Leagues = RNG Precursors all over again

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Posted by: ZudetGambeous.9573

ZudetGambeous.9573

This new league system is just the mystic forge RNG for precursors all over again. You just keep throwing in PvP matches and hope you get the right win steak to advance. There is no skill involved, just pure rng and luck. The system guarantees 50% win rate over time so you just have to hope you play enough matches that you get a 5 win streak in a row to advance a tier before RNG throws you into a losing streak.

It it like you learned nothing at all over the past 3 years. We want a way to progress, not throw ourselves at an rng wall.

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Posted by: PowerBottom.5796

PowerBottom.5796

yepp, you can actually get leg with a very low win-rate if you just mass enough games or get lucky with the order in which the wins/losses are in.

Absolutely horrible system.

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Posted by: Bjarkov.9751

Bjarkov.9751

Hmmm, i agree with you when talking solo queue, but if you either have a guild or or at least a friend or two to play with, it really makes a huge difference. Also it gets a lot easier once you get out of amber division, and move up in sapphire and emerald, you can really feel that players are more experienced than in amber league, which also makes solo queue easier and basically more fun to play.

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Posted by: Burn.5401

Burn.5401

Hmmm, i agree with you when talking solo queue, but if you either have a guild or or at least a friend or two to play with, it really makes a huge difference. Also it gets a lot easier once you get out of amber division, and move up in sapphire and emerald, you can really feel that players are more experienced than in amber league, which also makes solo queue easier and basically more fun to play.

Literally everyone has a guaranteed ticket to emerald after one day of games, your post makes zero sense.

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Posted by: PowerBottom.5796

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Hmmm, i agree with you when talking solo queue, but if you either have a guild or or at least a friend or two to play with, it really makes a huge difference. Also it gets a lot easier once you get out of amber division, and move up in sapphire and emerald, you can really feel that players are more experienced than in amber league, which also makes solo queue easier and basically more fun to play.

Well, if you play ruby league or higher with a team, you have pretty long wait-times and then just get eaten alive by ESL-teams…. The whole system punishes honest tryhards and rewards abusers. In lower leagues, it’s probably not as rewarding either, cuz you’ll simply hit a ceiling where the 50% wins will make it impossible to move forwards unless you’re lucky with the order of your wins. It’s a complete mess.

They’ve taken the worst part of multiple games (like parts of the horrible hearthstone league system) and of GW2 pvp (bad MMR, no solo-Q/team-Q distinction) and made it into one steaming pile of…. salt….. Add the worst balance since the release of GW2 and the possibility to heavily abuse the system in multiple ways and you get a very very salty experience.

yes, stuff like this happens, but what I really want, no – need to see, is ANet reacting quickly and severely. And a patch in late january won’t cut it by a long shot.

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Posted by: Forestgreen.7981

Forestgreen.7981

You literally left the best part out. No major balance until Feb 1st. Enjoy.

The joke amulet they put in “Vial of Salt” is for the majority of the PvP and WvWers to put around their necks to remind you that A-Net simply does not care unless its PvE.

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Posted by: PowerBottom.5796

PowerBottom.5796

You literally left the best part out. No major balance until Feb 1st. Enjoy.

The joke amulet they put in “Vial of Salt” is for the majority of the PvP and WvWers to put around their necks to remind you that A-Net simply does not care unless its PvE.

yepp, I’ve already invested like 20 gold into the mats for the vial of salt cuz I thaught I would need it for the Backpiece… Well, imagine how well the name fit when I found out it was for a stupid amulet I’m never gonna use.

Of course it was my fault, but it just fit my feeling that I currently have so well; like ANet was literally making fun of me and slapping me in the face for playing their game I actually enjoy for the most part, although it feels like ANet doesn’t give a flying fart about PvP. :P

YAAAAAY! ^^

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Posted by: OlrunTheBlade.1486

OlrunTheBlade.1486

I mean, you do need it to get the backpiece, so there’s that.

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Posted by: PowerBottom.5796

PowerBottom.5796

I mean, you do need it to get the backpiece, so there’s that.

You can get it, just not as fast…. I’m currently ruby and I’m not planning on going for diamond, I haven’t been as salty about a game in years, possibly decades.

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Posted by: cakeonroof.7385

cakeonroof.7385

Hmmm, i agree with you when talking solo queue, but if you either have a guild or or at least a friend or two to play with, it really makes a huge difference. Also it gets a lot easier once you get out of amber division, and move up in sapphire and emerald, you can really feel that players are more experienced than in amber league, which also makes solo queue easier and basically more fun to play.

Funny you say that about emerald and sapph because a lot of really really good players are stuck there.

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Posted by: Kayberz.5346

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You literally left the best part out. No major balance until Feb 1st. Enjoy.

The joke amulet they put in “Vial of Salt” is for the majority of the PvP and WvWers to put around their necks to remind you that A-Net simply does not care unless its PvE.

yepp, I’ve already invested like 20 gold into the mats for the vial of salt cuz I thaught I would need it for the Backpiece… Well, imagine how well the name fit when I found out it was for a stupid amulet I’m never gonna use.

Of course it was my fault, but it just fit my feeling that I currently have so well; like ANet was literally making fun of me and slapping me in the face for playing their game I actually enjoy for the most part, although it feels like ANet doesn’t give a flying fart about PvP. :P

YAAAAAY! ^^

You actually do need the vial of salt for the backpiece, not the amulet itself but the achievements gained from making it, the win using diff classes achieves dont progress the meta they just progress one specific achievement that does, so to complete all 4 metas you have to make those essences

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Posted by: PowerBottom.5796

PowerBottom.5796

You literally left the best part out. No major balance until Feb 1st. Enjoy.

The joke amulet they put in “Vial of Salt” is for the majority of the PvP and WvWers to put around their necks to remind you that A-Net simply does not care unless its PvE.

yepp, I’ve already invested like 20 gold into the mats for the vial of salt cuz I thaught I would need it for the Backpiece… Well, imagine how well the name fit when I found out it was for a stupid amulet I’m never gonna use.

Of course it was my fault, but it just fit my feeling that I currently have so well; like ANet was literally making fun of me and slapping me in the face for playing their game I actually enjoy for the most part, although it feels like ANet doesn’t give a flying fart about PvP. :P

YAAAAAY! ^^

You actually do need the vial of salt for the backpiece, not the amulet itself but the achievements gained from making it, the win using diff classes achieves dont progress the meta they just progress one specific achievement that does, so to complete all 4 metas you have to make those essences

sweet, day just got a little less salty, I needed that – thx! ^^

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Posted by: Booms.3952

Booms.3952

Hmmm, i agree with you when talking solo queue, but if you either have a guild or or at least a friend or two to play with, it really makes a huge difference. Also it gets a lot easier once you get out of amber division, and move up in sapphire and emerald, you can really feel that players are more experienced than in amber league, which also makes solo queue easier and basically more fun to play.

Funny you say that about emerald and sapph because a lot of really really good players are stuck there.

I honestly doubt that. I duoqd all day yesterday in sapphire and got 16/17 win rate. No good player should be stuck in those ranks atm

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Posted by: ZudetGambeous.9573

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Hmmm, i agree with you when talking solo queue, but if you either have a guild or or at least a friend or two to play with, it really makes a huge difference. Also it gets a lot easier once you get out of amber division, and move up in sapphire and emerald, you can really feel that players are more experienced than in amber league, which also makes solo queue easier and basically more fun to play.

Funny you say that about emerald and sapph because a lot of really really good players are stuck there.

I honestly doubt that. I duoqd all day yesterday in sapphire and got 16/17 win rate. No good player should be stuck in those ranks atm

There must be something weird going on with solo vs duo match making. I went 14/16 loss rate with solo queue the last 2 days. I was playing with people who clearly had no idea what was going on. There was one match when my team ran straight to the enemy gate and 4v3’d the entire match. The other 2 stomped me and then captured all 3 points. No idea how i’m supposed to progress when that is what I have to fight against.

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Posted by: Rap Tiger.1257

Rap Tiger.1257

This new league system is just the mystic forge RNG for precursors all over again. You just keep throwing in PvP matches and hope you get the right win steak to advance. There is no skill involved, just pure rng and luck. The system guarantees 50% win rate over time so you just have to hope you play enough matches that you get a 5 win streak in a row to advance a tier before RNG throws you into a losing streak.

It it like you learned nothing at all over the past 3 years. We want a way to progress, not throw ourselves at an rng wall.

The problem is not the alloy system, but the players.

As luck would? You need to take good players and ability to progress, the power system is very good, the problem may be that MMR was not reset or bad players that existed.