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Posted by: felivear.1536

felivear.1536

Again, we were hit with a patch that didn’t even mention that we exist, let alone address some of the major concerns for PvP. What I don’t understand is: we all know (sans Jon Peters) that 8% nerf to healing signet will not be enough. Why not put that in there with a patch like this, that way we can prove to the devs for the next month that it isn’t enough.

PvP is the long forgotten step-child of this game and we are clearly treated as such.

I am giving Powerr and Grouch the benefit of the doubt here and accepting their word that this coming patch is as huge and significant as they say. I don’t really doubt their word about its size, my major worry is that all of the people that will soon uncover its many bugs have been left in the dark. I’m sure there will be at least 1 game-breaking feature or bug and when do we get to find this out? On live servers.

What’s the major issue with that? If the major bug turns out to be an SPVP only bug, we can expect to wait 3 months (literally) for a fix. If we get lucky and it spills over into PvE (Mesmer 1 shot bug, for example) then we can get a hotfix that day.

I am so beyond disappointed in this game and I’m not even sure a patch with this much promise can save it for me.

Eh, either way, what do you guys think?

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Posted by: Ezrael.6859

Ezrael.6859

Look for another game coming out in the future.

It’s clear from the languid pace with regards to balancing and general pvp development that this game isn’t going anywhere fast, and it’s not changing for the better any time soon.

Perhaps in 3 years they might have had enough balance patches on 3 month cycles with minuscule alterations to let the pvp reach a decent state.

Warrior get over-buffed with a massive healing buff amongst others and the proposal to fix this is an 8% reduction in a passive heal that would still be good with a 50% reduction.

The mechanics are flawed, the game has too many passive abilities and too many hard counters. Then for Warriors it combines the two together and creates passive abilities that activate as hard counters. Just utter trash mechanics and easymode.

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Posted by: Lupanic.6502

Lupanic.6502

Also do not understand why the devs bring always a big patch instead of small patches. I only hope that this time the meta will not be dominated again for months by 1 class.

Bad for us is, that the patches are untested.

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Posted by: bobomb.5209

bobomb.5209

I don’t understand why you guys haven’t been able to listen to previous posts by the developers. You claim they don’t listen to you but why can’t you listen to them? They posted that they will focus on other aspects of GW2 after the Living Story arc is completed. That means PvP will be changing. I mean honestly they have taken out Glory and specifically stated that they will be implementing a new reward system for PvP. They are blatantly telling you what will happen and you guys can’t be patient for one month or so? It’s not like you are paying a subscription after all.

I for one am looking forward to the focus on PvP that the developers will be bringing. I understand that they are working hard to bring new content to all of their fan base because ArenaNet is NOT some sort of big corporate monster that can do everything that we could ever want if we could only complain enough (though I admit it has worked in the past). They are human beings with limits, not machines.

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Posted by: bobomb.5209

bobomb.5209

Also do not understand why the devs bring always a big patch instead of small patches. I only hope that this time the meta will not be dominated again for months by 1 class.

Bad for us is, that the patches are untested.

I agree with the patches being untested. Dear god ArenaNet needs to give us a PTR. For everything in general really.

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Posted by: felivear.1536

felivear.1536

I don’t understand why you guys haven’t been able to listen to previous posts by the developers. You claim they don’t listen to you but why can’t you listen to them? They posted that they will focus on other aspects of GW2 after the Living Story arc is completed. That means PvP will be changing. I mean honestly they have taken out Glory and specifically stated that they will be implementing a new reward system for PvP. They are blatantly telling you what will happen and you guys can’t be patient for one month or so? It’s not like you are paying a subscription after all.

I for one am looking forward to the focus on PvP that the developers will be bringing. I understand that they are working hard to bring new content to all of their fan base because ArenaNet is NOT some sort of big corporate monster that can do everything that we could ever want if we could only complain enough (though I admit it has worked in the past). They are human beings with limits, not machines.

I have been playing only PvP since head start…so, no, it’s not “just one more month”. For me, it’s been 18.

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Posted by: gesho.9468

gesho.9468

Also do not understand why the devs bring always a big patch instead of small patches. I only hope that this time the meta will not be dominated again for months by 1 class.

Bad for us is, that the patches are untested.

i agree. inc patch is so big, its going to put everything upside down. new stats, sigil changes… it’s like all tuning of past 2 years erased. patches end up being more distortion then tuning.

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Posted by: ahuba.6430

ahuba.6430

I don’t understand why you guys haven’t been able to listen to previous posts by the developers. You claim they don’t listen to you but why can’t you listen to them? They posted that they will focus on other aspects of GW2 after the Living Story arc is completed. That means PvP will be changing. I mean honestly they have taken out Glory and specifically stated that they will be implementing a new reward system for PvP. They are blatantly telling you what will happen and you guys can’t be patient for one month or so? It’s not like you are paying a subscription after all.

I for one am looking forward to the focus on PvP that the developers will be bringing. I understand that they are working hard to bring new content to all of their fan base because ArenaNet is NOT some sort of big corporate monster that can do everything that we could ever want if we could only complain enough (though I admit it has worked in the past). They are human beings with limits, not machines.

lol they have been saying they’ll focus on pvp since January/february last year. I still remember how those were going to be the months where pvp would get great stuff and guess what, 1. We had to wait until march, 2. and all we got was a broken mmr, broken leaderboards and useless custom arenas to support a non existent e sport scene.

Anyway, there’s no point in waiting friend. Just quit, you’re never going to get anything that you are expecting. And even if they work on stuff, they will never deliver a nice and working finished product. Everything they release is kitten: CAs, solo queue, leaderboards, maps, rewards…

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Posted by: azuzephyr.7280

azuzephyr.7280

I don’t understand why you guys haven’t been able to listen to previous posts by the developers. You claim they don’t listen to you but why can’t you listen to them? They posted that they will focus on other aspects of GW2 after the Living Story arc is completed. That means PvP will be changing. I mean honestly they have taken out Glory and specifically stated that they will be implementing a new reward system for PvP. They are blatantly telling you what will happen and you guys can’t be patient for one month or so? It’s not like you are paying a subscription after all.

I for one am looking forward to the focus on PvP that the developers will be bringing. I understand that they are working hard to bring new content to all of their fan base because ArenaNet is NOT some sort of big corporate monster that can do everything that we could ever want if we could only complain enough (though I admit it has worked in the past). They are human beings with limits, not machines.

I have been playing only PvP since head start…so, no, it’s not “just one more month”. For me, it’s been 18.

Exactly, I could have been patient for ‘just one month’ if they listened to people when the warrior patch dropped, here we are now and we will have been putting up with it for nearly a year by the time they get around to reducing by 8% which doesn’t even begin to address the whole situation.

GW2 was not done at launch, but I didn’t care; it was amazing. But the lack of care since then is really souring my opinion of the experience, which for how hyped I was for release – is a feat I didn’t think would be possible. Balance in pvp is not something that can be left unchanged for so long, especially when it is un such as state as it is now. Stop looking at ladders/titles and start looking at the fundamentals.