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Ever since reaching Ruby I simply cannot go anywhere in Solo Q, I started this with over 60% win rate in ranked and now I am bit shy of 50% win rate, out of my last 40 matches I maybe won 5 (being generous here)… to the point I am actually surprised if I win… and I am just at a complete loss as to:

Have I suddenly become a bad player?
Perhaps I always was a bad player and this is where I’m supposed to be settled (ruby 0 pips)?
Have I reached Ruby by sheer power of grind?
How come I am most of the times at the side that does stupid kitten like:
– kill beast in Forest instead of going mid at the start
– “pro-strat” push far moves that end up killing everyone
– failed lord pushes that end up losing all 3 caps
– Ignore the 11:30/8:30/2:30 buffs in Temple yet someone always goes Ferocity and loses mid
– I always say “going mid, who’s taking home?” yet 60% of the time I get complete silence from all 4 other members (bad sign from my experience)
– etc, etc, etc…
Is everyone abusing MMR and I’m not?
Shouldn’t my MMR by now be tanked to rabbit/amber that I should be getting easy matches here and there?

I consider myself a pretty capable player, dragon rank for a while now (way before HoT), versatile in most professions, since HoT I played Druid/Scrapper/Auramancer/Cancer Rev, can win most of my 1v1s, conquest or stronghold the results seem to be similar whenever I solo Q

All these questions are keeping me from sleeping and remain unanswered, would love some input…

Well if i may,

Pushing far at start to me is a good thing

We dont know what you are running and how you are playing.

For instance today i ran far fought 2 revs and downed 1 and we won mid and home and i died eventually.

2 people from mid ran home because 1 person ran there and im coming of respawn. This is a terrible play by the 2 since only 1 head is at home. We kill the person and they continue onto beast. We lose mid and from that point lost the match.

Now these are people in ruby/diamond/legendary divisions. Even if you are solo queing you should be counting heads and decide whether or not you should be in this fight. You also need to be aware of when your teammates die and where.

Lastly just try to realize what your build is good at. For instance your running rev so i would suggest trying to stay in 2 vs 2 and 1 vs 1 fights if your good at them but like i said idk your images dont show your build. Good luck though

Your loosing sleep over a video game? I think you should just take a break, or try to make a couple friends in the mists. You could also befriend good players you see in matches and start up a conversation. You would be amazed at how well people respond to things like great game what build are you running? * would you like to try a few matches as a team?* Even a * wow our team was terrible, but i seen you played great* gets people talking. From my experience 3 or 4 man teams work the best anyways. I got frustrated with the system as well, but i just play something else for a while and sleep like a baby. Try not to stress about things you have no control over.

You were never very good. Look at your stats. Get better.

The current system is terrible, but you have a lot of improving to do.

Ginaz.3206:

You were never very good. Look at your stats. Get better.

The current system is terrible, but you have a lot of improving to do.

Screenshot yours and post them.

ruby is hard. For me I find that you have to carry almost as hard as the lower tiers except everyone you face are not noobs you can just blow up. That + all the ruby+amber duos really screw up your progression.

I won’t get too down. I looked at your scores and they are pretty much all over 350. Many are in the 400s. This usually means someone, maybe you, messed up big time. This happens. Remember it is a game. Reflect on what you can do better since you can’t control others.

Also remember, the current system does have some flaws (understatement) and just play games to play. I had a 6 game losing streak yesterday only to win 3 games in a row and go up a tier and half in Sapphire. That doesn’t feel right either.

kdaddy.5431:

For instance today i ran far fought 2 revs and downed 1 and we won mid and home and i died eventually.

2 people from mid ran home because 1 person ran there and im coming of respawn. This is a terrible play by the 2 since only 1 head is at home. We kill the person and they continue onto beast. We lose mid and from that point lost the match.

Pushing far is a good theme to debate on, it depends situations, but generally in solo queue it’s not such a good idea, since it revolves only on the opponent not being smart, plus on your team being able to deal with a 4v3 or 3v3 on mid.

I’ve played countless of solo games, on average this works better than expected, especially on a thief since you will generally have 2 players chasing you, but this isn’t a tactic to rely on, especially in the actual meta, where i have seen several times one DH guardian winning a 1v3, or similar situations. I can deal with meta builds, but i don’t know if my teammates can too

I feel sometimes the same as the OP, same jokes happening quite often, especially on foefire lord, or on khylo with the treb

Ginaz.3206:

You were never very good. Look at your stats. Get better.

The current system is terrible, but you have a lot of improving to do.

Thank you for the thoughtful reply.

eureeka.5368:

Your loosing sleep over a video game? I think you should just take a break, or try to make a couple friends in the mists. You could also befriend good players you see in matches and start up a conversation. You would be amazed at how well people respond to things like great game what build are you running? * would you like to try a few matches as a team?* Even a * wow our team was terrible, but i seen you played great* gets people talking. From my experience 3 or 4 man teams work the best anyways. I got frustrated with the system as well, but i just play something else for a while and sleep like a baby. Try not to stress about things you have no control over.

I was being overly exaggerating about that no sleep bit, there is nothing wrong with my sleep really, but ty

I was also referring only to solo Q, when I feel I really want to win matches I team with friends/ppl I met through matches and I win more matches, I am just mind boggled about my horrible stats in solo Q which makes me wonder if I’m the bad apple ruining it for the team every single time and find that hard to believe.

Mysticjedi.6053:

I won’t get too down. I looked at your scores and they are pretty much all over 350. Many are in the 400s. This usually means someone, maybe you, messed up big time. This happens. Remember it is a game. Reflect on what you can do better since you can’t control others.

Also remember, the current system does have some flaws (understatement) and just play games to play. I had a 6 game losing streak yesterday only to win 3 games in a row and go up a tier and half in Sapphire. That doesn’t feel right either.

These are just my last 10 matches obviously, there are many games that end up completely botched with scores like 500-150 as well as the close ones, I didn’t have those problems until the last tier in Saphire and since Ruby it became even worse, get to Ruby and see for yourself.

1) Conceptualizing players as “good” or “bad” is not only overly simplistic, but also doesn’t do much to help you improve aside from either inflating or deflating your own worth (depending on which bucket you put yourself in).

2) It’s possible that you’ve reached the rank that best represents your current abilities.

3) It’s natural to perceive your team as usually being worse than the enemy team due to psychological bias. Don’t focus on this. Work with your team as well as you can and don’t let it bother you when teammates make bad decisions. Help them if you can, but don’t get caught arguing with them if they refuse to take your advice or get defensive. If someone rotates badly, just adjust your personal strategy as best as possible.

4) Some people abuse the MMR, but that’s not an excuse for your current position.

5) If you can, record some of your games and then go back and watch them to see what goes wrong and why.

Tl;dr – Focus on what you can do and not what someone else should have done. If your current approach isn’t working, try something else. Pips will come when you focus on being a better player and don’t get distracted by focusing on your pips or the shortcomings of your team.

I think part of it is that everyone in these tiers think “their” way is the best way, and sometimes, those strategies work with everyone else’s, sometimes not.

And as you get more “experienced” players in the team, the less likely each member will adjust their own playstyle to compensate for the team.

All I can give for advice is to play as you do, and if in the first few minutes of the game, your team is wiping or unable to cap points, change it up. If you’re lucky, your team can change it up early enough to be able to fight back. Other times, you end up just shy of a win, only because your team didn’t figure out how to work together soon enough.

I’ve been on both sides, some games start out horribly, then we figure things out and pull the win, whereas some will start off quite well, but then for some reason we slip and lose.

Dahkeus.8243:

1) Conceptualizing players as “good” or “bad” is not only overly simplistic, but also doesn’t do much to help you improve aside from either inflating or deflating your own worth (depending on which bucket you put yourself in).

2) It’s possible that you’ve reached the rank that best represents your current abilities.

3) It’s natural to perceive your team as usually being worse than the enemy team due to psychological bias. Don’t focus on this. Work with your team as well as you can and don’t let it bother you when teammates make bad decisions. Help them if you can, but don’t get caught arguing with them if they refuse to take your advice or get defensive. If someone rotates badly, just adjust your personal strategy as best as possible.

4) Some people abuse the MMR, but that’s not an excuse for your current position.

5) If you can, record some of your games and then go back and watch them to see what goes wrong and why.

Tl;dr – Focus on what you can do and not what someone else should have done. If your current approach isn’t working, try something else. Pips will come when you focus on being a better player and don’t get distracted by focusing on your pips or the shortcomings of your team.

This is probably the most sensible thing I’ve ever read on these forums. Thank you.

Ven Zehn.6573:

I think part of it is that everyone in these tiers think “their” way is the best way, and sometimes, those strategies work with everyone else’s, sometimes not.

And as you get more “experienced” players in the team, the less likely each member will adjust their own playstyle to compensate for the team.

All I can give for advice is to play as you do, and if in the first few minutes of the game, your team is wiping or unable to cap points, change it up. If you’re lucky, your team can change it up early enough to be able to fight back. Other times, you end up just shy of a win, only because your team didn’t figure out how to work together soon enough.

I’ve been on both sides, some games start out horribly, then we figure things out and pull the win, whereas some will start off quite well, but then for some reason we slip and lose.

Definitely part of the challenge, I guess the problem in solo Q is that in order to win you have to play as a team as running around doing your own thing ain’t gonna work at this level, it quickly gets very tiring to to tryhard to work as a team with a different team of 4 randoms every game.

Woot matches get harder as you rank up

News at 11

Woot matches get harder as you rank up

News at 11

PadreNike.1803:

Ginaz.3206:

You were never very good. Look at your stats. Get better.

The current system is terrible, but you have a lot of improving to do.

Thank you for the thoughtful reply.

You’re welcome, maybe you’ll improve

Ginaz.3206:

PadreNike.1803:

Ginaz.3206:

You were never very good. Look at your stats. Get better.

The current system is terrible, but you have a lot of improving to do.

Thank you for the thoughtful reply.

You’re welcome, maybe you’ll improve

Please print your stats so we can all discect your performance.

Abazigal.3679:

kdaddy.5431:

For instance today i ran far fought 2 revs and downed 1 and we won mid and home and i died eventually.

2 people from mid ran home because 1 person ran there and im coming of respawn. This is a terrible play by the 2 since only 1 head is at home. We kill the person and they continue onto beast. We lose mid and from that point lost the match.

Pushing far is a good theme to debate on, it depends situations, but generally in solo queue it’s not such a good idea, since it revolves only on the opponent not being smart, plus on your team being able to deal with a 4v3 or 3v3 on mid.

I’ve played countless of solo games, on average this works better than expected, especially on a thief since you will generally have 2 players chasing you, but this isn’t a tactic to rely on, especially in the actual meta, where i have seen several times one DH guardian winning a 1v3, or similar situations. I can deal with meta builds, but i don’t know if my teammates can too

I feel sometimes the same as the OP, same jokes happening quite often, especially on foefire lord, or on khylo with the treb

If a Dh is winning fights 1 vs almost anything people are doing something wrong.

Also what is your build good at, on my necro i always run far to start a match since its a 1 vs 1 – 2 vs 2 build. If im on ranger i try to engage in team fights and support.

Also 30% of conquest is good rotations, another 30% is builds (what counters what), 40% of it is winning fights.

Obviously i made these numbers up but if i go far and no one goes to our home, mid should be 4 vs 4 in about 10 sec which is a even fight. People have to count heads and have to rotate.