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Posted by: Lordrosicky.5813

Lordrosicky.5813

It is inevitable that the leaderboard will be based on teams because it is a game where teams and not individuals compete. So just because it depends what teams you run it doesn’t make the leaderboard any less valid. The players at the top still have to earn their rating.

If you want to achieve a good ranking then follow the steps listed below:

1, Play in a team only – get used to playing with the same people so you coordinate your play and so you all know your tactics and responses to particular situations.

2, Play on teamspeak – teamspeak isn’t really essential imo (if people were aware of their map and ui), but it probably helps in certain cases. There is no reason not to use it and the advantage it provides will benefit you in some close matches.

3, Play with a balanced team – this makes all the difference tbh. Often playing without a bunker or a backpoint defender can be fun but you will probably lose to a balanced team unfortanetly.

4, Play with people on their mains, not alts. Often people get bored of the same class or same build so try stuff out. If you really care about your ranking you should stop others doing this and doing it yourself. Sure you just end up seeming like a kitten to people perhaps but thats the way you have to do it.

5, Try to queue with 5 as often as possible – obviously it is tempting to just queue with 3 or 4 or even solo when you cba to wait for someone. But if you want to get a good ranking then you should probably avoid it. Tbh queuing without 5 is pretty lame since they introduced laurels into pvp.

6, If you cant play with a team try to play with people you know. This isnt always possible so usually it is just worth going to map chat to find someone. However if you really care about your ranking and rating then you should avoid doing this and just wait for “your team” or people you know to come online

So, PLEASE dont kitten and moan about leaderboards anymore. They are a good addition to the game. Even if you dont follow most of the steps above often then leaderboards still add some fun and progression (it has for me at least) which was missing.

If you don’t follow the steps above then dont moan about having a bad ranking. That is life. Get over it and have fun playing the game. It is still fun to work on improving your rating within whatever parameters you have set yourself. For example, say you ONLY solo queue then maybe you want to try and get to the top 200 as your target or something. It is still fun.

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Posted by: Dardamaniac.1295

Dardamaniac.1295

I understand what you say very well and you are right..Still theres a game more succesfull than GW2 out there that has a good solid soloq option…
I can understand that to be at the first 100-200 players you need all the 6 things that you named before but you must understand that there must be some room for us casuals to have more fun too.I dont want to have the 6 things but still i want to play this game and feel that my efforts are rewarded and im getting better

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Posted by: Lordrosicky.5813

Lordrosicky.5813

I understand what you say very well and you are right..Still theres a game more succesfull than GW2 out there that has a good solid soloq option…
I can understand that to be at the first 100-200 players you need all the 6 things that you named before but you must understand that there must be some room for us casuals to have more fun too.I dont want to have the 6 things but still i want to play this game and feel that my efforts are rewarded and im getting better

Well I dont disagree on solo q of course. Just saying its moving in the right direction. And people know the limitations of the system and these things will always happen.

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Posted by: daydream.2938

daydream.2938

I like to solo q. But it does cost me a ton of games. I also sometimes premade, and when im done premading and dragging my mmr way up, i solo q and drag it way back down.
I wish they introduced a proper solo/duo Q. That would address this a lot. Though it would still probably be dominated by ele /guardian. As that’s the easiest class to carry with. Still be nice.

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Posted by: Killthehealersffs.8940

Killthehealersffs.8940

Though it would still probably be dominated by ele /guardian. As that’s the easiest class to carry with.

And in the other hand , we (the Engineers) would knock back them 24/7 from the bases :P

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Posted by: daydream.2938

daydream.2938

Well eventually people would start to manually sort by class. Oh that’s the top engy, that’s the top ranger etc etc. Also Solo Q leaderboards would be interesting in showing class balance issues perhaps. though some classes are obviously fine , but in a way that wouldn’t allow them to carry in solo Q situation. Like Mesmers.

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Posted by: Draedark.8193

Draedark.8193

I don’t I know about the rest of you, but also being a casual tPvP-er (R24 around 50% win/loss ratio) I find it encouraging to not see myself on the top 1000. To me that is an indication of a fairly healthy competitive pvp population.

Would I like to be there of course! But with only running a few matches per day that would seem to be an unrealistic expectation or an indication of a dwindling pvp population.

I also thought that ratings beyond 1000 were going to be made visible in the future and at the least your personal rank showing up somewhere on you hero panel. That way even the more casual end of the spectrum will be able to track their progress.

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Posted by: Kwll.1468

Kwll.1468

I totally disagree with just about everything you say here because it encourages the devs to be lazy. We were promised match making that worked. If it did nothing else would matter. They will eventually cost themselves money if they don’t come up with something better because most people don’t want to do what you are saying all the time just have some chance at an ok rating. Sometimes people just want to log and do games regardless of whether they can get a group together at the time or not and they don’t want to be harshly punished by a bad MMR system when they do. Nobody is saying that somebody that solo q’s a lot should be ranked as high as somebody that groups 99% of time but the current system needs work and I am a firm believer in the phrase “the squeaky wheel gets the grease.”

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Posted by: Dardamaniac.1295

Dardamaniac.1295

OP is telling things from his own point of view and its quite understandable.I said before that theres a game out there that has big success and has a nice solid soloq option..I strongly believe that the soloq is a must right now in every competitive game.Every game is played by thousand of soloqers-casuals and less “pros”-team players.As much as we need the top teams so the top teams need a big casual-soloqers base.
In patch 26 feb,Xeph made a thread and was outrageous about that patch.I asked him if he considering of quiting and he said yes..A day later he said that he reconsider and when i asked him why he said that I will quit if he quits.Ofc was offensive and i didnt answer that kitten but still proved something.First Xeph is having a narcisism problem.Second the top leaderboard dudes must start thinking differently,you are not alone,dont see things from your own point of view,i paid for this game so are you,both customers must be satisfied..

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Posted by: Tenderly.7019

Tenderly.7019

I think that there should be a separate leaderboard that calculates SoloQ only. Without removing the current SoloQ functionality, this would give SoloQuers a way to measure up against a premade and not feel like they have forsaken their ranking in pvp on a leaderboard that’s really meant to calculate team-based play.

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Posted by: Lordrosicky.5813

Lordrosicky.5813

OP is telling things from his own point of view and its quite understandable.I said before that theres a game out there that has big success and has a nice solid soloq option..I strongly believe that the soloq is a must right now in every competitive game.Every game is played by thousand of soloqers-casuals and less “pros”-team players.As much as we need the top teams so the top teams need a big casual-soloqers base.
In patch 26 feb,Xeph made a thread and was outrageous about that patch.I asked him if he considering of quiting and he said yes..A day later he said that he reconsider and when i asked him why he said that I will quit if he quits.Ofc was offensive and i didnt answer that kitten but still proved something.First Xeph is having a narcisism problem.Second the top leaderboard dudes must start thinking differently,you are not alone,dont see things from your own point of view,i paid for this game so are you,both customers must be satisfied..

Not really my point of view. I suck and so does my rating hahaha

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Posted by: pullnointer.1476

pullnointer.1476

ppl need to man up and play in a team kitten

solo que wouldn’t hurt tho

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Posted by: Xeph.4513

Xeph.4513

OP is telling things from his own point of view and its quite understandable.I said before that theres a game out there that has big success and has a nice solid soloq option..I strongly believe that the soloq is a must right now in every competitive game.Every game is played by thousand of soloqers-casuals and less “pros”-team players.As much as we need the top teams so the top teams need a big casual-soloqers base.
In patch 26 feb,Xeph made a thread and was outrageous about that patch.I asked him if he considering of quiting and he said yes..A day later he said that he reconsider and when i asked him why he said that I will quit if he quits.Ofc was offensive and i didnt answer that kitten but still proved something.First Xeph is having a narcisism problem.Second the top leaderboard dudes must start thinking differently,you are not alone,dont see things from your own point of view,i paid for this game so are you,both customers must be satisfied..

Uh sir, I am sorry to say that is an out right lie; but anyways here is a quote from you.

I dont know what happened..When the patch went live i read a nice post from Xeph saying that this patch was a joke.I asked him if he gonna quit this game and he said he will consider it.I always wathced closed at Team Paradigm.Today another member of Team Paradigm,(Phantaram)along with some other (Teldo,Gasmask) almost praised this patch.What happened guys,do you know something that WE dont know?3 more changes in ele and this patch become good in a night?
You used to have my respect now im gonna be more carefull to what you have to say

Where I told you that I was considering leaving the game; you reposted that in another thread addressed to me (https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Thank-you-Xeph/first#post1583919), and here is my reply to that quote above.

“I will never quit on my team, the only time I can assure you will quit is when my team does; we had an internal chat after the patch and came to the decision that we are not going to quit just yet. nothing else influenced me to stay apart from that.”

I don’t understand at what point that I told you I don’t want to quit so you don’t, but then again these are the forums and I suppose people like to make kitten up, so please don’t put words in my mouth.

Thank you.

Team Paradigm.
Xeph.

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Posted by: Dardamaniac.1295

Dardamaniac.1295

“I will never quit on my team, the only time I can assure you will quit is when my team does; we had an internal chat after the patch and came to the decision that we are not going to quit just yet. nothing else influenced me to stay apart from that.”

I don’t understand at what point that I told you I don’t want to quit so you don’t, but then again these are the forums and I suppose people like to make kitten up, so please don’t put words in my mouth.

Thank you.[/quote]

It wasnt I and was my team..for that im sorry…But still why should i quit if your team does?Do you think that you have so much influence on ppl?And yes these are forums but no i dont come here to say random stuff,its a waste of time.And sorry again if you misunderstand something,my english are not perfect.I didnt meant you said that you dont quit cause you dont want me to quit.Just the statement “you quit when my team does” is at least disrespectful for me

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Posted by: Xeph.4513

Xeph.4513

“I will never quit on my team, the only time I can assure you will quit is when my team does; we had an internal chat after the patch and came to the decision that we are not going to quit just yet. nothing else influenced me to stay apart from that.”

I don’t understand at what point that I told you I don’t want to quit so you don’t, but then again these are the forums and I suppose people like to make kitten up, so please don’t put words in my mouth.

Thank you.

It wasnt I and was my team..for that im sorry…But still why should i quit if your team does?Do you think that you have so much influence on ppl?And yes these are forums but no i dont come here to say random stuff,its a waste of time.And sorry again if you misunderstand something,my english are not perfect.I didnt meant you said that you dont quit cause you dont want me to quit.Just the statement “you quit when my team does” is at least disrespectful for me[/quote]

I see where the misunderstanding is, you “I” will quit; I am not as vain as to think people will quit if we do.

Sorry that was a typo from me.

Team Paradigm.
Xeph.

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Posted by: Holy Socks.3195

Holy Socks.3195

Sorry but regardless of whether you queue as solo or a premade matchmaking is still terrible.

You can’t have a reliable ladder when they don’t even match you properly.

Average lobby rank? 40~ Sure why not let’s throw a level 1 warrior onto one of the teams, that’ll surely even out somehow.

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Posted by: Dardamaniac.1295

Dardamaniac.1295

“I will never quit on my team, the only time I can assure you will quit is when my team does; we had an internal chat after the patch and came to the decision that we are not going to quit just yet. nothing else influenced me to stay apart from that.”

I don’t understand at what point that I told you I don’t want to quit so you don’t, but then again these are the forums and I suppose people like to make kitten up, so please don’t put words in my mouth.

Thank you.

It wasnt I and was my team..for that im sorry…But still why should i quit if your team does?Do you think that you have so much influence on ppl?And yes these are forums but no i dont come here to say random stuff,its a waste of time.And sorry again if you misunderstand something,my english are not perfect.I didnt meant you said that you dont quit cause you dont want me to quit.Just the statement “you quit when my team does” is at least disrespectful for me

I see where the misunderstanding is, you “I” will quit; I am not as vain as to think people will quit if we do.

Sorry that was a typo from me.
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Oh!Now i got it too..All this was sadly a misunderstanding.Im sorry too