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Posted by: ghaleon.2861

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Solo queue is a nightmare, 99.9% of all my matches are 4v5, afkers, rage quitters. I’m done, good bye community I have lost all hope. And there’s no point of making a team, because team arenas is dead……Heart of the mist is a ghost town. Going back to LoL until pvp in this game gets good.

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Posted by: Aereniel.7356

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I feel you, ragequitting is a valid life choice given the circumstances. Let’s hope ANet gets the message and gives us a feature-complete solo queue & tournament system. All I can say is you’re not alone, a lot of players are in the same boat.

Of course, feature parity will only carry so far without proper incentives, but that’s another thread.

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Posted by: garethh.3518

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Solo queue is a nightmare, 99.9% of all my matches are 4v5, afkers, rage quitters. I’m done, good bye community I have lost all hope. And there’s no point of making a team, because team arenas is dead……Heart of the mist is a ghost town. Going back to LoL until pvp in this game gets good.

I did the same 3~ months ago.
Never been happier.

I called it, that the devs were gonna drive off the rest of their players by the end of the year. If they just did next to nothing, if they just let the game stagnate but filled the players with promises and occasional balance changes… it would have a population by then…

They had to pull some crazy obviously destructive patch… like splitting solo-team que so you literally can’t play the game with friends… to actually make my prediction come true…
Lo and behold.
kittening devs.

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Posted by: FirstBlood.7359

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Solo queue is a nightmare, 99.9% of all my matches are 4v5, afkers, rage quitters. […] Going back to LoL until pvp in this game gets good.

Haven’t you been one of those guys complaining about Elo Hell?

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Posted by: Rufy.6093

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Solo queue is a nightmare, 99.9% of all my matches are 4v5, afkers, rage quitters. I’m done, good bye community I have lost all hope. And there’s no point of making a team, because team arenas is dead……Heart of the mist is a ghost town. Going back to LoL until pvp in this game gets good.

99.9% ? So you played like 1 match..

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Posted by: Nix.3152

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i dont think soloque is a problem. the problem is arenanet have no idea how to balance the game. i played many games but i never rage so much in my gaming history how i rage in gw2 lately. with their “balancing” they force people to quit the game or play garbage specs in order to win. petting zoos, necros, warriors, s/d thiefs. they made all these faceroll specs. every noob can play them. it doesnot matter if you are good player or not just play this and you will win. and everyone have to wait for a month when they will remove 1 stack of bleeding from necro. thats a joke not balancing. forums are full of raging people but they dont care.

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Posted by: Demonts.4593

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i dont think soloque is a problem. the problem is arenanet have no idea how to balance the game. i played many games but i never rage so much in my gaming history how i rage in gw2 lately. with their “balancing” they force people to quit the game or play garbage specs in order to win. petting zoos, necros, warriors, s/d thiefs. they made all these faceroll specs. every noob can play them. it doesnot matter if you are good player or not just play this and you will win. and everyone have to wait for a month when they will remove 1 stack of bleeding from necro. thats a joke not balancing. forum are full of raging people but they dont care. they beter remove 1 stack of bleeding from necro – thats a joke not balancing.

I completely agree with you. I play thief and i am basically forced to play s/d because direct damage burst builds just dont work in this game. I really wanna play d/p burst like i used to but the burst basically just tickles most builds now. The meta builds require NO SKILL.

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Posted by: Abazigal.3679

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I do not mind balance or boring builds, but the combinaison of 4v5 and leaderboard system tend to be a problem in my opinion..

I’m fluctuating between r70 and 200 lately, although i’m winning much more than i’m losing. A big part of my loses is however due to 4v5 matchs( usually one guy is afk all the match), and all these matchs lead to at least -25 ranks ( and i’m on top100, so i believe it could be -200 on lower ratings…)..
Yesterday i did 2 matchs, one on solo queue and one in team arenas, and both were 4v5…

The problem is that, if some players can’t afford waiting a timer that is at worse 10mn, nothing can really be done..

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Posted by: DiBiddilyBop.1470

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Rankings in solo queue are a joke. Granted, I haven’t played a lot in solo queue, but I’ll anecdotal example from last night…

Started the night ranked 50% with a record of 12-15. Played three matches. Lost all three, one was a 4v5. Every match I was the top scorer on my team, one game I was the top scorer overall and the other two matches my score fell betwen the middle and top of the winning team’s scores, always had a positive k/d ratio and was top point capper every match. Ended the night 12-18 ranked 33%.

It seems like solo queue ranking is calculated exactly the same way team rankings are, which is almost entirely dependent on whether or not your team won. So if the RNG for who you get teamed with ends poorly for you (as it did three times in a row for me last night), you’re losing ranks regardless of how well you play. The system is so completely broken, it’s not even worth having.

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Posted by: NevirSayDie.6235

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Started the night ranked 50% with a record of 12-15. Played three matches. Lost all three, one was a 4v5. Every match I was the top scorer on my team, one game I was the top scorer overall and the other two matches my score fell betwen the middle and top of the winning team’s scores, always had a positive k/d ratio and was top point capper every match. Ended the night 12-18 ranked 33%.

I’m not saying that the leaderboard is perfect, but you need to know that the scoreboard is not an indication of how much you’re helping your team. Even things like being the top point capper are not a good indication. It’s a complicated game mode, and there’s a huge emphasis on winning group fights, pulling the enemy out of position, and controlling space. Things like winning a long 2v1 will get you points, but will lead to losing the match as the rest of your team is overwhelmed.

This isn’t a “l2p” post, I’m just cautioning you against trusting the scoreboard. As is the case in most games, numbers don’t accurately gauge your effectiveness.

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Posted by: Divinity.8041

Divinity.8041

Solo queue is a nightmare, 99.9% of all my matches are 4v5, afkers, rage quitters. I’m done, good bye community I have lost all hope. And there’s no point of making a team, because team arenas is dead……Heart of the mist is a ghost town. Going back to LoL until pvp in this game gets good.

everything about this game is broken, i can’t even queue with one of my friends in solo queue, or even hotjoin. It is kitten backwards.

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Posted by: NevirSayDie.6235

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everything about this game is broken, i can’t even queue with one of my friends in solo queue, or even hotjoin. It is kitten backwards.

You can queue with any number in team queue. In hotjoin, it’s very easy to join together. It’s very easy to be on the same team, although I’d recommend team queues for that. Why would you want to group up with a team of experienced players to crush noob puggers?

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Posted by: DiBiddilyBop.1470

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I’m not saying that the leaderboard is perfect, but you need to know that the scoreboard is not an indication of how much you’re helping your team. Even things like being the top point capper are not a good indication. It’s a complicated game mode, and there’s a huge emphasis on winning group fights, pulling the enemy out of position, and controlling space. Things like winning a long 2v1 will get you points, but will lead to losing the match as the rest of your team is overwhelmed.

This isn’t a “l2p” post, I’m just cautioning you against trusting the scoreboard. As is the case in most games, numbers don’t accurately gauge your effectiveness.

No no, I totally understand that. When I’m queueing up in team or solo, I always play the part of a roamer and forward point capper. I totally understand that score /= skill and I don’t play to boost my score. A perfect example yesterday was one match in particular, I would go to cap the forward point where it was uncontested and one of my teammates repeatedly came in and stood on the point for the last 50% of the cap while it was uncontested and there was a fight going on at another point where he could have been helpful. That’s just score boosting and isn’t helping the team AT ALL, and I try not to ever be that guy.

What I’m saying is that the fact that I have a positive k/d ratio, I lead in point caps and lead in score, overall I think it’s fair to say I’m doing something right. I’m doing everything I can to help my team, but at the end of the night I’m down 17% in the leaderboard rankings. That just says to me that the system is incredibly flawed.

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Posted by: NevirSayDie.6235

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What I’m saying is that the fact that I have a positive k/d ratio, I lead in point caps and lead in score, overall I think it’s fair to say I’m doing something right. I’m doing everything I can to help my team, but at the end of the night I’m down 17% in the leaderboard rankings. That just says to me that the system is incredibly flawed.

Fair enough. If you are playing above the level of those around your matchmaking level, don’t worry, it will even out. 3 games is a very small test sample—sure, you got bad teammates a few times, but if you’re consistently playing better than the people around you, you will go up given time.

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Posted by: DiBiddilyBop.1470

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Fair enough. If you are playing above the level of those around your matchmaking level, don’t worry, it will even out. 3 games is a very small test sample—sure, you got bad teammates a few times, but if you’re consistently playing better than the people around you, you will go up given time.

This is true, I’m just afraid that I’m going to get frustrated long before the sample size grows to the point that it evens out. If things continue going how they are, there’s a good chance I’ll get to 40ish total solo queue matches and then just resign myself to only playing team matches from then on.

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Posted by: Belldandy.7284

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I just wanted to throw my keyboard and my mouse because of this ridiculous solo queuing match. My rank just got drop a lot because of the unbalanced ranking. It’s getting worse and worse every time I’m doing solo q.

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Posted by: DiBiddilyBop.1470

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We should start a club… who can have the largest gap between their tPvP rank and their solo queue rank.

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Posted by: Nezia.8154

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gaaaah welcome to the club. When I first started solo queue I lost more than won and started at 30% ranking despite how much I am trying to help my team… Then got lucky along the way reached top 800. then lost again and again, went back down to 40%, but I still kept on playing it stabilized to 77%. And lately I’ve been losing 4v5 5 times in a row!!! Ridiculous. I’m down to 50% now. I’m really hating solo queue so much.

If you close your mind to new information, you are not being a productive member of the society.
You are the useless log of flesh we have to drag behind us as we move forward.

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

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play hot join, its fun!

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Posted by: ghaleon.2861

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play hot join, its fun!

You’re joking, right?

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Posted by: Baldric.6781

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I’m at 0% . 15 chars

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Posted by: Xom.9264

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I think what we are seeing here is a reality check for some Tpvp folks that used to farm pugs and for the people that thought not having a team was holding them back.

When one of the strong GvG players on my friendslist seen I was rated he decided to get top 100 went from 0% to top 70 (in 100 range now) in less then a week. Moral of the story, you are all not nearly as good as you think I and many others have had loses from 4v5 its happens but law of averages says you will climb if you have the skill.

There are alot of things wrong with the PvP side of the game namely conquest mode and the leader boards have people still top 100 that have not played a single game in over a month however if you are good you can climb to top 100-200.

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Posted by: ghaleon.2861

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I think what we are seeing here is a reality check for some Tpvp folks that used to farm pugs and for the people that thought not having a team was holding them back.

When one of the strong GvG players on my friendslist seen I was rated he decided to get top 100 went from 0% to top 70 (in 100 range now) in less then a week. Moral of the story, you are all not nearly as good as you think I and many others have had loses from 4v5 its happens but law of averages says you will climb if you have the skill.

There are alot of things wrong with the PvP side of the game namely conquest mode and the leader boards have people still top 100 that have not played a single game in over a month however if you are good you can climb to top 100-200.

Hmmmmm………. we are talking about rage quitters 4v5, 3v5….. How can people climb the LB when in most matches you are outnumbered. And being on the LB means nothing, specially solo queue LB. When The first LB came out I was on the top 100, and the PvP scene was more active back then. After that I quit and most of the people I used to play with quit too. So stop saying to people you not as good as you thought. And before gw2 I was a top player and GW1, and that game was closer of an E-sport than this game will ever be. And the skill level in GW1 was also higher than GW2. This game was made for casual players, not hardcore PvPer’s such as myself and a few others top players that quit the game way back because the lack of balance and features. This games is easy as hell…….compare to a lot of other games. And WvW GvG is not real GvG, as a top player that played real GvG in GW1, that kitten is insulting. Sure you PvEr’s may find it fun, but the reality is that is a kitten zerg vs zerg no skill, no tactical play. It always comes down to who has the most AOE.

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Posted by: Xom.9264

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I think what we are seeing here is a reality check for some Tpvp folks that used to farm pugs and for the people that thought not having a team was holding them back.

When one of the strong GvG players on my friendslist seen I was rated he decided to get top 100 went from 0% to top 70 (in 100 range now) in less then a week. Moral of the story, you are all not nearly as good as you think I and many others have had loses from 4v5 its happens but law of averages says you will climb if you have the skill.

There are alot of things wrong with the PvP side of the game namely conquest mode and the leader boards have people still top 100 that have not played a single game in over a month however if you are good you can climb to top 100-200.

Hmmmmm………. we are talking about rage quitters 4v5, 3v5….. How can people climb the LB when in most matches you are outnumbered. And being on the LB means nothing, specially solo queue LB.

So leaderboards are no indication of skill because you cant climb them now that more people are doing them. Also GvG is not skilled because you never played it.

MMO players these days, there was a time when people would just admit if others were better and try to improve, now folks just blame everything else but themselves.

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Posted by: dash.1952

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I think what we are seeing here is a reality check for some Tpvp folks that used to farm pugs and for the people that thought not having a team was holding them back.

When one of the strong GvG players on my friendslist seen I was rated he decided to get top 100 went from 0% to top 70 (in 100 range now) in less then a week. Moral of the story, you are all not nearly as good as you think I and many others have had loses from 4v5 its happens but law of averages says you will climb if you have the skill.

There are alot of things wrong with the PvP side of the game namely conquest mode and the leader boards have people still top 100 that have not played a single game in over a month however if you are good you can climb to top 100-200.

I hate to step on some toes, but I agree. I’ve heard people complaining about 4-on-5. Yes, it does suck, and I’m not a fan of when it happens. However, I have been in matches where my team has won those matches. It boils down to how good of a player you are, and how well you can work with others. If you are a skilled player, it will show. I have lost matches and gone up in ranking, just because of how I played that match. Just….do the best you can, and have fun. At the end of a day, its just a game.

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Posted by: NevirSayDie.6235

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I hate to step on some toes, but I agree. I’ve heard people complaining about 4-on-5. Yes, it does suck, and I’m not a fan of when it happens. However, I have been in matches where my team has won those matches. It boils down to how good of a player you are, and how well you can work with others. If you are a skilled player, it will show. I have lost matches and gone up in ranking, just because of how I played that match. Just….do the best you can, and have fun. At the end of a day, its just a game.

I think ranking is only affected by win/loss. You may have gotten put against a much higher-ranked opponent, which can improve your rating with a loss, or perhaps hadn’t played for a bit so your rank had decayed a little?

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Posted by: dash.1952

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I think ranking is only affected by win/loss. You may have gotten put against a much higher-ranked opponent, which can improve your rating with a loss, or perhaps hadn’t played for a bit so your rank had decayed a little?

Not to bust the bubble on the theory, but it would be difficult for me to have been put up against a higher-ranked opponent when I lost that match giving what my own rank. I think there are a number of things being factored in the algorithm, which is why winning/losing isn’t as important as how you play the match (if you are focusing on your rank).

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Posted by: DiBiddilyBop.1470

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Not to bust the bubble on the theory, but it would be difficult for me to have been put up against a higher-ranked opponent when I lost that match giving what my own rank. I think there are a number of things being factored in the algorithm, which is why winning/losing isn’t as important as how you play the match (if you are focusing on your rank).

Win/loss is at the very least a major contributor to your ranking, if not all there is to it. If I win games, my rank goes up. If I lose, my rank goes down, but my play style is identical between games. Sure, some games I do better than others, but I would expect my rank to remain somewhat consistent if win/loss wasn’t the biggest factor in determining rank. Instead, my rank swings wildly up or down depending on whether or not I’ve won or lost.

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Posted by: dash.1952

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Win/loss is at the very least a major contributor to your ranking, if not all there is to it. If I win games, my rank goes up. If I lose, my rank goes down, but my play style is identical between games. Sure, some games I do better than others, but I would expect my rank to remain somewhat consistent if win/loss wasn’t the biggest factor in determining rank. Instead, my rank swings wildly up or down depending on whether or not I’ve won or lost.

I suspect win/loss has an impact upon rankings, but not near the extent some may believe. Of course, no one has seen the algorithms, so we are sharing opinions based upon observations on a very limited data set.

What I was sharing is what I have observed based upon my own experience, and from wins/losses of others who are around me on the upper end of the leader board. I’ve noticed that a lot of them don’t have particularly high win%. In general, the range is from ~60% to 90%. If win percentage was a heavy factor for rank, I would expect to see most of the win ‘s to be in the high 80’s/90’s. In looking through the leader board, I do see a trend where higher percentages tend to be ranked higher, but then I still see people who are ranked a lot lower, even though their win % is high (example: BusOnTheRun.2310 ranked 675 with 84 for wins).

I think win % are more like an indicator of a person playing well, opposed to win’s being the primary metric being measured. Players who are skillful are more likely to have higher win percentages as they will outplay their opponents. Even if these players are skilled though, they can still be put on teams that don’t play well together, which is why it is vital that win %’s are not the highest measurement.

Personally, I’ve been in matches where my team could not sync together well. Players would go down, and other people wouldn’t res them. Meanwhile, the other team would be quick to res one another, and it was difficult to kill any of them. I found myself sparring against two members over a control point, while the rest of my team was slaughtered continuously on other areas of the map. Needless to say, we lost that match.

Despite setbacks I’ve seen with having games where my team was outnumbered, or being on a team where the teamwork was outmatched by the opponent, I still managed to make it on the leader board. I share this to encourage others not to worry so much about winning, as having fun and playing the match well. I see a lot of myths people discuss about the players on the upper end of the leader board, and I have to smile because I know many of them simply are not true.

I understand opinions will differ, especially since experiences can vary vastly. I know it is frustrating to be in a 4 vs 5 match. The next time it happens though, look at it as an opportunity to prove your skill. If you are a skilled player, you should enjoy the challenge it brings, and know how to manage situations that are unfair. I know I do.

Just some food for thought.

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