Isn't MMR supposed to bring us near 50% w/l?

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Posted by: Agemnon.4608

Agemnon.4608

Then how do you explain this garbage:

“Maybe you just suck!”

Okay, then shouldn’t I get paired against others who suck too?

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Posted by: Ruru.1302

Ruru.1302

not pictured: the 75% win ratio you had a few days ago

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Posted by: Highlie.7641

Highlie.7641

um win your next game and it will be 50/50..

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Posted by: Agemnon.4608

Agemnon.4608

Look at the overwhelming stomps. Teams winning by that much shouldn’t be happening that often with an allegedly “fair” matchmaking system. Funny how unranked games tend to have far fewer blowouts from the other side far less often and even has a better win percentage. My win rate is around 43% overall now so reasonably I should be expected to have easier matches to bump the rate back up.

I’ll spell it out for everyone: MMR tanking and smurfs fool the system into thinking certain players are weaker than they are so the system assumes I’ll beat them but their MMR isn’t represented by their skill whereas I keep losing and it never seems to get better.

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Posted by: MithranArkanere.8957

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No. People are exploiting that the MMR can be ‘smurfed’ to get advantage.

That along their broken builds, they can do things like ‘tank’ all the way to the lord in less than 1 minute in stronghold and take it down without anyone being able to do anything, as their broken builds literally have no viable counters.

They know it, they still exploit it, and they know there will be no reprisal for their cheating.

SUGGEST-A-TRON says:
PAY—ONCE—UNLOCKS—ARE—ALWAYS—BETTER.
No exceptions!

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Posted by: Coelho Nat.4697

Coelho Nat.4697

I have 5 wins in 18 matches as Revenant. 2 wins in the last 11 matches.
I am not good, just average as Revenant, but have fought far worse players than me. I am sure that the mmr for this class is completely broken for me. Anyway, if I am complete crap with this class (I am sure am not this bad), why the system keep setting me in the weaker team?

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Posted by: Agemnon.4608

Agemnon.4608

No. People are exploiting that the MMR can be ‘smurfed’ to get advantage.

That along their broken builds, they can do things like ‘tank’ all the way to the lord in less than 1 minute in stronghold and take it down without anyone being able to do anything, as their broken builds literally have no viable counters.

They know it, they still exploit it, and they know there will be no reprisal for their cheating.

That’s stronghold, I’m talking about conquest which clearly isn’t as bad (that’s a scary thought). I don’t even queue stronghold for the reason you mentioned

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Posted by: Galandil.9641

Galandil.9641

That along their broken builds, they can do things like ‘tank’ all the way to the lord in less than 1 minute in stronghold and take it down without anyone being able to do anything, as their broken builds literally have no viable counters.

How is that possible? Genuinely curious.

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Posted by: DaShi.1368

DaShi.1368

No, MMR + leagues is a gift to pro-teams. It’s designed specifically so that they can farm other players. Esports!

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Posted by: azyume.6321

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That along their broken builds, they can do things like ‘tank’ all the way to the lord in less than 1 minute in stronghold and take it down without anyone being able to do anything, as their broken builds literally have no viable counters.

How is that possible? Genuinely curious.

3 bunkers, 1 bruiser and 1 hybrid.

Chronobunker, tempest and druid together. You can have a team of dps only or even necros to try to corrupt their boons and they still stomp pass you due to their insane support sustain combined together.

Stronghold is even more broken than conquest at the moment due to that. The players pushed the fun and variety away from the game mode to ensure they can farm pugs with their premades.

The worse thing is, because of their exploit of lower division player, amber and/or emerald, if their win and your team consists of ruby/diamond, they get 2 pips.

Hey Anet! When a low risk build, aka bunker, have high reward and a high risk build, dps, have low and I’d argue say 0 reward, something is definitely wrong and broken.

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Thief / Mesmer / Elementalist / Warrior / Necromancer / Ranger / Engineer / Revenant
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Posted by: Cynz.9437

Cynz.9437

working as intended
if you have above 50% win rate you get matches where you will lose (unless some unspeakable odds (see crash, dc etc.) will allow you to win match anyway, which will cause the system grant you with impossbly bad teams/or simply remove teammates from your team for next 10 matches)

if you have 50% or lower win rate, you get matches where you have 50% chance to win (which means you still can lose)

i honestly don’t understand why people even bother tanking mmr down when system itself will force you to tank mmr down anyway if you dare to win couple matches; all you need is just to try bit less in matches where you have 50% win chance

All is Vain~
[Teef] guild :>

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Posted by: Jacob.4280

Jacob.4280

So ur basicly saying, that ur joining the match with no interest in winning it. Why would u join in any match then?
Everybody in every match should do their best to win the match. Thus " to try a bit less" has no point in PvP environment.

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Posted by: Cynz.9437

Cynz.9437

So ur basicly saying, that ur joining the match with no interest in winning it. Why would u join in any match then?
Everybody in every match should do their best to win the match. Thus " to try a bit less" has no point in PvP environment.

i just pointed out that people who were intentionally afking at spawn trying to tank down their mmr were silly

the way matchmaking is programmed, it makes sure you tank down mmr anyway, it will force it on you, will shove it down your troat and makes sure you enjoy it (or not); there is no way around it unless you run full premade of top players

the more matches you win, the more you will get punished: you will get absurdly lopsided matches where your entire team either afks, rushes 4 man beast, gets wiped by 1 person from enemy team or… you simply don’t have teammates from begin with (yes that happend to me)

i would say my experience of (closing to) 4500 games across 2 accounts could back up such observation~

All is Vain~
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