"Invulnerability" and "Stealth"

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Posted by: SweetPotato.7456

SweetPotato.7456

These ability in PvP
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Invulnerability
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Stealth

these two ability/skills whatever you call it, must not be too strong until it leaves a players unable to counter what a foe is doing.

My thinking, when one have a + plus for oneself against foes, there should always be a – negative effect that an opponent can use to counter said plus, otherwise it would just make this person with the plus " Invincible".

Scenarios
You were about to finished off an opponent after a fight, then comes this person who when into a mass cloaking, they are hidden from your view making you unable to complete what you’ve started. So you try to use reveal skills but nothing happens. because they have an edge over you, they stealth, you are left powerless to counter this situation. you can’t even interrupted the teammate who is trying to revive the down foe.

A team mate is downed, you rush in to help trying to interrupt the foe who is finishing off your teammate, you realized they are “invulnerable” or in “stealth” your teammate dies, and you can’t do a thing about it.

Please look into this, in my humble opinion, when one is invulnerable or in stealth one should not be allow to perform any of those things, like finishing off a downed foe, or reviving a downed teammate, sure you can cloak them, if their health is still strong, you may also try to kill off the opponent. But totally leaving one party without any means to remedy a situation is just not very fun in pvp.

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Posted by: Shylock.4653

Shylock.4653

A team mate is downed, you rush in to help trying to interrupt the foe who is finishing off your teammate, you realized they are “invulnerable” or in “stealth” your teammate dies, and you can’t do a thing about it.

There are no 100% safe stomps:

http://qqmore.net/video-guide-countering-safestomps/

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Posted by: Rodzynald.5897

Rodzynald.5897

A team mate is downed, you rush in to help trying to interrupt the foe who is finishing off your teammate, you realized they are “invulnerable” or in “stealth” your teammate dies, and you can’t do a thing about it.

There are no 100% safe stomps:

http://qqmore.net/video-guide-countering-safestomps/

There might not be 100% safe stomps. But not everyone is capable to counter a safe stomp.

Guardian is meant for jolly crusading.

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Posted by: Shadowstep.6049

Shadowstep.6049

You know stealth doesn’t make you invulnerable? You can still use CCs, knockback, just huge dps on the area where your teammate is downed and about to be stomped. The chances you will hit stealthed player are about 90%

Invulnerability is different story. But then you can stealth up your teammate or speed rez them (team rez, banner, quickness etc.)

Oh and just for some experience with stomping, try to down ranger and then stomp them w/o using stealth/invul etc. GL getting past miriad of CCs and rez from pet.

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Posted by: Azure The Heartless.3261

Azure The Heartless.3261

you are left powerless to counter this situation. you can’t even interrupted the teammate who is trying to revive the down foe.

I love how you know where to find the wiki page but failed to read it.

“Characters in stealth cannot be targeted by enemies, but can still be hit by attacks and take damage without breaking stealth.”

Every class in this game has an attack that can hit people without targets or an AOE that does reasonably high damage, sometimes both.

If you know he’s reviving his teammate, stand next to the person that is down and use an attack that Cleaves.

I suggest you actually read the wiki pages to learn about things you can do to actually fight against stealth before requesting that it be nerfed to suit your perceptions.

And, while I’m not someone that knows a lot about invulnerablity, the only classes that have access to true invulnerability have it for three-four seconds at most.

Again, with your magical guide the Wiki, you can find a way to make revving take longer than four seconds via Poison.

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I used to think (build op, pls nerf) like you, but then I took a nerf to the knee.

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Posted by: Puck.9612

Puck.9612

And, while I’m not someone that knows a lot about invulnerablity, the only classes that have access to true invulnerability have it for three-four seconds at most.

and those skills have long cooldowns to balance them out.

Jim Hunter when my other account isn’t suspended

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Posted by: Serious Thought.5394

Serious Thought.5394

Nerf Thief, can rez. Take the F key from Thief, please balance. Ok, we all good. Thief has shortbow 5? Nah, that’s the class. On a sadly serious note, here is a far more effective meta build:

(trolling op a bit)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAoaVlsMhOnY5Tw7Jw/EHIFlPHuheg3ABwC0DhMILB-TJBDABiXGYn9HO4UAAwTAAA

Worst Thief in the world, yes I am.

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Posted by: Shylock.4653

Shylock.4653

There might not be 100% safe stomps. But not everyone is capable to counter a safe stomp.

That‘s right and not everyone is capable of using invulnerability or stealth. Therefore sPvP is a Team-Match, every Team-Member has access to different skills. If everyone should be able to do everything and counter everything we must all play the same class.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

I once had a downed friendly thief teleport out of my ressing him to move closer to a second friendly thief in order to stealth him to cover his stomp of a downed enemy warrior-
https://youtu.be/KoWclhmcJME?t=300

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Posted by: Jana.6831

Jana.6831

I once had a downed friendly thief teleport out of my ressing him to move closer to a second friendly thief in order to stealth him to cover his stomp of a downed enemy warrior-
https://youtu.be/KoWclhmcJME?t=300

That was pretty smart.
One thing I don’t get though: How can you guys play pvp with the narrator’s voice on? Would make me crazy.

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Posted by: Aggrostemma.1703

Aggrostemma.1703

Hehe, brilliant move!

Nerf theefz!!!

Just kiddin’!

If someone understands his/her surrounding this well s/he could be an excellent player with every profession.

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