After the MMR shuffle was released, my team members in solo Q seem to be lacking common sense, some constantly rush far only to get repeatedly killed over and over by the enemy ranger that is just STANDING on the point. Very low priority is taken into the defence of home-point. Some players just rush far when we need them for the teamfight.
Some even rush for orbs when the enemy has 3 points capped. I only seem to get ONE reasonable player in my team per match. Last game, players were so shuffled around in the map, that a we almost lost a 4v5.
Could this be a bug? Or is the lack of players for Solo Arena so bad and am just unlucky with what I get grouped with. I’ve been loosing ~80% of my games, and dropped from position 30 to ~115 on the LBs.
the bug was before – when you was rank 30 than you had always top team and faced most time low teams
maby you are higher ranked than you should and now it need some time
Did you take the time to read my message, I was complaining about the lack or reasoning my team members had, NOT about loosing LB rank(who the hell cares about that?), my position was only an statement to support the idea that I should not have incompetent players.
the bug was before – when you was rank 30 than you had always top team and faced most time low teams
maby you are higher ranked than you should and now it need some time
Did you take the time to read my message, I was complaining about the lack or reasoning my team members had, NOT about loosing LB rank(who the hell cares about that?), my position was only an statement to support the idea that I should not have incompetent players.
Welcome to the world of the rank 150s and lower. Instead of getting carried by your teams, you now must do the carrying. GG
I don’t believe I’ve been carried much in any Solo Q I’ve played, I always seem to accomplish my role well. Which is burst roamer, I can only accomplish 20% of my teams performance at best (1/5) but the rest can’t seem to be able to do much of their parts.
I feel like I’m forced to switch to warrior meta builds or a bunker just to keep up.
I think burst roamers who were catapulted to the top of the leaderboards (for whatever reason) are now having the MOST frustrating experience now that they are teamed with weak players.
The Alien (condi necro),That Wreckin Crew (Mesmer)
Silentshoes (Thief), Wind of the Woods (condi ranger)
Yes, it’s flawed because you are losing now lol. Look based on A-net’s track record sure there could be a problem somewhere. But if it’s working as it should and it is making two teams out of the ten people selected as close as possible rating wise how can you really complain? I am not going to dismiss anyon’e success under the old system but really there were a ton of free wins built in under the old system because it would just take the top 5 players in queue and stick them together and then after a wait they were matched up against just about anyone including very low ranked players. Give it a chance to work out the kinks. One thing is for sure though the days of the bogus 70% + win percentage is over.
Phaenton Matchmaking will always be a joke ( we hope it won’t) but unfortunalty there will always be fights were you have an ele, and idiot, severely out comp’d, or just bad players. Not much A-net can do to fix those.
Now if you are receving very obviously bad players (new or idiots) vs teams of players you know aren’t then yes its an issue.
:(
Team Radioactive
Crysis, Lil Damage, Ovi, Jindavikk, Guard
Causing cancer all day.
I’ve definitely noticed a lot more players having little to no knowledge of what to do in Solo Q. Things like dying at home point when there are 2-3 enemies there, then streaming into home point 1 at a time and dying over and over.
Also, I’ve noticed many many more 4v5’s and rage quit/dc’s lately. Almost to the point where it seems like every other match has a team that only has 4 people on it.
After the MMR shuffle was released, my team members in solo Q seem to be lacking common sense, some constantly rush far only to get repeatedly killed over and over by the enemy ranger that is just STANDING on the point. Very low priority is taken into the defence of home-point. Some players just rush far when we need them for the teamfight.
Some even rush for orbs when the enemy has 3 points capped. I only seem to get ONE reasonable player in my team per match. Last game, players were so shuffled around in the map, that a we almost lost a 4v5.
Could this be a bug? Or is the lack of players for Solo Arena so bad and am just unlucky with what I get grouped with. I’ve been loosing ~80% of my games, and dropped from position 30 to ~115 on the LBs.
There are at least two factors at play:
—The previous system really did favor high-ranked players and put them together, so it’s natural that we’re noticing a sharp drop in teammate skill
—Very few good players are playing concurrently right now.
Maybe it’s because they’re hoping to get a special reward for playing a match on Nov. 25th (thus ending at the top of the LB for the reset), maybe because balance isn’t great atm, I don’t know.
ok , i just played 1 solo queue here are the results —>
why on earth do i get matched with such newbies at primetime 21:00 ? Arenanet can you explain me why i get matched with people which are rank 1000+ while i am top 50 on leaderboards?
And you could not carry them?
How will you keep your rank from falling? I feel like I am in the same situation. HOW do you carry a weak team?Seriously
The Alien (condi necro),That Wreckin Crew (Mesmer)
Silentshoes (Thief), Wind of the Woods (condi ranger)
After the MMR shuffle was released, my team members in solo Q seem to be lacking common sense, some constantly rush far only to get repeatedly killed over and over by the enemy ranger that is just STANDING on the point. Very low priority is taken into the defence of home-point. Some players just rush far when we need them for the teamfight.
Some even rush for orbs when the enemy has 3 points capped. I only seem to get ONE reasonable player in my team per match. Last game, players were so shuffled around in the map, that a we almost lost a 4v5.
Could this be a bug? Or is the lack of players for Solo Arena so bad and am just unlucky with what I get grouped with. I’ve been loosing ~80% of my games, and dropped from position 30 to ~115 on the LBs.
There are at least two factors at play:
—The previous system really did favor high-ranked players and put them together, so it’s natural that we’re noticing a sharp drop in teammate skill
—Very few good players are playing concurrently right now.
Maybe it’s because they’re hoping to get a special reward for playing a match on Nov. 25th (thus ending at the top of the LB for the reset), maybe because balance isn’t great atm, I don’t know.
Makes alot of sense, I guess I’ll wait for reset, I could probably get my position back the day it resets since lots of good players most likely plan to play that day.
I’ve yet to see an unreasonable reply from you, I’d wish you’d be part of the Anet PvP team! XD
This means that no matter how well your actual skill, the SoloQ will randomly lower your MMR (by forcing you to team with terrible players). And it will do this constantly.
Am I right?
So an MMR can have no meaning when it is constantly being lowered toward the level of the average player currently queuing.
There is only so much ArenaNet can do at this point, They are trying. But when there are no players at your level, you must join the assigned (weak) team…and take the MMR hit.
The Alien (condi necro),That Wreckin Crew (Mesmer)
Silentshoes (Thief), Wind of the Woods (condi ranger)
not sure, seems like hit or miss. I went from 40% rank (which is bullkitten) to 923 in a week of playing. I was getting good teams who knew what they were doing. now today im back below 80% because every single one of my matches except maybe 2 were 4 v 5 or I had obvious nubs who didn’t know how to play at all… turns out their glory rank was below 5 each time.
Had a lvl 1 necro who had 0 points…. I know individual points don’t mean much… but 0 does say something when hes suppose to be a dps player.
oh yeah.. and the rage quitters who quit when your only down by 30 points.
PVP is dead to me.
And its not so much that I’m going for a high rank.. i don’t care about that. It’s the fact that I’m a decent player, but getting matched up with players below my skill level 90% of the time, and the game is no longer fun. Either its totally one sided 500-100 points, or its just frustrating playing with peeps who have no concept of strategy.
I am so glad this thread exists! Don’t get me wrong, being matched with
players outside your league must be a bad experience but that’s how
it was for me the past few days too.
Now i’m playing bunker and secure close most of the time in order for my team
to concentrate on mid but even though I try everything we lose 3 out of 4 matches
and really don’t know why. I’ve got a good understanding of every class and
know what is important in a conquest style game but my team
seems to be composed of mostly bad players who zerg offpoint or lose
even though outnumbering the enemy. (don’t mind the occasional far-rusher who ends up losing the 1v1 anyway…)
I thought it was my fault for not carrying my team hard enough even though there doesn’t seem to be anymore a single person can do.
I feel for you and sincerely hope matchmaking gets better, but seeing as others suffer the same problem is quite reassuring that it’s a flaw in the system
Also i was matched yesterday with edo tensei several times even though i am rank 27
and have about 40 tournaments played and he supposedly is in top 50.
That happened at primetime friday evening! Nobody can tell me there aren’t enough players to compose the matches accordingly. It’s flattering that the system thinks we are of the same skill level but really, those fights are just
a waste of everyones time.
The only advice I can really give to those who want more advanced tactics and strategy in their play is to form a group and play team arena.
We want solo arena to be a bridge from the casual play of hot-joins to the more serious play of team arena. We’re going to continue to improve matchmaking, but playing with less skilled players is likely to always be a possibility in solo arena.
Team arena also has no roster shuffling, so you can play with exactly who you want to.
Server Programmer (sPvP)
Isle of Janthir: Flux, Latch, Aegir
Yeah, it’s pretty stupid right now. Had a match couple of days ago where at start I went as a bunker guard to middle and no one from my team capped our home for few minutes. If playing in top of the ladder isn’t giving you the benefit of being matched with vets on both teams and having a reasonably fair match- what’s the point of going up the ladder?
Yeah, it’s pretty stupid right now. Had a match couple of days ago where at start I went as a bunker guard to middle and no one from my team capped our home for few minutes. If playing in top of the ladder isn’t giving you the benefit of being matched with vets on both teams and having a reasonably fair match- what’s the point of going up the ladder?
An interesting point.
The Alien (condi necro),That Wreckin Crew (Mesmer)
Silentshoes (Thief), Wind of the Woods (condi ranger)
If you want your yolo q LB rank back don’t play for 1 week. Win or lose your rank will go up. Longer you wait higher your rank will go up. Not a joke multiple instances of proof for this.
Team Radioactive
Crysis, Lil Damage, Ovi, Jindavikk, Guard
Causing cancer all day.
There needs to be a separate bridge for those people who have played 500 tourny games to someone who has done 10. Ranks 1-20 in their own little bracket, the rest of us can be paired together. If they farmed hotjoins then make the system require them to have atleast 50-100 tourny games in the first bracket. Or you could make it so that in Hotjoins you can only farm up to a certain rank, say like rank 10. Then in order to increase rank you have to do Tournaments.
I have somewhere around 2000+ tourny games played. I do not want to have to type every game, telling people where to go or to not 1vs2 on far point. It gets old.
There needs to be a separate bridge for those people who have played 500 tourny games to someone who has done 10. Ranks 1-20 in their own little bracket, the rest of us can be paired together.
I don’t think there are enough players actively PvP’ing for that would be viable. You need a huge pool of players in order to segregate them like that while stopping PvP from turning into more of a ghost town than it already is, it would result in even longer queue times.
After the MMR shuffle was released, my team members in solo Q seem to be lacking common sense, some constantly rush far only to get repeatedly killed over and over by the enemy ranger that is just STANDING on the point. Very low priority is taken into the defence of home-point. Some players just rush far when we need them for the teamfight.
Some even rush for orbs when the enemy has 3 points capped. I only seem to get ONE reasonable player in my team per match. Last game, players were so shuffled around in the map, that a we almost lost a 4v5.
Could this be a bug? Or is the lack of players for Solo Arena so bad and am just unlucky with what I get grouped with. I’ve been loosing ~80% of my games, and dropped from position 30 to ~115 on the LBs.
Lol.
(1) You lose 80% of games and only fall from rank 30 to rank 115????- I have won 8 games in a row and only advanced from 82% to 86%.
(2) Unlucky? People rushing home? How about three people capping home together at the start of games?
(3) As far as I can tell that leaderboard rank is an even worse indicator of skill than normal rank. I have had games at around rank 80-90% (where I seem to be stuck at) with two full teams of rank 40-50+ players and everyone playing very well. Then I see some pve dude at like rank 50 on the leaderboards with 12 games or something played.
(4) Now you know what everyone has been complaining about on the forums!
(1) You lose 80% of games and only fall from rank 30 to rank 115????- I have won 8 games in a row and only advanced from 82% to 86%.
(2) Unlucky? People rushing home? How about three people capping home together at the start of games?
(3) As far as I can tell that leaderboard rank is an even worse indicator of skill than normal rank. I have had games at around rank 80-90% (where I seem to be stuck at) with two full teams of rank 40-50+ players and everyone playing very well. Then I see some pve dude at like rank 50 on the leaderboards with 12 games or something played.
(4) Now you know what everyone has been complaining about on the forums!
Your logic as I see it:
I am loosing a lot >>> must mean my teammates are bad >>> but why am I matched with bad people, although I’m really good? >>> must be because matchmaking sucks… yeah… that… makes sense…
(1) You lose 80% of games and only fall from rank 30 to rank 115????- I have won 8 games in a row and only advanced from 82% to 86%.
(2) Unlucky? People rushing home? How about three people capping home together at the start of games?
(3) As far as I can tell that leaderboard rank is an even worse indicator of skill than normal rank. I have had games at around rank 80-90% (where I seem to be stuck at) with two full teams of rank 40-50+ players and everyone playing very well. Then I see some pve dude at like rank 50 on the leaderboards with 12 games or something played.
(4) Now you know what everyone has been complaining about on the forums!
Your logic as I see it:
I am loosing a lot >>> must mean my teammates are bad >>> but why am I matched with bad people, although I’m really good? >>> must be because matchmaking sucks… yeah… that… makes sense…
This has nothing to do with me loosing, I am simply stating that before the change, the players of my team used to often behave appropriately to the situation in order to win, now that the patch went live, the players I usually get in my team seem to know very little on the basics of TPvP, and thus poor decisions are made by them when we require them the most.
I’m saying that this did not happen before the patch, and now that the patch is in place I have to gamble on the performance and composition of my team in order to win. I have NOT stated that the new matchmaking sucked and made this thread in hopes of finding people in a similar position than me.
Now please, if you misunderstood my message, read it again before stating such comments.
The only thing I see here is you comparing your experience with mine, in the ‘’I suffer more’’ fashion. Not a single point is being made other than you stating you have it harder than me for some reason that I do not care. This thread was made to raise awareness of how many people having similar experience to mine.
And then you state that ‘’Now you know what everyone has been complaining about on the forums!’’. What the kitten do you mean!?!
