Yes, because your average player has all the time in the world to sit around waiting for a match. I don’t want to come across too rudely but a lot of us are adults with lives and limited time to play. We are the majority. You the are the minority the person that has time to plays this game for hours every day and has the time to sit around waiting for 15-20 minutes plus to get one game. Thank god A-net doesn’t actually listen to people like you.
Yes, because your average player has all the time in the world to sit around waiting for a match. I don’t want to come across too rudely but a lot of us are adults with lives and limited time to play. We are the majority. You the are the minority the person that has time to plays this game for hours every day and has the time to sit around waiting for 15-20 minutes plus to get one game. Thank god A-net doesn’t actually listen to people like you.
+1 Correct. The match already takes 10-15 minutes to complete and with current wait time you can get done about 3 an hour (4 if lucky). Lets not double the time and force the majority of the players (people with jobs and/ or school) to be able to only play 4 matches a night…lol. The ONLY people complaining about this is the SoloQ players and again, the minority.
Yes, because your average player has all the time in the world to sit around waiting for a match. I don’t want to come across too rudely but a lot of us are adults with lives and limited time to play. We are the majority. You the are the minority the person that has time to plays this game for hours every day and has the time to sit around waiting for 15-20 minutes plus to get one game. Thank god A-net doesn’t actually listen to people like you.
brannigan,
Are you serious?
You really advocate blowout matches rather than waiting for a challenging matchup?
The Alien (condi necro),That Wreckin Crew (Mesmer)
Silentshoes (Thief), Wind of the Woods (condi ranger)
The ONLY people complaining about this is the SoloQ players and again, the minority.
And the talented, dedicated, high MMR people who do not enjoy shooting “grey mobs”.
They hate it as well.
Only the high-MMR, organized “lawl teams” enjoy a blowout for more than a match or two. They must feel like they are talented or something crushing players who are new or clueless.
And how do you know the solo players are the minority? That’s your opinion.
Maybe Justin can give us some stats on this.
The Alien (condi necro),That Wreckin Crew (Mesmer)
Silentshoes (Thief), Wind of the Woods (condi ranger)
The ONLY people complaining about this is the SoloQ players and again, the minority.
I highly doubt SoloQ’ers are the minority here. The general reasoning for pushing the queues together in the first place was because there’s like, 3 people who are interested in competing as a team in this game.
I’m thinking you super-hardcore-pro team players are the minority on this one. I also find it rather ironic, that those sitting here trying to go on about their “lives” and “jobs” are trying their hand at a higher level of play ( Teams ) which requires by default much more skill, dedication, communication, and more importantly time, to be even remotely competitive.
The ONLY people complaining about this is the SoloQ players and again, the minority.
And the talented, dedicated, high MMR people who do not enjoy shooting “grey mobs”.
They hate it as well.
Only the high-MMR, organized “lawl teams” enjoy a blowout for more than a match or two. They must feel like they are talented or something crushing players who are new or clueless.
And how so yo know the solo players are the minority?
Maybe Justin can give us some stats on this.
Correct we do not enjoy Blowouts on winning either. It has got 10 times better on that end already. The problem is not the system, it is the players. There isn’t enough players in the Q to team up. If it waited until there was a sufficient match up the wait could be 30 minutes +. Eventually the system puts 2 together as close as possible. The ESL teams ALSO stated they don’t want to wait more than 5 minutes for a match…..contradictory if you ask me.
The ONLY people complaining about this is the SoloQ players and again, the minority.
I highly doubt SoloQ’ers are the minority here. The general reasoning for pushing the queues together in the first place was because there’s like, 3 people who are interested in competing as a team in this game.
I’m thinking you super-hardcore-pro team players are the minority on this one. I also find it rather ironic, that those sitting here trying to go on about their “lives” and “jobs” are trying their hand at a higher level of play ( Teams ) which requires by default much more skill, dedication, communication, and more importantly time, to be even remotely competitive.
Whereas in SoloQ, you press a button and go.
I am pretty sure there were more pleople in solo queue than team queue. If there are so many “serious” players around then how is it possible that playing just a few games put you in top 1k? I bet there is less than 200 players with fixed teams around.
1) Try to find a good match for a team for a few minutes.
2) Put anyone against the team after a few minutes.
That’s the problem. Right there.
It’s absolutely obvious.
Make the matcher wait longer. Maybe much longer.
I had a 16 minute queue this morning, I’m not sure what happened to the 8 minute max.
What were you saying about throwing anyone together after a few minutes? The window in which I wait is about 6-10 minutes typically.
Ya I think I was watching MagicToker stream 2 days ago and you guys waited a good 15 minutes or so. I think I then saw you give up again after that match and go unranked. I know the wait sucks n all but isn’t waiting for a better match up good?
They should add 2 options when you queue:
1)fast queue – limited matchmaking, priority on time
2)slow queue -superior matchmaking but taking a bit longer
This way people can decide if they want to wait longer for a better matchup or play as soon as possible.
Everybody happy!
Cons: Given how the devs work this might be a feature in 2020.
They should add 2 options when you queue:
1)fast queue – limited matchmaking, priority on time
2)slow queue -superior matchmaking but taking a bit longer
This way people can decide if they want to wait longer for a better matchup or play as soon as possible.
Everybody happy!
Cons: Given how the devs work this might be a feature in 2020.
+100.
This is the fair way to do it.
The Alien (condi necro),That Wreckin Crew (Mesmer)
Silentshoes (Thief), Wind of the Woods (condi ranger)
They should add 2 options when you queue:
1)fast queue – limited matchmaking, priority on time
2)slow queue -superior matchmaking but taking a bit longer
This way people can decide if they want to wait longer for a better matchup or play as soon as possible.
Everybody happy!
Cons: Given how the devs work this might be a feature in 2020.
I had a 16 minute queue this morning, I’m not sure what happened to the 8 minute max.
What were you saying about throwing anyone together after a few minutes? The window in which I wait is about 6-10 minutes typically.
Willing to bet you didn’t have solo Q’rs qing up to fill your Q. Because seriously who wants to Q in the dead hours of the morning where you are guaranteed to be matched up against a team do to lack of players qing. This is why I quit spvp I can read the signs, I played in the dead hours of the morning daily until this patch ruined matchmaking for off hour players. This patch will only dwindle the pvp population, give it 2 months and Q’s will be terrible again.
They should add 2 options when you queue:
1)fast queue – limited matchmaking, priority on time
2)slow queue -superior matchmaking but taking a bit longer
This way people can decide if they want to wait longer for a better matchup or play as soon as possible.
Everybody happy!
Cons: Given how the devs work this might be a feature in 2020.
Can’t imagine this would work. The queue times for the slow queue would skyrocket due to low population. I have a feeling many times a match will never be found because the majority of players will lean towards the shorter queue. Only real answer to balancing wait time vs quality is number of commited players.
They should add 2 options when you queue:
1)fast queue – limited matchmaking, priority on time
2)slow queue -superior matchmaking but taking a bit longer
This way people can decide if they want to wait longer for a better matchup or play as soon as possible.
Everybody happy!
Cons: Given how the devs work this might be a feature in 2020.
Can’t imagine this would work. The queue times for the slow queue would skyrocket due to low population. I have a feeling many times a match will never be found because the majority of players will lean towards the shorter queue. Only real answer to balancing wait time vs quality is number of commited players.
Exactly. People come on here and complain non stop about the match ups; but in the end, 90% would select faster option after waiting 20 minutes a couple times. That’s just how people are…never satisfied.
I’ll take a blow out game here and there over waiting more than 8 minutes. I play solo. I climbed to the top 25 with a higher than 60% winrate on the first day of this new ladder. I have had about the same amount of close matches as the old system, and only a few landslides and some of those were 4v5s.
But the average players without a team would be playing each other in more balanced matches.
Players are players whether they are solo or in a team. Both solo and Teams alike will select the faster option. Maybe 50-50 as “use longer wait a few times” then get sick of it, or only have so much time left to play; then start jamming in faster Q times. Either way it will be the same thing no matter what. Nothing will have changed. Ask the Abjured if they would rather wait 20-30 minutes for each match or if they would end up selecting “faster” option. I guarantee they won’t say “The wait, all day”.
Yes, because your average player has all the time in the world to sit around waiting for a match. I don’t want to come across too rudely but a lot of us are adults with lives and limited time to play. We are the majority. You the are the minority the person that has time to plays this game for hours every day and has the time to sit around waiting for 15-20 minutes plus to get one game. Thank god A-net doesn’t actually listen to people like you.
brannigan,
Are you serious?
You really advocate blowout matches rather than waiting for a challenging matchup?
Yes, I am dead serious. Is there something hard to understand in what I posted? I am ok waiting a few minutes for the best match up. No more then that. I have an hour or two to play most nights and I am not going to spend half my time waiting for more competitive matches that may or may not exist. You seem to me to be advocating like 15-20 minute waits or possible waiting as long as it takes. Most people do not have that sort of time to waste waiting like that. There is only so much that can be done this game really does not have a large population. It’s the same raft of complaints every time they tweak match making or add something. This is the team version of all the crying about solo queue matchmaking when it was first implemented and when leaderboards were first implemented. To put it in the nutshell there is no perfect solution and I will always want to err in favor of you know actually playing the game not waiting forever.
But, blowout matches where you crush people who do not know what they are doing?
That’s the PvP version of taking your level 80 PvE and questing in level 10 territory. Seems embarrassing to view it as actually, you know, playing sPvP.
we all hate blowouts, first time sure it feels great but after that its just boring. however, idk if i would blame blowouts solely on bad matchmaking. i had a few blowouts last night (in and against my favor), only in 1 of those blowouts was there any kind of premade and that was 2 players on the losing team, the other 8 were solo.
imo most blowouts happen because a bunch of players have NO IDEA how to play the game type. they just run around trying to accumulate as many points as possible thinking that will win the game some how. no amount of time spent matchmaking is going to fix player stupidity. for example, when i see 2 people go home right off the bat i assume its a 3v5 game as the 2 are worthless,especially when both of them leave as soon as its capped.
really though pay attention to your next several matches on how your teammates are playing, you’ll notice alot are very very stupid and unwilling to learn even when you are nice as you can possibly be trying to teach them.
That’s the PvP version of taking your level 80 PvE and questing in level 10 territory. Seems embarrassing to view it as actually, you know, playing sPvP.
ummm how are you supposed to get 100% map completion if you dont quest in lvl 10 areas?
