Do you prefer Dash or the dodge that does damage (and smokescreen, stealth attack)
Both are really good so just curious which do you use.
Also I know a lot of thieves use d/p and shortbow, and sb is for fast decaps especially far and rotating and getting back in time to +1) But does anyone ever use P/P as their 2ndary weapon? Just curious because I’ve had a lot of success with this, while unload is decently strong when not wanting to get in the middle of a team fight, but more importantly using skill 2 for immobilize especially against some classes like reaper that have limited mobility. When I use p/p I bring Dash so I can still decap fast still.
Dash all the way. It makes decaps and disengaging so much easier. I also prefer staff because I feel it synergizes well with Dash. Staff is also a lot more powerful. AA is more powerful then daggers. Staff 2 pre casted with steal is simply deadly. Always make sure you land it. Staff 3 I never really use. Staff 4, which was already really good before the buff, is amazing. Blinds the opponent and gives them vulnerability. And then we have vault. Solid gap closer, awesome damage, can be used to run away in a tight situation, great to just spam when you’ve down an opponent and has what I think makes vault so powerful, evade frames.
As for P/P I’d just avoid. In low levels, it’s a noob stomper but againts high level players, it’s easily counter able and predictable. You’re better off with SB and moving to places.
Dash: dmg redux, fast movement around the map and it doesn’t reveal you. SB is kind of mandatory, especially on maps like khylo. PP = HELLO FREE POINTS HERE!
You always want SB and then whatever other weaponset you prefer because of initiative. Unlike some other classes you don’t swap weapons for CD management since they are all tied to initiative. If you want to do p/p just do p/p and SB so you still have the utility from SB.
Dash all the way. It makes decaps and disengaging so much easier. I also prefer staff because I feel it synergizes well with Dash. Staff is also a lot more powerful. AA is more powerful then daggers. Staff 2 pre casted with steal is simply deadly. Always make sure you land it. Staff 3 I never really use. Staff 4, which was already really good before the buff, is amazing. Blinds the opponent and gives them vulnerability. And then we have vault. Solid gap closer, awesome damage, can be used to run away in a tight situation, great to just spam when you’ve down an opponent and has what I think makes vault so powerful, evade frames.
As for P/P I’d just avoid. In low levels, it’s a noob stomper but againts high level players, it’s easily counter able and predictable. You’re better off with SB and moving to places.
Is staff really that good? Its not meta on metabattles (which I only take with a grain of salt, but d/p has been op for a long time now) It does annoy me how they nerfed hs. I heard Pistol 4 is amazing bc of pus impact spam but idk, I would usually smokescreen and auto attack or smokescreen, hs or leap dodge, then backstab. Which takes a lot of setup. So i would be open to a new method.
Also I know thieves are meant to +1 and decap, but are there any classes they are really good at 1v1? (I know necro if before they have life force and u have condi cleanse, and possibly power shiro if not revealed, maybe mes or ele if they are bad?)
Bound can kinda make that difference between a 2 vault KO and a 3 vault KO. It’s kinda like that thing where you upgrade your zealots to have +1 weapons so they kill zerglings in 2 hits instead of 3?
I’ve seen some really good staff spamming thieves in diamond like this dude from a guild called EGG but not a single condi thief has been able to do anything.
Sure they try to run d/d and venom share or whatever but they die instantly and everyone in diamond brings some degree of condi clear and know not to stand on top of the thief doing his death blossom lol.
oh please, not everyone plays condi d/d and that build is a joke in higher divisions
climb out of amber, then complain, ty
I know a guy in diamond with that build and he is still laughing all the way.
That is another example “legendary is casually trashy low” in quality, not “condi dodge thief is amazing”.
Its a gimmick build that like any gimmick beats unprepared players, but anyone skilled beats it – even without any utility adjustments, just rotations and aproach slightly change.
I’ve seen some really good staff spamming thieves in diamond like this dude from a guild called EGG but not a single condi thief has been able to do anything.
Sure they try to run d/d and venom share or whatever but they die instantly and everyone in diamond brings some degree of condi clear and know not to stand on top of the thief doing his death blossom lol.
Oh. That’s my guildie from FEAR. I duo Q with him a lot. You’re talking about Min Scherzo right? He’s ridiculously good at holding far 1 v 2 as a thief. He’s legendary now.
