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Posted by: Eurantien.4632

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I gotta be honest. I have no idea who Phantaram is.

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Posted by: Zirith.6429

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Europe:

Denshee (Ele,Multiclass)
Helseth (Mesmer)
ROM (Warrior)
Sizer (Thief)
Tage (Guardian)

North America:

Kaypud (Warrior)
Phantaram (Elementalist)
Supcutie (Thief/Mesmer)
Zombify (Necromancer)
Zoose (Elementalist)

EU has a solid team comp while NA doesn’t have a Guardian. Hmmm….

EU is a team, and pretty much everyone can play every class well, but teams dont really need a guardian especially against that eu team comp. Like eu has almost nothing that you would want stab for other than earthshaker if rom even runs hambow. More burst would work really well against them, instagib the mes, ele, or thief and you pretty much win the teamfight.

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Posted by: Lux.7169

Lux.7169

I gotta be honest. I have no idea who Phantaram is.

Strong ele from EU who occasionally plays on NA. He also regularly streams on twitch. When I say he is from EU I mean he primarily plays on EU, but I think he lives in the US which is probably why he was on the US roster.

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Posted by: Carbonize.1530

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I gotta be honest. I have no idea who Phantaram is.

Great ele who was on Team Paradigm when they beat Car Crash at pax (although I believe he played necro). He also has a great stream that is helpful to anyone interested in playing ele.

I believe he is currently on Team Mist (TCG) but may have to be on NA all stars due to living in the US.

Great player who maintains a calm attitude and communicates well.

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Posted by: Readymade.1672

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I gotta be honest. I have no idea who Phantaram is.

Great ele who was on Team Paradigm when they beat Car Crash at pax (although I believe he played necro). He also has a great stream that is helpful to anyone interested in playing ele.

I believe he is currently on Team Mist (TCG) but may have to be on NA all stars due to living in the US.

Great player who maintains a calm attitude and communicates well.

Obviously EU players would vote for him then since he’s likely the one candidate they know.
Just seems odd that a player with 45 solo queue games and ~150 team queues would be an “NA All-Star” compared to I AK or Marvin with nearly 10K games.

Either way, should be fun watching NA get stomped! I don’t think there’s a comp with those 5 players that would hold up in NA team queue let alone against a legitimate Euro team.

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Posted by: Blackjack.5621

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I wonder why Helseth wasn´t allowed to go to pax when he said he´d bring a firearm, but now firearms are ok in germany haha.

And I´m pretty sure anet is hiding voting results cause they are void, too.

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Posted by: Twolalume.7231

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Here I thought the entire point of this tournament was to make spvp look good and generate some interest in it. Why would you pit an established team against a pug then? Who’d want to watch that?

This is BS. I am rooting for China.

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Posted by: Lux.7169

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WTB Solo Q Heroes tournament

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Posted by: style.6173

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I wonder why Helseth wasn´t allowed to go to pax when he said he´d bring a firearm, but now firearms are ok in germany haha.

And I´m pretty sure anet is hiding voting results cause they are void, too.

The voting didn’t matter. ANET picked the people they wanted. Oh, and they left a number of all-stars off the list simply because someone at anet got rekt.

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Posted by: Carbonize.1530

Carbonize.1530

I viewed the whole thing as more of an exposure opportunity than anything else. That being said, everyone on that list is helpful to the community by either streaming or making themselves available to other players.

All are good representatives of the game.

I don’t know all the players, but this was done by votes and I’m sure the people that have written “class guides” and have done more than just queue up a lot would be more likely to get voted in.

Side note: A-net, please send Blu regardless.

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Posted by: Lux.7169

Lux.7169

Didn’t someone say they would start up a donation fund to get Blu to gamescon if he didn’t make it via voting?

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Posted by: Carbonize.1530

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Well there would be little to no community without Blu doing what he has done as far (TOL, weekly tourneys, 2v2s, 3v3s etc…).

Is there some long line of people behind Blu ready to jump in and do what he does? So if not him, then who?

He has been the platform so far for teams to show what they can do when there wasn’t another.

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Posted by: OlrunTheBlade.1486

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It sounds like Lopez wants to take up shoutcasting! Welcome to the club, and good luck!

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Posted by: Elxdark.9702

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It would probably be better if that failed too. I think we reward mediocrity too much in this community because we have a hard time getting much more, given the state of the game. Blu is a pretty terrible shoutcaster who’s often missing very basic calls.

Blu is the only reason why this game has tournaments every week.
Blu is the only reason why gw2 gets more than 500 viewers sometimes.

And wow lopez you should do very well at shoutcasting, I’d like to hear your cute voice.

People like you is what makes me hate this community.

Also, he totally deserved his trip to gamescon.

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Posted by: Reevz.2617

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@ tage
yeah dude, i mean i voted for who seemed the best via my perspective, though i only voted for 3 of you because i refuse to vote more than 3/5 of a single team. either way hf @ gamescom give denshee a slurp real nice and close to his ear for me

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Posted by: Sensotix.4106

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I don’t think you guys know the meaning of an “all-star” tournament
basically it means that there are known players from different teams playing with each other…apparently guys like fake and others didn’t deserve to play because team mist got pushed by blu etc and now we have the full roaster play at lan..
but tbh i didn’t expect much from this

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Posted by: GoogleBrandon.5073

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I am sad because Fake is not on

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Posted by: Romek.4201

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dont believe this results

1.) everyone and there dog voted for blu – im sure
2.) no way people voted for this full team in eu

alot ip resets in last week i guess

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Posted by: Maylo.5892

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I am not even going to watch this joke, this is not an all-star anymore. No surprise for me tho that major of the community voted like this, and with all the ip system abuse, it is just disappointing…

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Posted by: Blackjack.5621

Blackjack.5621

Are u stupid or something

1 day before tourny and where it was wrote that he got perma ban for all events tell me???

No

and

Here I tell you as you wish : “Unfavorable conduct in and out of game can and will result in your removal from this event and future events.”

I just wanted to point out how anet doesn´t stick to what they say. I even put a laugh behind it, but you don´t seem to get irony. First they find an excuse to not invite you and kitten you over and now by using this void voting system they kitten over all other players.

And with your teams behaviour you still wonder where all those haters come from?

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Posted by: Aereniel.7356

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To everyone crying about the voting process and insinuating foul play – For the love of Jebus please desist with the drama queen act and realize that spreading unsubstantiated allegations is not the adult way to voice your discontent. It’s not smart, productive or classy. All you accomplish is making yourselves look like sore losers and whiny little kittens.

If you truly enjoy playing GW2 pvp and would like this game to grow, try toning down the sodium and being productive for once in your lives. Stream your gameplay, write guides, educate newbies. Be a positive influence on the community, and who knows, maybe it’s you who gets to go to a gaming convention of your choice in the future.

But whatever you do, stop being a

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Posted by: Acrisor.8097

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Pretty happy with most of the winners.


I am very happy too with the selected players. I am looking forward to see them. It will be an awesome great fun.



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Posted by: Loco.4561

Loco.4561

What an absolute shame that Rom made it in as an “All-Star” since he is probably the most arrogant player I have ever had the misfortune to speak too.

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Posted by: Benjamin.7893

Benjamin.7893

I gotta be honest. I have no idea who Phantaram is.

Some guy who came back for all star fame and who will leave again afterwards .

Easy win for EU 500-0 every game

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Posted by: Aereniel.7356

Aereniel.7356

Exactly, or just act like an kitten like helseth and you will got enough votes to go anyway!

The surly Swede is a master tier troll, there is no denying that. His online personality is about as grounded as the International Space Station. It’s equally undeniable that he has done quite a bit for the community though his stream and video guides, so it’s not as if all of his antics are condescending or disruptive. I have actually received constructive advice on his stream chat on at least two separate occasions, during neither of which I was abused too excessively. Meaning I only cried a little.

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Posted by: Lettuce.2945

Lettuce.2945

The Na team comp seems like it was created by the EU players.

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Posted by: KOPPER.1458

KOPPER.1458

I have actually received constructive advice on his stream chat on at least two separate occasions, during neither of which I was abused too excessively. Meaning I only cried a little.

I think you are joking? Or I hope so…

I expected this when watching the ToL qualifiers. It was riddled with vote for Team Mist. I am not sure how entertaining it’s going to be watching a team who is overly comfortable with one another verse a team who isn’t.

I am not going to call foul play on voting, it is what it is. I hope that it is entertaining, but I have my doubts. I will say that if it is a stomp then it will probably do more harm than good for this community. I hope I am wrong.

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Posted by: Zirith.6429

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the voting should have been restricted to once per account to rule out any foul play. Still really annoyed with anet for not sending blu to cast, but there are so many disappointments with the game at this point that I can’t be surprised.

I’m not even interested in allstars because it should have been a match between apex and tm, now it is just tm vs not a team, although I still think that na has a chance if they practice for 2 weeks together.

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Posted by: Avitori.6093

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I just have one issue with the players chosen.
Lets look at the stats:
Team que win/loss (ie games played)
Marvin:
4643/2255

Kensuda:
2245/802

AK
3315/1706

Phantaram:
132/54

Now… i’ve been playing NA team q for a little over a year now (I didn’t start at release, which I believe phantaram did) and I have over 2k games played in team q and 2500+ including solo arena on my NA account. I think i’ve come across Phantaram here on NA maybe 3-4 times that I can remember here. Correct me if i’m wrong, but I don’t remember ever seeing him on any team in the Mistpedia weekly or ToL for NA either. So… I just don’t understand why he is on the NA side when imo he should have been on the EU voting list. I would have liked someone I see actually playing in NA get the spot. I want someone to actually represent NA, and someone who shows dedication to playing on our side of the fence. I guess that’s what happens when EU is allowed to vote for NA as well.

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Posted by: Ralkuth.1456

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All-star should have been the best of each team, by definition.
It would make more sense if we had 2 rounds of voting, first selecting the best of each team, then voting for the players themselves.
The voting system and setup was badly handled from the start as the votes are not account-restricted and there are multiple candidates from the same team…

Now we get to watch TCG vs NA pug…
And good luck to China.

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Posted by: Lux.7169

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All-star should have been the best of each team, by definition.
It would make more sense if we had 2 rounds of voting, first selecting the best of each team, then voting for the players themselves.
The voting system and setup was badly handled from the start as the votes are not account-restricted and there are multiple candidates from the same team…

Now we get to watch TCG vs NA pug…
And good luck to China.

It’s ok, someone on China learned how to dodge roll. Revolutionary!

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Posted by: Covis.6037

Covis.6037

Tournament of “We have esports plz come back?”

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Posted by: Benjamin.8237

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I just have one issue with the players chosen.
Lets look at the stats:
Team que win/loss (ie games played)
Marvin:
4643/2255

Kensuda:
2245/802

AK
3315/1706

Phantaram:
132/54

Now… i’ve been playing NA team q for a little over a year now (I didn’t start at release, which I believe phantaram did) and I have over 2k games played in team q and 2500+ including solo arena on my NA account. I think i’ve come across Phantaram here on NA maybe 3-4 times that I can remember here. Correct me if i’m wrong, but I don’t remember ever seeing him on any team in the Mistpedia weekly or ToL for NA either. So… I just don’t understand why he is on the NA side when imo he should have been on the EU voting list. I would have liked someone I see actually playing in NA get the spot. I want someone to actually represent NA, and someone who shows dedication to playing on our side of the fence. I guess that’s what happens when EU is allowed to vote for NA as well.

Phantaram was quite big at launch. He has mostly played on EU however as he lives in the states he is on the NA roster. It doesn’t knock the fact that he is still a great ele…but two on one team.

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Posted by: Lachanche.6859

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Guys don’t underestimate china, if you watched the elite tournament on arena.khongzong.com you would know those guys definitely know how to play, they also got slowmotion clips of sizer in there so i guess they know what to expect.

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Posted by: sendmark.4731

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It’s ok, someone on China learned how to dodge roll. Revolutionary!

You can laugh now, but the fact is esports is taking off in China in a massive way. MLG bulding the first esports stadium and two Chinese teams in the DOTA2 final for $5 million. If they take GW2 seriously, they will dominate. Although tbh I highly doubt anet can put up the prize money to tempt them.

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Posted by: Benjamin.7893

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You guys do realise gw2 is nonexistent on yy and douyutv right.

China “esports” get a grip. This game will never be 1

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Posted by: Rolyate.6753

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Phantaram has 2 accounts and was established an all-star very early in the game, thus if you did not follow PvP at that time, he will seem like a nobody.

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Posted by: Lux.7169

Lux.7169

It’s ok, someone on China learned how to dodge roll. Revolutionary!

You can laugh now, but the fact is esports is taking off in China in a massive way. MLG bulding the first esports stadium and two Chinese teams in the DOTA2 final for $5 million. If they take GW2 seriously, they will dominate. Although tbh I highly doubt anet can put up the prize money to tempt them.

Do you play on the Chinese servers? Didn’t think so. I do and at this point am tired of linking my PvP record there so I won’t bother.

They’re not taking it seriously and they are extremely far away from competing with even percentile pugs.

Half of their tournaments to date were actually hotjoin style where you join a random team and get a praise if your team won and you got another prize of you had a higher personal score…

If they score more than 20 points I am already fully convinced it was rigged so as to not completely humiliate and embarrass the players of their region.

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Posted by: uberkingkong.8041

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Phantaram has 2 accounts and was established an all-star very early in the game, thus if you did not follow PvP at that time, he will seem like a nobody.

Ya I remember way back then, team legends or whatever.
NA beat EU.
I remember supcutie as the Mesmer and I’m pretty sure phantaram was EU Mesmer because I don’t remember him from NA.

I wouldn’t mind if they made stunningstyles an allstar, hes really good and I hardly ever see him in any of these tournaments. Since everyone is like ‘wtf no guardian’.

If you ask me, there should’ve been an option ‘type in players name’.

Not sure if these guys that made this tournament are from USA but in USA when you go vote for a president they give you options but also give you an option to write in some random persons name that you think is best.

Also I was thinking, I think it was Caed or someone else but somebody said ‘Everyone knows me in pvp but when I leave hearts of mist nobody knows me’. Well just thinking if they did leave an option for you to insert name, I wouldn’t be surprised if some WvW commander or somebody that PvE’s came in and was considered a pvp allstar rather than some of these guys. There is a lot of good WvW and PvE players out there.

Also the fact that active PvP community is like 3000 people, due to streams not getting that many viewers. Than you got the PvE WvW community like 300000 people.

I’m sure if some Allstar PvE WvW’er was in this tournament there’d be an increase in viewership. I’m on JQ server and I don’t pve wvw that much but there’s a commander named cloudfly, hes pretty good and people know who he is and he leads massive zergs to victory on jade quarry. I’m sure if he was on the all star team he’d lead a massive zerg to watch this all star game.

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Posted by: Romek.4201

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Phantaram has 2 accounts and was established an all-star very early in the game, thus if you did not follow PvP at that time, he will seem like a nobody.

Ya I remember way back then, team legends or whatever.
NA beat EU.
I remember supcutie as the Mesmer and I’m pretty sure phantaram was EU Mesmer because I don’t remember him from NA.

I wouldn’t mind if they made stunningstyles an allstar, hes really good and I hardly ever see him in any of these tournaments. Since everyone is like ‘wtf no guardian’.

If you ask me, there should’ve been an option ‘type in players name’.

Not sure if these guys that made this tournament are from USA but in USA when you go vote for a president they give you options but also give you an option to write in some random persons name that you think is best.

Also I was thinking, I think it was Caed or someone else but somebody said ‘Everyone knows me in pvp but when I leave hearts of mist nobody knows me’. Well just thinking if they did leave an option for you to insert name, I wouldn’t be surprised if some WvW commander or somebody that PvE’s came in and was considered a pvp allstar rather than some of these guys. There is a lot of good WvW and PvE players out there.

Also the fact that active PvP community is like 3000 people, due to streams not getting that many viewers. Than you got the PvE WvW community like 300000 people.

I’m sure if some Allstar PvE WvW’er was in this tournament there’d be an increase in viewership. I’m on JQ server and I don’t pve wvw that much but there’s a commander named cloudfly, hes pretty good and people know who he is and he leads massive zergs to victory on jade quarry. I’m sure if he was on the all star team he’d lead a massive zerg to watch this all star game.

phantaram is no mesmer he playes ELE and he played in team paradigm (later Team Curse) with Xeph, Teldo, Azshene and Symbolic and it was first and only gw2 team which got sponsored

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Posted by: Lux.7169

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There’s very little doubt in my mind that China will eventually dominate these tournaments. My guess is they have way more competition than the US and Europe because the game launched in a not-terrible state.

They don’t have a competitive scene due to a variety of circumstances. This is why I personally don’t think the scene formed:
-They saw how the competitive scene here was treated
-The VIP system they have which they are obsessing over, encourages them to focus more on PvE since it greatly rewards you for completing every option of the daily.
-There is a curfew for anyone under 18 (pretty sure it’s 18). I think it’s an anti-gaming addiction law where if you are below 18 the game forces you to stop playing that day after 2 hours of being in game. This cannot be bypassed since you need an ID to register for an account.

There are a few other reasons which I feel contribute to the lack of a competitive scene over there but these are the major detractors.

So even if they wanted to field a competitive scene it’s 30 min Qs 24/7 and when you do get a match its ridiculously easy to beat people who don’t know how to dodge. That being said, if you want to improve in that environment how are you going to do it when there’s 0 competition?

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Posted by: Posi.4251

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I don’t think you guys know the meaning of an “all-star” tournament
basically it means that there are known players from different teams playing with each other…apparently guys like fake and others didn’t deserve to play because team mist got pushed by blu etc and now we have the full roaster play at lan..
but tbh i didn’t expect much from this

I am totally agree with Sensotix, no hate to Team Mist, i like all of them, but Sensotix is so right .
@Grouch no hate, but change the name to Team Mist vs Allstars of NA and China Kappa
Edit: change name to Team Mist vs NA/EU mix guys vs China allstars PLX

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Posted by: Static.9841

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This is complete BS. A full existing team vs actual All Stars from different teams as it’s supposed to be. GG. This isn’t all stars, this is NA all stars Vs an EU Tol team. If Anet were going to send a full team to Gamescon you might as well have just sent the ToL winners from each region instead. What a joke.

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Posted by: SunnyLane.9386

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This is complete BS. A full existing team vs actual All Stars from different teams as it’s supposed to be. GG. This isn’t all stars, this is NA all stars Vs an EU Tol team. If Anet were going to send a full team to Gamescon you might as well have just sent the ToL winners from each region instead. What a joke.

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Posted by: JustTrogdor.7892

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This is complete BS. A full existing team vs actual All Stars from different teams as it’s supposed to be. GG. This isn’t all stars, this is NA all stars Vs an EU Tol team. If Anet were going to send a full team to Gamescon you might as well have just sent the ToL winners from each region instead. What a joke.

This.

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Posted by: Zodian.6597

Zodian.6597

Blu’s fundraiser has been funded 100% already! https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-blu-get-to-gamescom

Looks like Colin Johanson himself (GW2 game director) donated like $500. Props to Colin.

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