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Posted by: Naito.5693

Naito.5693

But congrats to PvE players. They’ve got a huge update. The update pvp community’s been waiting for 6 months now.

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Posted by: Adamentalist.3872

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PvP players are cast to the side? – again.

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Posted by: Lordrosicky.5813

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Those poor PvE ers They had to wait a whole month from 1 huge patch to another.

I dont blame the PvP devs. They are good. But Anet as a company doesnt care about PvP imo

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Posted by: wKaJIik.2931

wKaJIik.2931

From this moment i think a lot of Pvp players can stop play Gw2.
Anet dont carry about us at all…. They do nothing to make Pvp better or variety in it.
Only Anet can do is update silly patch that forces people to play 1 map for a week… What will be next……make another map and force us to play for a month?!

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Posted by: Chi Malady.2015

Chi Malady.2015

Those poor PvE ers They had to wait a whole month from 1 huge patch to another.

I dont blame the PvP devs. They are good. But Anet as a company doesnt care about PvP imo

The PvP team is understaffed/funded I’m betting. Even F2P games have more development support.

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Posted by: Slither Shade.4782

Slither Shade.4782

Idk… Anet stays pretty quiet for a long while then a bunch of stuff happens (pve). Take it as a good sign that not much is happening it might mean they are deep in thought.

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Posted by: Raijinn.9065

Raijinn.9065

Those poor PvE ers They had to wait a whole month from 1 huge patch to another.

I dont blame the PvP devs. They are good. But Anet as a company doesnt care about PvP imo

The PvP team is understaffed/funded I’m betting. Even F2P games have more development support.

I truly believe the real reason is because pve is where the money is. Pvp just doesn’t make enough money for them. With the way these large corporations work that could easily be the truth

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Posted by: Volrath.1473

Volrath.1473

Those poor PvE ers They had to wait a whole month from 1 huge patch to another.

I dont blame the PvP devs. They are good. But Anet as a company doesnt care about PvP imo

/sarcasm on
what are you talking about?! this is a esports worthy game!
/sarcasm off

by the time it reaches any from of balance for esports they will have about 12 players + the devs to compete in it.

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Posted by: Fjandi.2516

Fjandi.2516

Lol i don’t even spvp anymore. Actually is really hard to find something fun to do in this game atm.
But guys seems like you have not realized we have a kittening kittenty quaggan backpack!! Ye looks like they found the time to do that.

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Posted by: Oblivion.8307

Oblivion.8307

I’d rather have working content, rather than rushed. buggy content. They do have a deadline of March, so I don’t mind waiting til then.

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Posted by: Volrath.1473

Volrath.1473

i will wait for match as well, just not in (this) game.
The WoW time (when it was the only option) is far passed and there are allot of fun games out there for me to ENJOY instead of frustrating myself in GW2 for no good reason.

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Posted by: Raijinn.9065

Raijinn.9065

Ya with tera going f2p, ESO soon, blade & soul soon, and others, no reason to settle for this stuff anymore

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Posted by: Chi Malady.2015

Chi Malady.2015

Ya with tera going f2p, ESO soon, blade & soul soon, and others, no reason to settle for this stuff anymore

Those are all PvE games though. Tera doesn’t have a dedicated PvP mode, and ESO has basically been confirmed to have no small-scale PvP either (just WvW). I don’t know what Blade and Soul is, but I’m going to go out on a limb and say that it won’t have proper PvP either.

I’m currently stuck playing Dota 2, which I find pretty boring but it’s the only half-competent PvP game out there right now. I would love it if Tera or ESO had small-scale PvP without the gear grind because the gameplay in those games is top-notch.

Some developer needs to go out there and create a new type of PvP game. Right now, there are really only two options: Dota 2 and LoL (which are basically the same game). I’d love a game with the gameplay mechanics of GW2, Tera, or ESO but no PvE to drag it down. You would think that with 20 million players in LoL that publishers would see the potential of a PvP game, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. All we get is PvE game after PvE game.

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Posted by: ErraticFaith.9142

ErraticFaith.9142

Personally probably going back to aion when 4.0 goes live. Elder scrolls mmo ‘might’ be good, mostly a pvper but I like TES games so :p

Until gw2 pvp steps up, it feels quite hopeless (ya thats my opinion blah) still, is it the next swtor? or are they actually ahead of this game now? (saw a few people had left to go there lol!) I’ll keep an eye on gw2 though maybe :/ dont have many hours with uni.

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Posted by: Ironcloud.3892

Ironcloud.3892

They’ve stated multiple times that the January release was going to be a relatively small update… February is the apparently “BIG” PvP update.

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Posted by: butch.8136

butch.8136

We knew january was going to be small. Just a "lill’ outrage for the tickets thing. :p That got fixed.

Now let’s hope they did this week with a reason as in testing it for implementation in the future (with the needed tweaks and stuff ofc).

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Posted by: WaffylesYay.9735

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From this moment i think a lot of Pvp players can stop play Gw2.
Anet dont carry about us at all…. They do nothing to make Pvp better or variety in it.
Only Anet can do is update silly patch that forces people to play 1 map for a week… What will be next……make another map and force us to play for a month?!

No, obviously this is a test on a large scale. Not a “feature” or “event”

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Posted by: Arheundel.6451

Arheundel.6451

i will wait for match as well, just not in (this) game.
The WoW time (when it was the only option) is far passed and there are allot of fun games out there for me to ENJOY instead of frustrating myself in GW2 for no good reason.

You’ve said the same thing on 4 different threads..but you’re still here, guess you like the game more than me ^^

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Posted by: Khenzy.9348

Khenzy.9348

I switched from sPvP to WvW 2 months or so ago, I left it at rank 39. But now they are starting to implement this ascended gear completely ignoring half of the sets (Cleric, Knight, Carrion, Rampager, etc.), effectively destroying my build. I stepped away from a stale boring meta PvP mode with an overdemanding entry learning curve to be competitive, to a more relaxed flexible and slightly less competitive scene, yet I’m finding other kinds of equially worse barriers, it’s also a place that suffers from balance issues. You complain about Thieves with 60% crit damage and 3100 attck power here? Try fighting one with 110% crit. damage and 3600 attack power with the kittenty culling.

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Posted by: Volrath.1473

Volrath.1473

i will wait for match as well, just not in (this) game.
The WoW time (when it was the only option) is far passed and there are allot of fun games out there for me to ENJOY instead of frustrating myself in GW2 for no good reason.

You’ve said the same thing on 4 different threads..but you’re still here, guess you like the game more than me ^^

Yes I do like the game and that’s why I’m so annoyed!
Only one of my friends still loges in on rare occasions, I have seen 2 of the guilds I was in desapear and my friends list is a an abandoned graveyard .

The pvp experience is boring and linear not to mention the bunker fest that tournaments are due to the single pvp mode available. It was acceptable for a wild but now it’s just… Gah

So yea I’m very annoyed and yah I’m rage quitting gw2 and joining my friends on a real esport pvp game!

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Posted by: Cogbyrn.7283

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@Chi Malady: The closest you’ll get at this point is probably Forge. I’d be playing that more, but there’s no 2H Greatsword-wielding class, and I love me some aesthetic.

At any rate, considering how little the patch seemed to impact, I’m surprised the OP staked the claim that NOW the game is bad. Also, Chi already covered the threats of leaving for new games like TERA, but specifically for TERA, all I remember is an obnoxious gear grind that was the prime influence in fights, as well as Sorc sleep/fireball combos that required anticipation, or you lost. Another example of a promising game that made a bunch of decisions that I personally find insane.

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Posted by: Arheundel.6451

Arheundel.6451

I switched from sPvP to WvW 2 months or so ago, I left it at rank 39. But now they are starting to implement this ascended gear completely ignoring half of the sets (Cleric, Knight, Carrion, Rampager, etc.), effectively destroying my build. I stepped away from a stale boring meta PvP mode with an overdemanding entry learning curve to be competitive, to a more relaxed flexible and slightly less competitive scene, yet I’m finding other kinds of equially worse barriers, it’s also a place that suffers from balance issues. You complain about Thieves with 60% crit damage and 3100 attck power here? Try fighting one with 110% crit. damage and 3600 attack power with the kittenty culling.

Well accordingly to thieves, only bad players can’t dodge invisible enemies and you MUST have enough toughness/block or protection to counter their spike which can bring you down to 10% HP in 1.5s, of course this because thieves are extremely squishy as berseker amulet doesn’t grant toughness and they MUST put all traits in dmg/precision therefore they’re justified on the other hand you are not allowed to effectively survive their spike dmg, too much toughness and you’re OP/unkillable.

If I use a macro which involve 3 buttons max, you the target MUST die because I’m a thief, I use berseker amulet and I’m squishy because of it, try to go full zerker yourself if you complain so much about thieves, what? no stealth? Then you’re a free kill of course, I’m telling you it’s extremely hard to go stealth and press F1 2-2-2-2-2…3, after every game session I need to put my hands in iced water, to press that macro button over and over again it’s extremely tiring.

And remember….“Thief is the only class in this game which require skills”

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Posted by: Arheundel.6451

Arheundel.6451

i will wait for match as well, just not in (this) game.
The WoW time (when it was the only option) is far passed and there are allot of fun games out there for me to ENJOY instead of frustrating myself in GW2 for no good reason.

You’ve said the same thing on 4 different threads..but you’re still here, guess you like the game more than me ^^

Yes I do like the game and that’s why I’m so annoyed!
Only one of my friends still loges in on rare occasions, I have seen 2 of the guilds I was in desapear and my friends list is a an abandoned graveyard .

The pvp experience is boring and linear not to mention the bunker fest that tournaments are due to the single pvp mode available. It was acceptable for a wild but now it’s just… Gah

So yea I’m very annoyed and yah I’m rage quitting gw2 and joining my friends on a real esport pvp game!

I don’t find the PvP experience boring at all, especially because I haven’t played all 8 profession yet, no yet reached r50 ( I want that flaming armor, 5 ranks to go XD), no won enough paid tournament yet, no reached the reaper title yet and more reasons.

There is plenty of fun in this game…but of course that depends on your idea of fun

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Posted by: Raijinn.9065

Raijinn.9065

Ya with tera going f2p, ESO soon, blade & soul soon, and others, no reason to settle for this stuff anymore

Those are all PvE games though. Tera doesn’t have a dedicated PvP mode, and ESO has basically been confirmed to have no small-scale PvP either (just WvW). I don’t know what Blade and Soul is, but I’m going to go out on a limb and say that it won’t have proper PvP either.

I’m currently stuck playing Dota 2, which I find pretty boring but it’s the only half-competent PvP game out there right now. I would love it if Tera or ESO had small-scale PvP without the gear grind because the gameplay in those games is top-notch.

Some developer needs to go out there and create a new type of PvP game. Right now, there are really only two options: Dota 2 and LoL (which are basically the same game). I’d love a game with the gameplay mechanics of GW2, Tera, or ESO but no PvE to drag it down. You would think that with 20 million players in LoL that publishers would see the potential of a PvP game, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. All we get is PvE game after PvE game.

Tera has open world pvp, 15v15 battlegrounds, getting 3v3 arenas this month, and they’re adding factions, housing, siege battles, actual faction/guild wars, and way more this year. Look on YouTube for blade and soul and you will love it if you like tera, they’d also have pvp in it. Blade and soul comes out in a few months I believe. ESO I just mentioned cuz I know it’s coming out soon and I’m gonna give it a try. Never mentioned pvp in my original statement just as games that would be fun

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Posted by: hooma.9642

hooma.9642

Those poor PvE ers They had to wait a whole month from 1 huge patch to another.

I dont blame the PvP devs. They are good. But Anet as a company doesnt care about PvP imo

The PvP team is understaffed/funded I’m betting. Even F2P games have more development support.

i think so 2. but the funny part is F2P games are free and dont cost money to get the possibility to spend i mean the forcing to spend money.

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Posted by: hooma.9642

hooma.9642

They’ve stated multiple times that the January release was going to be a relatively small update… February is the apparently “BIG” PvP update.

small means only bugfixes and no balancing? interesting. so what is then a BIG update? double of bugfixes and balancing of actual patch?

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Posted by: Veltoss.9135

Veltoss.9135

I see the sPvP/tPvP players feel just as awful as the WvW players do.. looks like GW2 has become only about the PvE. :[

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Posted by: Klassic.8057

Klassic.8057

GW2 still has some potential.. they just have to execute it properly, it’s not the end yet.

As for Tera lol nobody has the time to grind 20 hours a day just to stay relevant in Pvp.

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Posted by: Empathetic Fighter.2065

Empathetic Fighter.2065

Nice and fast correction of the entry fee. Still it’s not necessary to provoke that rage on this forum. Next time just use a calculator for your updates (3-round = 5tickets, good rewards / 1-round = 3 tickets, no reward).

I’m really excited now for the forthcoming big patch on feb/march. If you can keep up the good output (besides entry fee) I think this game has a second chance to reach a high quality in pvp.

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Posted by: HappinessFactory.4910

HappinessFactory.4910

These posts really irk me, mostly because I feel like its useless complaining. Nothing in this patch has hurt the spvp community in fact these single round paid queues appear to be a big hit.

Also, @ veltoss… I don’t know what the WvW people have to complain about. I WvW all the time now and it’s loads of fun, there are lots of people constantly even on anvil rock. You could complain about culling and server transfers. But only one of those is a problem and I don’t see the second one to even come close to the issues that currently plague the spvp comminity

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Posted by: MrDude.9681

MrDude.9681

These posts really irk me, mostly because I feel like its useless complaining. Nothing in this patch has hurt the spvp community in fact these single round paid queues appear to be a big hit.

I’d say most of these people didn’t even try out the new pvp matchmaking last night. I think last night was a big step in the right direction, let’s just cross our fingers for that Feb. patch to be an even bigger step.

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Posted by: Miku Lawrence.6329

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Naito is just mad people will farm QP nonstop the whole week.

/love <3

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Posted by: Chris.7653

Chris.7653

Those poor PvE ers They had to wait a whole month from 1 huge patch to another.

I dont blame the PvP devs. They are good. But Anet as a company doesnt care about PvP imo

I think the biggest thing that makes us feel a slap in the face is that during development they bragged about how much pvp meant and all these pvp promises.

What we got 6 months ago and what we have now are so far away from those statements its not even funny.

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Posted by: Bradesco.9621

Bradesco.9621

Chivalry medieval warfare is going to be my main game for while, while sPvP is on BETA.

Gonna play it a lot when it releases.

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Posted by: Naito.5693

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Mods changed the title. How dare they!

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Posted by: Zenith.7301

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Unlike PvE, PvP has a lot to fear from new additions. The more you add to a PvP game, the more balancing troubles you introduce.

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Posted by: hooma.9642

hooma.9642

Unlike PvE, PvP has a lot to fear from new additions. The more you add to a PvP game, the more balancing troubles you introduce.

yeah but u only has the trouble if u balance what anet also dont do regularly.. so nothing new for them at this rate.

and if u say it more trouble u mean its easy now to balance i guess, so i still remeber the last troll updates and that funny dev comments. some monkey can guess what happens if u buff a powerful build but not anet guys it seems.

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Posted by: ryston.7640

ryston.7640

it’s pretty obvious by now that PvP is not and never was a priority for anet. When they said they hope to be a AAA esport, it was false advertisement.

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Posted by: Chris.7653

Chris.7653

it’s pretty obvious by now that PvP is not and never was a priority for anet. When they said they hope to be a AAA esport, it was false advertisement.

This x 1000

They lured a lot of people in with it and then…well you guys know what happened.

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Posted by: Eduardo.4675

Eduardo.4675

Well, to be honest, the only way anet will fix this is to put as much effort into pvp as they put in to moderating… If someone reports soemone in this forums, even in useless threads like this one, the mods imediately actuate and delete the relevant posts. Even in this kinda of useless threads. Instead of deleting the whole thread.

Adapt or die. I never die.

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