Guild Wars 2

I placed into NA gold, have dropped down and come back up. But after reading the posts on the thread, maybe I’m really a top 50 player and the match maker is keeping me down. [/sarcasm] I’ll even post a video of gameplay.

https://www.twitch.tv/ccreynolds/v/116793391

Elo hell doesn’t exist in a game that doesn’t use Elo.

Also again it’s Elo not ELO, it’s not a acronym.

Just watched two minutes but that was enough.
You camped staff auto 98% of the time except when you went into avatar form.
You were targeting random people.
You didn’t switch pets to utilize boons / so it wouldn’t die.
You didn’t try to res any of your team mates.
You didn’t try to heal any of your team mates.
Instead of using staff 3 to heal someone, you randomly used it on cap to just heal yourself.
Once it was a lost fight, you went on cap to just suicide and die.

Since NA Gold is roughly around EU Bronze 3. Yea, you’re in your right spot from what I can tell.

Ok I actually watched it. I’ll preface this as someone in the division as you.

You weren’t winning equal fights. You and your team needed +1s on everything, including your 1v1s.

Not rotating as fast as you could. sword 2 is a excellent mobility skill for getting between nodes, use it.

Delayed cooldown usage. At a number of points you ate major damage and only evaded afterwards. A good example was that 1v1 against the LB ranger where he LB4’ed you and was obviously going for a #2 burst, but instead of negating it with SoS you ate the entire thing and only popped SoS when you where down to 3-digit HP. The only thing that saved you was the inability of the other ranger to follow up.

Thought you played well enough to win, but it seems that the others are basically saying you didn’t carry hard enough and therefore you are where you belong. When you notice the stats at the end, you personally did very well and by all accounts were leading your team. Is this reflexive of your actual skill level? I think this would be a better way to rephrase the question. Did you receive enough help from your team? It appears that you did not (2 didn’t get any stats, 2 got 1 stat each – the other team had 4 with top stats only thief didn’t have any).

Good post, more educative value then all the whining, and I commend the poster for posting the video even if he didn’t play too well. The way I see it the matching system does better and better when you play lots of matches, so theres very to little standard deviations such as bad luck/loss streaks. A 10 loss streak on ie. 1000 matches doesn’t hurt you that badly.

The good thing about playing many matches is that you will improve, leading to more wins, hence you will slowly climb. This entire system rewards people that 1) play a lot of matches and 2) want to get better.

The random element is your teammates, you can’t always tell; wether they’re good or not, or sometimes they can be good, but on the phone or cooking dinner making them next to useless.

ELO hell is a myth, it’s mainly statistics.

Sarcasm aside, it’s cool that you are posting this for feedback.

The first 0:00-1:37 is probably a good area for you to analyze for yourself and figure out what you could have done better during that opening. I’d watch more/comment further, but Blackwyn.8127 seems to have broken it down well enough for the most part.

Edit: I’m actually curious, is this satire? I actually am quite surprised you’d be able to even reach gold with this level of game play, which I feel might indicate a problem with rank normalization, which could be an issue, as opposed to any sort of fictional “elo hell”.

Fun fact: if “ELO Hell” (or Gliko-2 hell) was a real thing … it’d help you out, because the other team have five slots the bad players could fill, while your team has four. (Assuming, of course, that you are not, yourself, the “bad player” under discussion.)

So, yah, if you down low, it’s not because the game conspires to keep you there, it’s because you can’t play better than that.

First team fight you get a down and are the slowest person in the world to focus the body. You should have called target and been on it spamming ur stuff. Instead you just auto attack some guy on node and they get a free res lol. So bad. Then you get spiked and do nothing. You just stand there and die. I didnt know if you even running a second weapon set lol.

Then you go mid to 1v1 a druid on a capped node. Yeh, gl with that. “But i’ve got 2 mid!”. Yeh you do but that is because you let your team die around the top buff by just randomly going into an unwinnable 1v1 mid on their node.

Then you run around near your spawn for ages and actually do nothing for ages. To win ANY video game in pvp you need to actually do stuff to win.

You then go far which is fine. Your team mate is getting spiked by a thief and you just sit there in the middle of the cap spamming staff auto (again you never swap wtf). Lukcily your build and pet is so strong you can be somewhat productive.

Then you get another down and you go for a really bad stomp with no chance of getting it whilst not doing damage. And after that you do exactly the same again by going for a stupid stomp and getting urself killed.

You also seem to lack the knowledge to leave the point. You play a totally broken build full of sustain. When you are low it doesnt take long to get to full health again because gw2 is a powercreeped joke of a game. Instead of taking all this free health you just run back in and die.

By this point the game is over and its gg.

Having said all this. You are way better than me (I am terrible). So feel free to ignore my advice.

Lordrosicky.5813:

First team fight you get a down and are the slowest person in the world to focus the body. You should have called target and been on it spamming ur stuff. Instead you just auto attack some guy on node and they get a free res lol. So bad. Then you get spiked and do nothing. You just stand there and die. I didnt know if you even running a second weapon set lol.

Then you go mid to 1v1 a druid on a capped node. Yeh, gl with that. “But i’ve got 2 mid!”. Yeh you do but that is because you let your team die around the top buff by just randomly going into an unwinnable 1v1 mid on their node.

Then you run around near your spawn for ages and actually do nothing for ages. To win ANY video game in pvp you need to actually do stuff to win.

You then go far which is fine. Your team mate is getting spiked by a thief and you just sit there in the middle of the cap spamming staff auto (again you never swap wtf). Lukcily your build and pet is so strong you can be somewhat productive.

Then you get another down and you go for a really bad stomp with no chance of getting it whilst not doing damage. And after that you do exactly the same again by going for a stupid stomp and getting urself killed.

You also seem to lack the knowledge to leave the point. You play a totally broken build full of sustain. When you are low it doesnt take long to get to full health again because gw2 is a powercreeped joke of a game. Instead of taking all this free health you just run back in and die.

By this point the game is over and its gg.

Having said all this. You are way better than me (I am terrible). So feel free to ignore my advice.

Lol

It’s small detail and I didn’t have time to watch full thing (only first mid node fight)nobody focused necro like you and whole your team there …he was happily spamming scepter 1 on roof till he charged shroud and cleaved your whole team to death.

The complete lack of pet management is literally triggering me. I can’t even finish watching your gameplay video.

Your pet is like 90% of your damage and it just sits there on passive and you only use it for f2. And then it dies. And then you never swap to smokescale for a burst in that entire first fight. Do you NOT have beastmaster traited? Why are you NOT swapping for quickness and might, stacking boons on yourself? Is it too hard? If that’s too hard, then at least take the freaking taunt trait for extra CCs if it’s too difficult to swap for boons.

Matchmaking working as intended, why would you even think you deserve higher than gold?

EDIT: Why are you just brainlessly exiting CA? Use it intelligently, kitten you didn’t even get off node before you exited the first time, nor did you use it to peel for your teammates and escape at any moment.

And lean to use your sword. Holy kittenznets, are you seriously just running from point to point without using the 2 for mobility?

EDIT2: I am seriously triggered. Did you know staff 4 can clear chill and immobilize? You should try using it sometime on yourself and your teammates. Did you know swapping pets give you quickness? You should try swapping pets before you use skills. It’ll make your channels go off faster. Did you know smokescale has a teleport burst? You should try using that to pressure thieves and finish off opponents who are low.

What’s triggering me is that there are SO many places where you personally could’ve helped turned the fight around, IF you’d just played a little smarter. You personally threw that match. If you’d help cleave/CC out the ele the first fight, you would’ve killed their sustain and probably won that fight. Even just sending your pet for extra damage, swapping for quickness to drop the CC faster, swapping to sword, not targeting the warrior, even dropping a quick poison with sword could’ve helped…

When you went far, if you’d used your quickness to help heal up or cast skills faster, you would’ve been able to stomp whatever it was that went down there. If you’d used your skills more intelligently, you would’ve been able to help win those fights and changed the course of the match.

If you’d rotated faster (using sword 2 instead of just running…), picked better targets, and not taken dumb matchups against druids or warriors (which you have 0 change of winning), you could’ve helped win.

This match was 100% winnable. You should be blaming yourself for losing.

You said it was possible to climb if you are an average player right?

Faux Play.6104:

Here is the proof that it is possible to climb even if you aren’t a pro league player. All matches were solo queue. If you watch my matches I’m an average player. Look at my w/l record and watch the play. I make plenty of mistakes and I’m not anywhere near a top tier player.

Bronze Match: https://www.twitch.tv/ccreynolds/v/113731925
Win to get gold: https://www.twitch.tv/ccreynolds/v/113732202

If you are truly bored, I recorded most of the matches.
https://www.twitch.tv/ccreynolds/manager/past_broadcasts

Now you are claiming there is ELO hell? Dude, I kid you not, You should not be in gold either on the way you played.

Anyway, you played simply terrible.

I would even nitpick on the simplest details:

• See the Lightning field? Don’t blast it?
• You guys let a necro free cast at mid?
• Then focus on the warrior? Why?
• You went mid with 2 people there? (Map Awareness)
• Your ROLE? You should be in team fights not doing a 2v1 where they hold a node.
• Never or seldom called targets?
• Not using pet swap as much. (Your build revolves on boon sharing why not capitalize on that?
• Just spamming Dodges on sw and dagger?
• You had a 3v1 at far one point, I wouldve left the point and outnumbered and supported at mid. You had a 1v1 with a druid too for some time.
• Spent too much time at far for what? You guys cant even cleave or stomp the druid. Even without stab you wouldve gotten a stomp with Stealth by Reverting out of CA.
• Tranq, 1v1 at mid again? I would just rather decap far. you are a druid. you cannot
  burst someone at mid.
• That 1v1 turned into a 2v1 too. What are you doing there? The cap is theirs, there is no way you would force a decap.
• Spent another time at 1v1 at mid vs war. What good did that accomplish? Nothing. The node is theirs, no matter how long you stay there, they are gaining points per second.
• Yeah lets 2v1 the warrior at mid while our team gets massacred at tranq.
• They get tranq.

lol, I can understand that people are rightfully triggered by the game play that is seen in this post (I already made my response earlier) but try to keep your feedback constructive to the player that posted, as opposed to an attack on them. IMO, this is the type of behavior we should encourage (sans sarcasm etc.), the OP was willing to place himself out there for judgement. It’s much more commendable than many other forum warriors out there.

First off thanks for the feed back. I agree with most of it. However, I’m a little disappointed that some of you couldn’t pick up on the [/sarcasm] tag and the fact that I put a question mark in the subject line. Perhaps your thread awareness needs some work. xD

I don’t think I’m a great player, I have watched the top tier player play and there is a noticeable difference between how they play and how I play. There is a long laundry list of things I could have done better. Even though the final score was 501 to 308, (an unwinnable blow to some) if I would have made a few plays we would have had a lot closer match and possible won. If I were replaced with a druid that was legit high gold or plat my team most likely would have won.

However, I did post the video because I think it is a poster child for what people are QQing about. One could make the case that I lost because the other team had a duo, they had a better comp, and in general my team was bad compared to the other team.

• My team got 3 kills total.
• I got credit for all 3.
• My team had 21 total deaths.
• I got the only two resurrections on our team.
• I lead the team in every stat but total damage and defense.

If you want to be a defeatist, the match maker gave me an unwinnable match and I should have afk’d 5 minutes into the match. If you want to take a more positive view, I could clean up a few things in my game play and be able to turn the match.

Faux Play.6104:

First off thanks for the feed back. I agree with most of it. However, I’m a little disappointed that some of you couldn’t pick up on the [/sarcasm] tag and the fact that I put a question mark in the subject line. Perhaps your thread awareness needs some work. xD

I don’t think I’m a great player, I have watched the top tier player play and there is a noticeable difference between how they play and how I play. There is a long laundry list of things I could have done better. Even though the final score was 501 to 308, (an unwinnable blow to some) if I would have made a few plays we would have had a lot closer match and possible won. If I were replaced with a druid that was legit high gold or plat my team most likely would have won.

However, I did post the video because I think it is a poster child for what people are QQing about. One could make the case that I lost because the other team had a duo, they had a better comp, and in general my team was bad compared to the other team.

• My team got 3 kills total.
• I got credit for all 3.
• My team had 21 total deaths.
• I got the only two resurrections on our team.
• I lead the team in every stat but total damage and defense.

If you want to be a defeatist, the match maker gave me an unwinnable match and I should have afk’d 5 minutes into the match. If you want to take a more positive view, I could clean up a few things in my game play and be able to turn the match.

The stats don’t mean anything in this regard. You guys were all terrible. Your stats might be inflated because everyone is bad. I have no idea how you reached gold. Seriously.

Yes I get your sarcasm but you posted a thread before that an average player can reach gold.

The answer is YES AT THIS TIME BECAUSE EVERYONE GOOD GOT OUT OF GOLD ALREADY. So this is basically bronze vs bronze/silver with a few outliers in gold division.

StickerHappy.8052:

Faux Play.6104:

First off thanks for the feed back. I agree with most of it. However, I’m a little disappointed that some of you couldn’t pick up on the [/sarcasm] tag and the fact that I put a question mark in the subject line. Perhaps your thread awareness needs some work. xD

I don’t think I’m a great player, I have watched the top tier player play and there is a noticeable difference between how they play and how I play. There is a long laundry list of things I could have done better. Even though the final score was 501 to 308, (an unwinnable blow to some) if I would have made a few plays we would have had a lot closer match and possible won. If I were replaced with a druid that was legit high gold or plat my team most likely would have won.

However, I did post the video because I think it is a poster child for what people are QQing about. One could make the case that I lost because the other team had a duo, they had a better comp, and in general my team was bad compared to the other team.

• My team got 3 kills total.
• I got credit for all 3.
• My team had 21 total deaths.
• I got the only two resurrections on our team.
• I lead the team in every stat but total damage and defense.

If you want to be a defeatist, the match maker gave me an unwinnable match and I should have afk’d 5 minutes into the match. If you want to take a more positive view, I could clean up a few things in my game play and be able to turn the match.

The stats don’t mean anything in this regard. You guys were all terrible. Your stats might be inflated because everyone is bad. I have no idea how you reached gold. Seriously.

Yes I get your sarcasm but you posted a thread before that an average player can reach gold.

The answer is YES AT THIS TIME BECAUSE EVERYONE GOOD GOT OUT OF GOLD ALREADY. So this is basically bronze vs bronze/silver with a few outliers in gold division.

Judging by the fact that you are shocked a player of my level was in gold (NA) most of the season and is able to get back into it proves my point. You don’t need to be Helseth to get out of bronze or sliver. In fact you can be so mechanically bad that, that if a competent player views your game play they have the same reaction as people seeing 2 girls one cup for the first time.

However, the forum is flooded with people QQing about how the matchmaker is out to get them and they can’t carry 4 people. Someone with that attitude could easily look at the stat sheet for my match and say they aren’t at fault and blame the loss on their team. However, if you look at this thread, nearly everyone seemed to think my play was a major contributor to the loss.

Faux Play.6104:

StickerHappy.8052:

Faux Play.6104:

First off thanks for the feed back. I agree with most of it. However, I’m a little disappointed that some of you couldn’t pick up on the [/sarcasm] tag and the fact that I put a question mark in the subject line. Perhaps your thread awareness needs some work. xD

I don’t think I’m a great player, I have watched the top tier player play and there is a noticeable difference between how they play and how I play. There is a long laundry list of things I could have done better. Even though the final score was 501 to 308, (an unwinnable blow to some) if I would have made a few plays we would have had a lot closer match and possible won. If I were replaced with a druid that was legit high gold or plat my team most likely would have won.

However, I did post the video because I think it is a poster child for what people are QQing about. One could make the case that I lost because the other team had a duo, they had a better comp, and in general my team was bad compared to the other team.

• My team got 3 kills total.
• I got credit for all 3.
• My team had 21 total deaths.
• I got the only two resurrections on our team.
• I lead the team in every stat but total damage and defense.

If you want to be a defeatist, the match maker gave me an unwinnable match and I should have afk’d 5 minutes into the match. If you want to take a more positive view, I could clean up a few things in my game play and be able to turn the match.

The stats don’t mean anything in this regard. You guys were all terrible. Your stats might be inflated because everyone is bad. I have no idea how you reached gold. Seriously.

Yes I get your sarcasm but you posted a thread before that an average player can reach gold.

The answer is YES AT THIS TIME BECAUSE EVERYONE GOOD GOT OUT OF GOLD ALREADY. So this is basically bronze vs bronze/silver with a few outliers in gold division.

Judging by the fact that you are shocked a player of my level was in gold (NA) most of the season and is able to get back into it proves my point. You don’t need to be Helseth to get out of bronze or sliver. In fact you can be so mechanically bad that, that if a competent player views your game play they have the same reaction as people seeing 2 girls one cup for the first time.

However, the forum is flooded with people QQing about how the matchmaker is out to get them and they can’t carry 4 people. Someone with that attitude could easily look at the stat sheet for my match and say they aren’t at fault and blame the loss on their team. However, if you look at this thread, nearly everyone seemed to think my play was a major contributor to the loss.

Oh yes. Let us get this straight, you will not get to gold if all of us started at bronze. As long as the skilled players are there to keep you in check.

YOU DO NEED APPROPRIATE SKILL TO GET OUT OF DIVISIONS It just doesn’t look like it because there is no competition anymore there.

So here is the thing, this gives you a false impression that you are progressing just because there is no one to keep you in check for that. Now, let’s say gold is the top division, your argument is that you will stay in bronze am I correct?

Which ultimately leads to one answer The need to get better to progress.

If you do not see this as an absolute truth, take in my example above. Gold is the top division, if you do not get better, you will be stuck in bronze.

StickerHappy.8052:

Faux Play.6104:

StickerHappy.8052:

Faux Play.6104:

First off thanks for the feed back. I agree with most of it. However, I’m a little disappointed that some of you couldn’t pick up on the [/sarcasm] tag and the fact that I put a question mark in the subject line. Perhaps your thread awareness needs some work. xD

I don’t think I’m a great player, I have watched the top tier player play and there is a noticeable difference between how they play and how I play. There is a long laundry list of things I could have done better. Even though the final score was 501 to 308, (an unwinnable blow to some) if I would have made a few plays we would have had a lot closer match and possible won. If I were replaced with a druid that was legit high gold or plat my team most likely would have won.

However, I did post the video because I think it is a poster child for what people are QQing about. One could make the case that I lost because the other team had a duo, they had a better comp, and in general my team was bad compared to the other team.

• My team got 3 kills total.
• I got credit for all 3.
• My team had 21 total deaths.
• I got the only two resurrections on our team.
• I lead the team in every stat but total damage and defense.

If you want to be a defeatist, the match maker gave me an unwinnable match and I should have afk’d 5 minutes into the match. If you want to take a more positive view, I could clean up a few things in my game play and be able to turn the match.

The stats don’t mean anything in this regard. You guys were all terrible. Your stats might be inflated because everyone is bad. I have no idea how you reached gold. Seriously.

Yes I get your sarcasm but you posted a thread before that an average player can reach gold.

The answer is YES AT THIS TIME BECAUSE EVERYONE GOOD GOT OUT OF GOLD ALREADY. So this is basically bronze vs bronze/silver with a few outliers in gold division.

Judging by the fact that you are shocked a player of my level was in gold (NA) most of the season and is able to get back into it proves my point. You don’t need to be Helseth to get out of bronze or sliver. In fact you can be so mechanically bad that, that if a competent player views your game play they have the same reaction as people seeing 2 girls one cup for the first time.

However, the forum is flooded with people QQing about how the matchmaker is out to get them and they can’t carry 4 people. Someone with that attitude could easily look at the stat sheet for my match and say they aren’t at fault and blame the loss on their team. However, if you look at this thread, nearly everyone seemed to think my play was a major contributor to the loss.

Oh yes. Let us get this straight, you will not get to gold if all of us started at bronze. As long as the skilled players are there to keep you in check.

YOU DO NEED APPROPRIATE SKILL TO GET OUT OF DIVISIONS It just doesn’t look like it because there is no competition anymore there.

So here is the thing, this gives you a false impression that you are progressing just because there is no one to keep you in check for that. Now, let’s say gold is the top division, your argument is that you will stay in bronze am I correct?

Which ultimately leads to one answer The need to get better.

If you do not see this as an absolute truth, take in my example above. Gold is the top division, if you do not get better, you will be stuck in bronze.

If the ladder had the same tiers as we have now I would get there at a slower rate than the better players but I wouldn’t be stuck in bronze. There is plenty of room for me to get better so if I work at it I can improve.

Faux Play.6104:

First off thanks for the feed back. I agree with most of it. However, I’m a little disappointed that some of you couldn’t pick up on the [/sarcasm] tag and the fact that I put a question mark in the subject line. Perhaps your thread awareness needs some work. xD

Unfortunately this is just a part of human nature. Rarely will you see someone who tries to rise above the basic animal behavioral patterns. Seems to me that the guy you are having back-and-forth also misses the mark somewhat.

I, for what it’s worth, would reiterate what alemfi.5107 said and also add a thank you for not being another knee-jerk reactionary, which are apparently not exclusive to the “elo hell” camp, and also helping us disperse this false narrative and self-victimisation (even if your efforts are somewhat muddled through no fault of your own).

I don’t really care if this was sarcasm or not. But a video of gameplay in gold was posted and it was pretty…unbelievable.

Is that REALLY the skill level of the average Gold player? Like, this is legitimately shocking. I want to see more Gold player level videos posted to confirm. And if that’s the level in gold, wtf is silver and bronze?

If OP does want to improve:

1. Learn to swap pets for quickness and learn to use quickness in conjunction with other skills. Did you know your heal shares boons between you and your pet?!?! You can stack boons on yourself, especially after a pet swap! Did you know your sword autos give might to your pet? Golly gee, I wonder what you could do with that if you healed after. Like, did you know you have minor traits in Nature Magic that increase boons on you and your pet?
2. Learn to use pets. If you can’t remember to toggle them to attack, then just take them off passive and let AI handle it. I like the part where you suddenly remembered you had a pet halfway through the match and you were losing by then. A druid who can’t use a pet is only .5 of a player. And do you know that your smokescale gets might for each attack of their smokeassault? Do you know how much damage a bristleback can unload if it’s stacked up on might? And they can provide a lot of bleed damage? Did you know Strength of the Pack gives more might when you and your pet attack? Like, a full Bristleback unload combined with your elite means more might and more damage?
3. Learn to use sword 2 for mobility. Please. Stop running like a pleb.
4. Learn to use CA more…intelligently.

Focus on those in that order and you gameplay should be improved significantly.

Other things like, stop freaking out when you get pressured and popping every single skill on your utility bar, learn how to help your team out with heals and stealth peels, knowing when to stomp and cleave, learn when to dodge attacks that actually matter, learning how to rotate to the right matchups, etc. Those are stuff you should be figuring out yourself.

The match was winnable. The large difference in score is due to Temple’s snowbally mechanics with the buffs. Losing a team fight has a much larger consequence on that map, and you guy’s could’ve won those teamfights. Your team was not significantly worse than the other, and all your gripping about scores or whatever means nothing. You just tagged more dead guys than the rest of your team.

I don’t mean to sound rude, but frankly, OP, I don’t think anything is keeping you down, and more appropriately it’s players who play like this that are the cause of dissent as to why some people are held down in the silver/gold tiers. Granted, none of you seemed to play particularly well.

I’m going to have to just suggest you do some research on general PvP map awareness and in general look for play improvements on the ranger/druid. There were a huge number of mistakes made in the video in respects to playing the profession alone that I just really can’t begin to break down them all. I highly suggest you post the gameplay in the ranger section and get some high-quality feedback from other ranger mains. While I can point out mistakes and maybe make some suggestions, I can’t guarantee that the suggestions I make will be optimal enough to work into the higher divisions of PvP since I rarely play ranger. You’ll be able to pick these up, as well as the more subtle nuances to the profession, elsewhere.

In all reality, though, you’re probably a little bit above where you belong.

DeceiverX.8361:

I highly suggest you post the gameplay in the ranger section and get some high-quality feedback from other ranger mains.

Please don’t. There are only like 3 rangers worth listening to that frequent the ranger subforum. The IQ of the entire population of ranger PvPers has tanked ever since Eurantien left. Now it’s filled with 3 decent guys and a whole host of crybaby whiners who sit around complaining about how unviable and useless rangers are and how the devs hate the class. And morons who want to get rid of pets because they can’t be kitten d to learn how it works.

Vicky.4563:

The match was winnable. The large difference in score is due to Temple’s snowbally mechanics with the buffs. Losing a team fight has a much larger consequence on that map, and you guy’s could’ve won those teamfights. Your team was not significantly worse than the other, and all your gripping about scores or whatever means nothing. You just tagged more dead guys than the rest of your team.

Not sure why you think I’m griping. I just stated the stats from the match. I was just trying to state both sides of the argument.
1) I didn’t play well enough to win and the loss was my fault.
2) My team wasn’t good enough for me to win.

You hear the argument between the two sides all the time on the forums. I intentionally posted a video of me losing where if you just look at the end game stats it looked like I played well, but if you watch the match, there was plenty that could have been done by me to turn it.

Vicky.4563:

DeceiverX.8361:

I highly suggest you post the gameplay in the ranger section and get some high-quality feedback from other ranger mains.

Please don’t. There are only like 3 rangers worth listening to that frequent the ranger subforum. The IQ of the entire population of ranger PvPers has tanked ever since Eurantien left. Now it’s filled with 3 decent guys and a whole host of crybaby whiners who sit around complaining about how unviable and useless rangers are and how the devs hate the class. And morons who want to get rid of pets because they can’t be kitten d to learn how it works.

>necros ask for nerfs
>mesmers ask to not be nerfed
>thief’s ask for buffs and talk about how unviable they are
>warriors are ready to be unviable again
>revenants think they are unviable
>DH’s ask to not return to back when they were laughed at
>ele’s seem to just want a dps spec
honestly all classes have bad players that are just plain bad in general and show it on the forums. no matter what class they play.

Vicky.4563:

DeceiverX.8361:

I highly suggest you post the gameplay in the ranger section and get some high-quality feedback from other ranger mains.

Please don’t. There are only like 3 rangers worth listening to that frequent the ranger subforum. The IQ of the entire population of ranger PvPers has tanked ever since Eurantien left. Now it’s filled with 3 decent guys and a whole host of crybaby whiners who sit around complaining about how unviable and useless rangers are and how the devs hate the class. And morons who want to get rid of pets because they can’t be kitten d to learn how it works.

I’m pretty sure this is the same for most players in general on all the professions.

There are still good rangers out there, and you’re more likely to get better feedback with substance there than from the PvP subsection which includes both those who think ranger is underpowered and those who think it’s overpowered.

I’m pretty sure the pet hate isn’t about pet viability but the exact opposite. I for one, just hate the very notion of being forced into having a companion on the battlefield because it relinquishes so much control of how you approach combat, and I think the very nature of the pet mechanic in GW2 is poorly-designed and implemented as well. They’re glorified boon cycling/trigger/proc-popping-suicide bots with needlessly high cooldowns and damage mitigation at this point.

please stop using elo people. gw2 uses glicko 2.

I know you’re taking a beating in this thread, so I’ll give you some positive feedback. Most people wouldn’t have the courag to post videos of games they lost. Hindsight always makes your errors and play mistakes obvious but during a match it’s not that easy.

There’s lots of things to improve on and despite the vitriol, these guys have offered some good advice. Honestly this is probably best way to learn is to be critiqued. You can easily plateau in pvp if you don’t have someone show you the more subtle complexities

Solstace.2514:

I know you’re taking a beating in this thread, so I’ll give you some positive feedback. Most people wouldn’t have the courag to post videos of games they lost. Hindsight always makes your errors and play mistakes obvious but during a match it’s not that easy.

There’s lots of things to improve on and despite the vitriol, these guys have offered some good advice. Honestly this is probably best way to learn is to be critiqued. You can easily plateau in pvp if you don’t have someone show you the more subtle complexities

For a minute there I thought you were going to say I did something right that match :-). On a more serious note, it wouldn’t mind seeing more matches posted.