probably still deny it on forums.

@Raytek …

Pls tell me how is a l2p issue when some professions get:

1) mesmer: safely ressed while stealthed, MoA form when losing, illusions which attack without line of sight, illusions which teleport behind walls and doors or on the top of the roof, an elite which allow them to travel from one cap point to the other in 1/10 of the time etc etc etc…

2) Thief: reset the fight every freaking time…up to 6 times, can self-rally from stealth, can attack from stealth for quite few seconds before reappearing and go stealth again, one of the most OP downed skills and the over the top elites, compare dagger storm to tornado, the latter mover much slower, got far less dmg , got no projectile defense, or cripple against who try to run away….and on top of that got double the CD….

More than a “l2p” issue this is a FOTM kid plea to avoid seeing his broken profession being fixed

Ickara.8725:

hmm.. well from what I can tell people are complaining about classes that the majority of people havn’t bothered to figure out how to counter or who have an advantage once they go into a downed state.
Also the most complained about classes tend to be easier to play at a lower skill lvl. At the higher end they all tend to equalize to an extent in potency.

Why don’t you post a guide about the other professions and how to counter mesmer at high level play…yeah thought so…take off the little foil hat and embrace reality

my impression is that theres a huge amount of L2P issues happening right BUT there are also legitimate balance problems and figuring out which is which is not easy and causing alot of confusion and frustration.

for example: the Quickness buff probably needs rebalancing. My opinion is that it interacts much too strongly with a narrow subset of skills (channeled burst damage attacks like Hundred Blades and Pistol Whip). This is probably a game balance issue that needs a revision of how Quickness works.

counter-example: Thief Stealth is actually very well balanced and people having trouble playing against it are having L2P issues.

l2p issue? Maybe you should actually play the game?

Feel free to find the video on this forum featuring a thief and it’s complete OP BS. The guy resets all his traits and only selects the crit category. Yes, only the crit category. Also, he only has 3 skills on his bar and doesn’t even touch the utility skills.

L2P issue….. w/e.

Found it for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJPL3_uEyGM

watched the video:
17k hp, means some kind of balanced and not cannon glass spec. ghe doesnt use utility because they are signet, better leave them unused so they are more usefull.
in the first 3 mins he fight only 2v1 in his favor. everyone can be good doing that.
he escape every fight he can’t win easily. seemes legit
opponents are really dumb and ofc first map = 90% pugs(80%first timers, noob, 8v8; 20% nice players); 10% premades.

1. wow he attached a warrior with 40% hp under vengeance. cool.

1. mesmer 5%hp. still cool.

1. huuu a warrior full hp goes next to him and didnt care about him, should be a nice opponent team ofc. why didn’t he attack warrior? hmm interesting.

1. again spammed hs against a warrior who didnt care about him, really, what kind of tournament he found that time!!!! wow 50% hp and he finished initiative. cool.

1. SBROFL what kind of noob necro he beated. skill used: fear and maybe healing or a well? really

1. he attacked enemy downed. ok there are points. count as kill btw?

ok i stopped there because i have to go.
i love the video, i love the sarcasm he used, that’s all. no skill needed to do those things.
anet if you want to nerf thieves do it. really. do it i agree.

- a thief -

The game is not well balanced, which is to be expected with so many different more or less viable builds for all professions and so early after release.

While some professions are more obvious than others because of how easy they are to play, resulting in a lot of players doing very well with one prof when they wouldnt with another (thief comes to mind) it’s just really a mess in general.

people like to claim that if the nerf cries are directed at a lot of classes simultaneously it must be balanced. That’s not true at all though, it just means balance is screwed up way beyond just one class overshadowing all others.
to be fair, almost all MMOs with a class based design were horribly balanced in pvp, so gw2 is not an exception or stands out particularly badly.

but if you feel better about yourself with it, please continue to put the blame on the feelings of entitlement of the general playerbase.

the only games that will ever truly be balanced are shooters and RTS where every player is exactly the same (except unlockables ofc). A sad but definite truth.

L2P issue….. w/e.
Found it for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJPL3_uEyGM

HILARIOUS. thanks for posting, mate.

Can we please nerf mesmers for 2 reasons.
1. SO all the bad “i heard this class is OP” people stop playing them.
2. When I completely own people as one I can lol at them

Some classes are just a lot more complete than others. I wish they would have delayed launch for another couple months so these issues wouldn’t be as annoying.

Assassin’s Signet

And not so much OP as promoting frustrating gimmicky gameplay.